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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #1562
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,504 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Not sure how people's expectations could be much lower tbh https://twitter.com/christinafinn8/status/1376644324071514130?s=19

    People's expectations are on the ****ing floor, how could they be any lower?

    The government are so out of touch it's actually funny at this stage.


  • #1563
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,100 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Not sure how people's expectations could be much lower tbh https://twitter.com/christinafinn8/status/1376644324071514130?s=19

    Jeez sounds like the government will be caving even more to NPHET

    Like you said expectations are low anyway

    They were never likely to agree to any significant easing of restrictions and the leaks over the past few days are very limited easing of restrictions

    Move from 5km to 10km, construction opening and 3 households meeting outdoor which people are doing anyway


  • #1564
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,471 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    I'd imagine close contacts are probably going.

    A user earlier said that her symptomatic child and close contact went.

    Neither should be going to a walk in centre as per HSE guidelines issued last week

    Symptomatic are still supposed to go via GP, close contacts via contact tracing


  • #1565
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,765 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Lowered?
    How in gods name can they be lowered? Construction and 5k being scrapped can’t be negotiable at this point surely

    I'm finding it very frustrating that I can walk into an off licence and stock up on alcohol but I can't take my son into a shoe shop to get badly needed shoes for his supposed return to school in 2 weeks.

    To thine own self be true



  • #1566
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,302 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Lowered?
    How in gods name can they be lowered? Construction and 5k being scrapped can’t be negotiable at this point surely

    I think if they don't change the 5km then they run the real risk of losing majority of people if they haven't all ready.


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  • #1567
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    gozunda wrote: »
    "202"?

    Today's figures show * 539 new cases * .

    First rule of statistics. Don't take one days data in isolation.
    I don't i always focus on 7 or 14 day averages.

    202 is weekly difference in case numbers and 27,823 more tests was carried out the last 7 days compared to the previous 7 days


  • #1568
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,302 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    It's as expected NPHET basically want nothing, gov want to give something

    https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1376645360899256322?s=19

    Yup would say so.


  • #1569
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,100 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    They'll change the 5km alright

    Political suicide not to do that

    I'm getting worried about them pushing construction reopening out to May


  • #1570
    cjyid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭cjyid


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    It's as expected NPHET basically want nothing, gov want to give something

    https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1376645360899256322?s=19

    Mental. We're gonna be like this until next year if the government don't grow a pair.


  • #1571
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Jeez sounds like the government will be caving even more to NPHET

    Like you said expectations are low anyway

    They were never likely to agree to any significant easing of restrictions and the leaks over the past few days are very limited easing of restrictions

    Move from 5km to 10km, construction opening and 3 households meeting outdoor which people are doing anyway

    Considering the relevant data - the plateaueing of new cases and a rising r rate - what are the indicators for rolling back more restrictions?


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  • #1572
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,023 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    All this talk of opening up, yet cases have not come down. We are trying to follow UK who have vaccinated millions.


  • #1573
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,649 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Jeez sounds like the government will be caving even more to NPHET

    Like you said expectations are low anyway

    They were never likely to agree to any significant easing of restrictions and the leaks over the past few days are very limited easing of restrictions

    Move from 5km to 10km, construction opening and 3 households meeting outdoor which people are doing anyway

    So no change there then for most of the population.


  • #1574
    km79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,528 ✭✭✭✭km79


    gozunda wrote: »
    Considering the relevant data - the plateaueing of new cases and a rising r rate - what are the indicators for rolling back more restrictions?

    People needing homes built to live in ?


  • #1575
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,471 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Why is this being framed as what NPHET want vs what government wants? NPHET are there to advise government, not debate with them.

    Not having a go at you at all, just find the commentary around this weird in general.

    I agree

    They don't help themselves though with their recommendations.

    Except they already know there isn't going to be a major easing

    https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1376649899790450692?s=19


  • #1576
    Str8outtaWuhan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    They'll change the 5km alright

    Political suicide not to do that

    I'm getting worried about them pushing construction reopening out to May

    5.1 km


  • #1577
    NH2013
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭NH2013


    gozunda wrote: »
    Considering the relevant data - the plateaueing of new cases and a rising r rate - what are the indicators for rolling back more restrictions?

    I'd imagine hospital numbers and ICU would have to be a key indicator going forward with vaccinations increasingly covering those likely to end up in hospital, don't know if we're at that point yet, but at some stage that will have to become a bigger indicator of the situation.

    Other indicators could be general compliance with the rules, better to have a set of rule people are prepared to obey, than rules which are probably better at reducing spread but are widely ignored.


  • #1578
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,100 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    gozunda wrote: »
    Considering the relevant data - the plateaueing of new cases and a rising r rate - what are the indicators for rolling back more restrictions?

