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Biafranlivemat · 28-03-2021 04:34AM

Smee_Again wrote: »

His year on year figures are 3% better than Trump’s.

Biden is showing it’s possible to slow the increase in migrants while also treating them like human beings. That’s leadership.

Trumps biggest mistake was not shipping 1000's of illegals to a safe country, like Ireland. Were they would be treated lovely by the non racist Irish, Right?
I bet the US navy could transport 10,000 illegals every week to Ireland.:D

charlie_says · 28-03-2021 06:10PM

biko wrote: »

Biden made it happen by promising US citizenship to nearly 11 million undocumented people so he needs to visit the border first and foremost and see what incredible magnet he has made his country.

He needs to do something about the refugee cages from the days when he was VP. They are still there, Joe.

No, esto es racista

astrofool · 28-03-2021 06:46PM

Biafranlivemat wrote: »

Do you have any idea of how much money is wasted in the US every year for a half assed "Education"
The wall is a great investment.

Educating primary school kids with parents in the army is a waste?

And a wall that is defeated by an angle grinder or simple ladder is a good investment?

I have some magic beans to sell you.

rossie1977 · 28-03-2021 07:02PM

astrofool wrote: »

Educating primary school kids with parents in the army is a waste?

And a wall that is defeated by an angle grinder or simple ladder is a good investment?

I have some magic beans to sell you.

If only UK built a wall they would never have a problem with immigrants entering the country...oh wait

28-03-2021 07:30PM

Latest polls show that 72% Americans approve of Joe Biden's handling of the pandemic.

https://www.newsweek.com/72-americans-approve-joe-bidens-handling-coronavirus-pandemic-poll-1579320

Considering how many die hard republicans there are who would never admit to approving of anything that a democratic president did, it's safe to say that almost all of the Americans who care capable of independent thinking see it as a overwhelming success.

Eric Cartman · 28-03-2021 07:33PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Latest polls show that 72% Americans approve of Joe Biden's handling of the pandemic.

https://www.newsweek.com/72-americans-approve-joe-bidens-handling-coronavirus-pandemic-poll-1579320

Considering how many die hard republicans there are who would never admit to approving of anything that a democratic president did, it's safe to say that almost all of the Americans who care capable of independent thinking see it as a overwhelming success.

I feel many approve because a lot of rules have been delegated to the states themselves, Floridas version of lockdown looks like Ireland pre covid with a few masks. Its hard not to approve when everyone is seeing every other country with total lockdowns from their local bar or beach and going 'sure it could be worse'

Tell me how · 28-03-2021 07:45PM

biko wrote: »

Biden made it happen by promising US citizenship to nearly 11 million undocumented people so he needs to visit the border first and foremost and see what incredible magnet he has made his country.

He needs to do something about the refugee cages from the days when he was VP. They are still there, Joe.

You really think all these people just magically appeared because Biden said that current undocumented immigrants should have a path to citizenship?

If so, why were there apparently caravans of people moving through the Americas to get to the border for the last several years.

He has done something, they started treating people with more dignity and not separating them from their parents as a matter of course.

They are not being held behind chain-link fences at a Border Patrol station because of a policy that requires them to be separated from their parents.

28-03-2021 07:46PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I feel many approve because a lot of rules have been delegated to the states themselves, Floridas version of lockdown looks like Ireland pre covid with a few masks. Its hard not to approve when everyone is seeing every other country with total lockdowns from their local bar or beach and going 'sure it could be worse'

That was also the case when Trump was in charge, and yet only 33% of people approved of how he handled it. (Both polls are from Ipsos.) Biden's overall approval rating for the pandemic handling is almost surpassing Trump's Republican approval rating, which is crazy.

Care to explain that ridiculously large difference based on your own logic?

dog_pig · 28-03-2021 07:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Latest polls show that 72% Americans approve of Joe Biden's handling of the pandemic.

https://www.newsweek.com/72-americans-approve-joe-bidens-handling-coronavirus-pandemic-poll-1579320

Considering how many die hard republicans there are who would never admit to approving of anything that a democratic president did, it's safe to say that almost all of the Americans who care capable of independent thinking see it as a overwhelming success.

What has Biden done differently versus Trump in relation to handling the pandemic?

Ha Long Bay · 28-03-2021 08:01PM

dog_pig wrote: »

What has Biden done differently versus Trump in relation to handling the pandemic?

For a start he hasn't denied it's a pandemic.

28-03-2021 08:05PM

dog_pig wrote: »

What has Biden done differently versus Trump in relation to handling the pandemic?

Well on day one, he made substantial changes including a mask mandate for public property, increasing test capacity. Other things include invoking the defense production act to up availability of vaccines and testing equipment.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/01/21/biden-covid-19-response-executive-orders-on-first-full-day-as-president/?sh=49a61ee016b3

Plus he surpassed his goal of a hundred million being vaccinated in his first hundred days.

Cody montana · 28-03-2021 08:05PM

dog_pig wrote: »

What has Biden done differently versus Trump in relation to handling the pandemic?

You’re joking, right?

28-03-2021 08:07PM

dog_pig wrote: »

What has Biden done differently versus Trump in relation to handling the pandemic?

Just the odd executive order or two, among other things.

dog_pig · 28-03-2021 08:27PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Well on day one, he made substantial changes including a mask mandate for public property, increasing test capacity. Other things include invoking the defense production act to up availability of vaccines and testing equipment.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/01/21/biden-covid-19-response-executive-orders-on-first-full-day-as-president/?sh=49a61ee016b3

Plus he surpassed his goal of a hundred million being vaccinated in his first hundred days.

Thanks for your answer and the link. The mask mandate and increasing test capacity seem like positive moves. In terms of the vaccine, is it fair to compare Trump to Biden given that it was only approved in the US with approximately a month of Trump's term left?

