Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Wombatman · 29-03-2021 07:02PM

Normal One wrote: »

Worst surge ever

Yeah, but schools are closed for Easter :rolleyes:

Always_Running · 29-03-2021 07:02PM

7-day averages in cases and 7 day testing number for every Monday this month.

March 29: cases 573 tests 125,886
March 22: cases 544 tests 98,063
March 15: cases 526 tests 101,564
March 8: cases 487 tests 95,604
March 1: cases 654 tests 111,320

TheDoctor · 29-03-2021 07:08PM

Always_Running wrote: »

7-day averages in cases and 7 day testing number for every Monday this month.

March 29: cases 573 tests 125,886
March 22: cases 544 tests 98,063
March 15: cases 526 tests 101,564
March 8: cases 487 tests 95,604
March 1: cases 654 tests 111,320

So ending March with
-more tests
-less cases
-more vaccinated
-less hospitalised

And the disease is surging.

Very concerning

Jim_Hodge · 29-03-2021 07:21PM

TheDoctor wrote: »

So ending March with
-more tests
-less cases
-more vaccinated
-less hospitalised

And the disease is surging.

Very concerning

I'm not seeing a surge and don't advocate for one but the efforts to play down any suggestion with any waffle is astounding. Talk about using stats to colour an opinion. How about an increase week on week for the past four weeks?

The extremes on this thread have left any discussion utterly pointless.

TheDoctor · 29-03-2021 07:37PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

I'm not seeing a surge and don't advocate for one but the efforts to play down any suggestion with any waffle is astounding. Talk about using stats to colour an opinion. How about an increase week on week for the past four weeks?

The extremes on this thread have left any discussion utterly pointless.

Large increase in tests done = small increase in cases detected.

Nothing other than that has occurred in the last few weeks.

29-03-2021 07:41PM

TheDoctor wrote: »

So ending March with
-more tests
-less cases
-more vaccinated
-less hospitalised

And the disease is surging.

Very concerning

Extremely concerning, very worrying, scary.

manofwisdom · 29-03-2021 07:44PM

Always_Running wrote: »

7-day averages in cases and 7 day testing number for every Monday this month.

March 29: cases 573 tests 125,886
March 22: cases 544 tests 98,063
March 15: cases 526 tests 101,564
March 8: cases 487 tests 95,604
March 1: cases 654 tests 111,320

Some increase in testing from last week.

Another key metric is 7-day positivity average in testing

Today - 3.4%
Last Monday - 4%
15/3 - 3.7%
8/3 - 3.8%
1/3 - 4.3%

Jim_Hodge · 29-03-2021 07:44PM

TheDoctor wrote: »

Large increase in tests done = small increase in cases detected.

Nothing other than that has occurred in the last few weeks.

You know what? I couldn't care less. My point is your 'spin' including less cases leaving March than entering was ignoring week on week increases. You then switch to a reference to positivity rate - a different angle altogether.

As I said, impossible to discuss properly here as the sides are too polarised.

Have a Good night.

TheDoctor · 29-03-2021 07:52PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

You know what? I couldn't care less. My point is your 'spin' including less cases leaving March than entering was ignoring week on week increases. You then switch to a reference to positivity rate - a different angle altogether.

As I said, impossible to discuss properly here as the sides are too polarised.

Have a Good night.

4 factually correct bullet points = spin.

Weird flex but ok.....

Have a good night Mr. Lee

podgeandrodge · 29-03-2021 08:12PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

You know what? I couldn't care less. My point is your 'spin' including less cases leaving March than entering was ignoring week on week increases. You then switch to a reference to positivity rate - a different angle altogether.

As I said, impossible to discuss properly here as the sides are too polarised.

Have a Good night.

In the interests of argument, can you post a few bullets with your 'spin' so that people can see both sides.

Knine · 29-03-2021 08:12PM

TheDoctor wrote: »

Large increase in tests done = small increase in cases detected.

Nothing other than that has occurred in the last few weeks.

The large increase in testing is likely due to the pop up centres

29-03-2021 08:18PM

TheDoctor wrote: »

4 factually correct bullet points = spin.

Weird flex but ok.....

Have a good night Mr. Lee

Selective use of certain facts to paint a particular picture is the very definition of spin.

Another reason for the reduction in the positive rate could be that there is an actual surge in rhinovirus at the moment. This has resulted in far more being sent for testing, but as many of these actually have rhinovirus not Covid, the positive rate falls while the underlying Covid rate remains stable.