    See blowitups post above

    Very little change in cases for much more testing

    The more you test the more cases you'll find

    See the pop up centres

    NPHET don't want any changes

    They have no care for the wellbeing of society or how hard the restrictions have been not the effort people have put in

    4 months of not seeing friends, family, partners

    If the government don't give small changes after 4 months of level 5 there's going to be a lot more people not adhering to the restrictions


  • #1579
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    All this talk of opening up, yet cases have not come down. We are trying to follow UK who have vaccinated millions.

    The talk is on minor easing that was meant to get people outdoors more than indoors as the virus spreads the most in the latter. Opening up would be level 3 or lower and would require more of the population vaccinated.


  • #1580
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,713 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Relax the 5km to countywide in counties with incidence rate of less than 100. Kildare, Offaly and Laois went to stay in your county last year at 80 per 100k.

    Why Cork and Kerry deserve the glorified house arrest treatment with incidence rates less than 50 while Offaly is treated the same with incidence rate 10 times as much is beyond me

    Really disappointing that NPHET and the Government aren't being taken on regarding regional discrepancies and why people in Cork and Kerry have to continually suffer due to clear outbreaks in Leinster.


  • #1581
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,450 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Sorry in advance!! NPHET need to fuçk off!!! Who the fuçk is in charge????
    Watching CB there and the journalist it’s so negative so so negative!!!!


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  • #1582
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,828 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Jesus some comedy show on CB live now

    NPHET saying to the Ministers tonight 'if you don't do this then you wont get that'


  • #1583
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Christ Almighty, NPHET want another 6-8 weeks according to a journalist on Claire Byrne. Seriously?!!

    The answer should be a firm no, change our approach and a more targeted approach.

    Not even raising the km limit much by the sounds of it. Feck that.


  • #1584
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Luckily I've had a good sup of wine. Just turned on Claire Byrne. WTAF??!!! Nothing really opening up not even construction!!!


  • #1585
    Messi19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Messi19


    I can't wait for the next general election. NPHET gonna get destroyed at the ballot box


  • #1586
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,377 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    So we can't have hospitality in the summer unless we behave ourselves in the next two months, shower of c**ts


  • #1587
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,100 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    marno21 wrote: »
    Relax the 5km to countywide in counties with incidence rate of less than 100. Kildare, Offaly and Laois went to stay in your county last year at 80 per 100k.

    Why Cork and Kerry deserve the glorified house arrest treatment with incidence rates less than 50 while Offaly is treated the same with incidence rate 10 times as much is beyond me

    Really disappointing that NPHET and the Government aren't being taken on regarding regional discrepancies and why people in Cork and Kerry have to continually suffer due to clear outbreaks in Leinster.

    Very easy to lockdown

    NPHET and the government had no issue with the LOKdown last year

    Coming up with a plan for easing restrictions in regions or counties won't be countenanced as it would require work so they'll stick to blanket restrictions


  • #1588
    Natterjack from Kerry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Natterjack from Kerry


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Lowered?
    How in gods name can they be lowered? Construction and 5k being scrapped can’t be negotiable at this point surely

    Schools to reopen on 12th.
    Golf to reopen on 19th for those within 5km.
    Kids sports training from 26th.
    5km for exercise to be extended to 10km from May 3rd.
    Construction reopening May 3rd.
    Further stages from May 17th to be reviewed and announced w/b 10th.

    Something like that I think. It is cautious, is a plan, which is the main thing people are demanding, and does show some light at the end of the tunnel, without risking the hard work done so far before the vaccine number really rise through April and May.


  • #1589
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »
    Schools to reopen on 12th.
    Golf to reopen on 19th for those within 5km.
    Kids sports training from 26th.
    5km for exercise to be extended to 10km from May 3rd.
    Construction reopening May 3rd.
    Further stages from May 17th to be reviewed and announced w/b 10th.

    Something like that I think. It is cautious, is a plan, which is the main thing people are demanding, and does show some light at the end of the tunnel, without risking the hard work done so far before the vaccine number really rise through April and May.

    10km in May 3rd - absolute joke.


  • #1590
    Corholio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »
    Schools to reopen on 12th.
    Golf to reopen on 19th for those within 5km.
    Kids sports training from 26th.
    5km for exercise to be extended to 10km from May 3rd.
    Construction reopening May 3rd.
    Further stages from May 17th to be reviewed and announced w/b 10th.

    Something like that I think. It is cautious, is a plan, which is the main thing people are demanding, and does show some light at the end of the tunnel, without risking the hard work done so far before the vaccine number really rise through April and May.

    No way will they not increase the 5km limit until May. They will actually do more damage to their 'targets' by doing that. Cases will rise out of sheer frustration.


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  • #1591
    [Deleted User]
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Not sure how people's expectations could be much lower tbh https://twitter.com/christinafinn8/status/1376644324071514130?s=19

    Maybe it means NPHETs expectations need to be lowered......

    or not


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