I did hear the US being praised for their determination in securing vaccines during 2020, would Trump have had anything to do with that?

Cody montana wrote: »

You’re joking, right?

No, I'm not. I'm not American and don't currently follow US politics closely. Is this something you'd expect the average Irish person to have a good knowledge of?

Deleted User wrote: »

Just the odd executive order or two, among other things.

Thanks for the links. How has this change in approach been reflected in the US COVID stats?

28-03-2021 08:33PM

dog_pig wrote: »

Thanks for the links. How has this change in approach been reflected in the US COVID stats?

Yes. The speed of the vaccination rollout is greater than expected and the number of active cases has reduced significantly.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

28-03-2021 08:41PM

dog_pig wrote: »

I did hear the US being praised for their determination in securing vaccines during 2020, would Trump have had anything to do with that?

Trump falsely claimed that he had something to do with it when he didn't.

As for securing vaccines, Trump also turned down Pfizer's offer to buy more vaccines as well as turned down the idea from USPS to send facemasks to every household, among other things.

everlast75 · 28-03-2021 08:44PM

dog_pig wrote: »

What has Biden done differently versus Trump in relation to handling the pandemic?

That is, with all due respect, a ridiculous question.

You'd want to be living under a rock to not know.

Tell me how · 28-03-2021 08:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes. The speed of the vaccination rollout is greater than expected and the number of active cases has reduced significantly.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Not to mention the conversation/rhetoric changed completely since the day Biden took over. No attention seeking press conferences with reference to TV ratings. No coded messages on social media suggesting that people might be fired because they said something which contrasted with the opinion of the sitting President.

The professionals at every level down from Biden have been able to focus their attention on doing their job and taking the advice of proven and responsible experts as their first guidance rather than someone completely unqualified to direct them as such.

Remember the nonsense about hydroxychloroquine or suggesting the efficacy of masks wasn't that good? Imagine how many conversations went on between medical professionals and their staff, hospital boards, patients which related to these items and which distracted from what the focus and action needed to be.

francois · 28-03-2021 08:49PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I feel many approve because a lot of rules have been delegated to the states themselves, Floridas version of lockdown looks like Ireland pre covid with a few masks. Its hard not to approve when everyone is seeing every other country with total lockdowns from their local bar or beach and going 'sure it could be worse'

Anecdotal I know, but a work colleague in Florida (English immigrant) says everyone is catching it lots of sick out of work, though luckily not on the danger list, the vax rollout has engendered a certain complacency

Water John · 28-03-2021 08:56PM

francois wrote: »

Anecdotal I know, but a work colleague in Florida (English immigrant) says everyone is catching it lots of sick out of work, though luckily not on the danger list, the vax rollout has engendered a certain complacency

Along with their Governer, Trumplite.

Biafranlivemat · 28-03-2021 09:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Latest polls show that 72% Americans approve of Joe Biden's handling of the pandemic.

https://www.newsweek.com/72-americans-approve-joe-bidens-handling-coronavirus-pandemic-poll-1579320

Considering how many die hard republicans there are who would never admit to approving of anything that a democratic president did, it's safe to say that almost all of the Americans who care capable of independent thinking see it as a overwhelming success.

Ah, Newsweek, I stopped buying that rag 15+ years ago, only find it now in Doctor's waiting room.

28-03-2021 09:03PM

Biafranlivemat wrote: »

Ah, Newsweek, I stopped buying that rag 15+ years ago, only find it now in Doctor's waiting room.

That's no problem, I can instead link you directly to the poll and you can tell what you think about it.

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2021-03/topline-abc-news-032821.pdf

Water John · 28-03-2021 09:06PM

Biafranlivemat wrote: »

Ah, Newsweek, I stopped buying that rag 15+ years ago, only find it now in Doctor's waiting room.

It's an Ipsos/ABC News poll, Newsweek is just reporting on it.

Eric Cartman · 28-03-2021 09:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

That was also the case when Trump was in charge, and yet only 33% of people approved of how he handled it. (Both polls are from Ipsos.) Biden's overall approval rating for the pandemic handling is almost surpassing Trump's Republican approval rating, which is crazy.

Care to explain that ridiculously large difference based on your own logic?

Im only here to talk about Joe Biden and will not be taking any questions that mention the previous president,

Good day sir.

28-03-2021 09:09PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Im only here to talk about Joe Biden and will not be taking any questions that mention the previous president,

Good day sir.

But it demonstrates that the logic you used is wrong. You are aware that you've just admitted that you are putting your fingers in your ears right?

28-03-2021 09:10PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Im only here to talk about Joe Biden and will not be taking any questions that mention the previous president,

Good day sir.

And I would say it's completely relevant that the confidence levels in the current president are far higher than the previous.

Water John · 28-03-2021 09:10PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Im only here to talk about Joe Biden and will not be taking any questions that mention the previous president,

Good day sir.

A comparison with the previous incumbent would indeed be embarrassing.

Leroy42 · 28-03-2021 09:12PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Im only here to talk about Joe Biden and will not be taking any questions that mention the previous president,

Good day sir.

So why do you think Bidens approval rating is so high? Simply because people think lockdowns are worse in other countries?

Except China, Australia, NZ, SK etc of course

28-03-2021 09:13PM

The most embarrassing thread on Boards.

Neoliberal corporate warmonger vs. Conservative warmonger.

A real battle for the ages.

Far more in common than against.

francois · 28-03-2021 09:14PM

Biafranlivemat wrote: »

Ah, Newsweek, I stopped buying that rag 15+ years ago, only find it now in Doctor's waiting room.

Shooting the messenger not the je message

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