No one outside a handful of sensationalist click bait style journalists is claiming it’s a surge however

TheDoctor · 29-03-2021 08:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Selective use of certain facts to paint a particular picture is the very definition of spin.

"Selective" facts such as number of tests, cases, hospitalisations and vaccinations.

29-03-2021 08:29PM

TheDoctor wrote: »

"Selective" facts such as number of tests, cases, hospitalisations and vaccinations.

Selective interpretation then

TheDoctor · 29-03-2021 08:32PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Selective interpretation then

Come back with those goalposts!!!

manofwisdom · 29-03-2021 08:52PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Selective use of certain facts to paint a particular picture is the very definition of spin.

Another reason for the reduction in the positive rate could be that there is an actual surge in rhinovirus at the moment. This has resulted in far more being sent for testing, but as many of these actually have rhinovirus not Covid, the positive rate falls while the underlying Covid rate remains stable.

No one outside a handful of sensationalist click bait style journalists is claiming it’s a surge however

More than a handful of those journalists to be fair.

YFlyer · 29-03-2021 09:42PM

Anyone seen the video of the bunch of crazies having mass?

gozunda · 29-03-2021 09:45PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

In the interests of argument, can you post a few bullets with your 'spin' so that people can see both sides.

• This is the "spin" ...

Average new case numbers have plateaued

• Currently the reproduction number is between 1 and 1.3 which Indicates the rate of infection is on the rise

TheDoctor · 29-03-2021 09:49PM

gozunda wrote: »

• This is the "spin" ...

• Currently the reproduction number is between 1 and 1.3 and Indicates the rate of infection is on the rise

Looks to be trending downwards the last week.

Things are getting better.

Good job everyone!

gozunda · 29-03-2021 09:52PM

TheDoctor wrote: »

Looks to be trending downwards the last week.

Things are getting better.

Good job everyone!

Maybe look at the overall / average number of new cases . So no overall not "not trending downwards"

29-03-2021 09:54PM

gozunda wrote: »

Maybe look at the average number of new cases . So no overall not "not trending downwards"

If you look at everything in context, the extra cases relative to the extra tests is good news.

gozunda · 29-03-2021 09:57PM

11521323 wrote: »

If you look at everything in context, the extra cass relative to the extra tests is good news.

Wha?

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0325/1206166-covid-figures/

Chair of NPHET's Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group Professor Philip Nolan said when all of the virus data is taken into account the situation is either at a very static position or one that’s increasing slowly.

He said the reproduction number is between 1 and 1.3 and he said that the situation with cases is "volatile" and remains "at high risk".

CIARAN_BOYLE · 29-03-2021 09:59PM

Does anyone know if the walk in test centre are doing what they are supposed to do or are they serving as a no appointment test centre to speed up testing for close contacts and people with symptoms.

alexonhisown · 29-03-2021 10:11PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Does anyone know if the walk in test centre are doing what they are supposed to do or are they serving as a no appointment test centre to speed up testing for close contacts and people with symptoms.

Not supposed to go to walk in test centres if you have symptoms, it’s only for asymptomatic people, don’t know if close contacts can go, probably not

PmMeUrDogs · 29-03-2021 10:16PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Does anyone know if the walk in test centre are doing what they are supposed to do or are they serving as a no appointment test centre to speed up testing for close contacts and people with symptoms.

I'd imagine close contacts are probably going.

A user earlier said that her symptomatic child and close contact went.

Eod100 · 29-03-2021 10:21PM

Not sure how people's expectations could be much lower tbh https://twitter.com/christinafinn8/status/1376644324071514130?s=19

blowitupref · 29-03-2021 10:21PM

gozunda wrote: »

Wha?

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0325/1206166-covid-figures/

Would you class 202 more cases from 27,823 extra tests as a volatile situation?

gozunda · 29-03-2021 10:27PM

blowitupref wrote: »

Would you class 202 more cases from 27,823 extra tests as a volatile situation?

"202"?

Today's figures show * 539 new cases * .

First rule of statistics. Don't take one days data in isolation.

bennyl10 · 29-03-2021 10:29PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Not sure how people's expectations could be much lower tbh https://twitter.com/christinafinn8/status/1376644324071514130?s=19

Lowered?
How in gods name can they be lowered? Construction and 5k being scrapped can’t be negotiable at this point surely

stephenjmcd · 29-03-2021 10:30PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Not sure how people's expectations could be much lower tbh https://twitter.com/christinafinn8/status/1376644324071514130?s=19

It's as expected NPHET basically want nothing, gov want to give something

https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1376645360899256322?s=19

Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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