Joe Biden Presidency thread Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21

26-03-2021 09:50PM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Can any person walk into a gun shop and walk out with a gun 5 minutes later?

Yes or no?

Yes, you can buy one in a shop which does not have a federal license, i.e. shops that "make occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-1104575661-816587285&term_occur=3&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:44:section:921

And as was said above, background checks in licensed stores can often be done very quickly in many states and many people just wait in the store until it's done.

duploelabs · 26-03-2021 10:01PM

International bigger than capital wrote: »

The echo is the echo chamber just increased several DB.

What a joke.

I hope you are Considering lifting bans on conservative posters who have been much less confrontational.

A dangerous precedent you are setting Mr Beasty.

Funny that it's only the trumpettes who whinge that 'it's so unfair' when we're all bound by the same rules

LessOutragePlz · 26-03-2021 10:20PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, you can buy one in a shop which does not have a federal license, i.e. shops that "make occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-1104575661-816587285&term_occur=3&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:44:section:921

And as was said above, background checks in licensed stores can often be done very quickly in many states and many people just wait in the store until it's done.

I stand corrected.

Realistically I can't see the situation changing anytime soon because a person that is intent on causing harm will get their hands on a gun be it legally or illegally obatained.

duploelabs · 26-03-2021 10:40PM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

I stand corrected.

Realistically I can't see the situation changing anytime soon because a person that is intent on causing harm will get their hands on a gun be it legally or illegally obatained.

'At least 68% of the guns used in US mass shootings of the last 30 years were obtained legally.'

So that would be a 68% drop which is a good thing right?

salmocab · 26-03-2021 10:42PM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

I stand corrected.

Realistically I can't see the situation changing anytime soon because a person that is intent on causing harm will get their hands on a gun be it legally or illegally obatained.

And that’s a narrative that is pushed, sure it will make no difference because they’ll get the guns somehow. Whilst that might be true in the very short term as time goes by with stricter controls there would be less available making them harder to get. The big crime set ups would still be able to get them but the disgruntled teen would find it harder. It should happen to save lives in years to come even if it would make little short term difference.
Actually just realised this Biden thread apologies.

Rows Grower · 26-03-2021 10:53PM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

I stand corrected.

Realistically I can't see the situation changing anytime soon because a person that is intent on causing harm will get their hands on a gun be it legally or illegally obatained.

Less of the outrage in future please.

biko · 26-03-2021 10:57PM

Border crisis is getting worse

https://twitter.com/SenThomTillis/status/1375508732713443332?s=20

weisses · 26-03-2021 11:04PM

biko wrote: »

Border crisis is getting worse

https://twitter.com/SenThomTillis/status/1375508732713443332?s=20

Did you had the same concern about the southern border during the previous administration ?

nolivesmatter · 26-03-2021 11:11PM

weisses wrote: »

Did you had the same concern about the southern border during the previous administration ?

Do you have any for what he just posted?

Tell me how · 26-03-2021 11:12PM

biko wrote: »

Border crisis is getting worse

https://twitter.com/SenThomTillis/status/1375508732713443332?s=20

What do you think should be done about it? What do you think this administration is doing which is not working or is the wrong approach?

Smee_Again · 26-03-2021 11:14PM

biko wrote: »

Border crisis is getting worse

https://twitter.com/SenThomTillis/status/1375508732713443332?s=20

Seems that Biden is treating these illegals as humans which is an improvement on his predecessor and is bound to annoy those who view them as little more than animals and would happily let them die in the desert.

26-03-2021 11:20PM

biko wrote: »

Border crisis is getting worse

https://twitter.com/SenThomTillis/status/1375508732713443332?s=20

nolivesmatter wrote: »

Do you have any for what he just posted?

We looked at data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection to see whether there’s a “crisis” — or even a “surge,” as many news outlets have characterized it. We analyzed monthly CBP data from 2012 to now and found no crisis or surge that can be attributed to Biden administration policies. Rather, the current increase in apprehensions fits a predictable pattern of seasonal changes in undocumented immigration combined with a backlog of demand because of 2020’s coronavirus border closure...

... the CBP has recorded a 28 percent increase in migrants apprehended from January to February 2021, from 78,442 to 100,441. News outlets, pundits and politicians have been calling this a “surge” and a “crisis.” ... the CBP’s numbers reveal that undocumented immigration is seasonal, shifting upward this time of year. During fiscal year 2019, under the Trump administration, total apprehensions increased 31 percent during the same period, a bigger jump than we’re seeing now. We’re comparing fiscal year 2021 to 2019 because the pandemic changed the pattern in 2020. In 2018, the increase is about 25 percent from February to March — somewhat smaller but still pronounced.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a35917469/no-border-surge-crisis-joe-biden/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/23/theres-no-migrant-surge-us-southern-border-heres-data/

extra gravy · 26-03-2021 11:21PM

weisses wrote: »

Did you had the same concern about the southern border during the previous administration ?

Now that Biden has done a press conference and they don't have that to whinge about anymore, we're back to the faux concern about the border.

Smee_Again · 26-03-2021 11:23PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a35917469/no-border-surge-crisis-joe-biden/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/23/theres-no-migrant-surge-us-southern-border-heres-data/

Wow, so Biden is performing better than Trump did while at the same time treating the people as actual humans.

That’s great news.

realdanbreen · 26-03-2021 11:55PM

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Fair play to Biden tho for generously giving us an hour of his time for the first time in over two months since taking office... well it wasn't really a press conference if he knew exactly what questions pre-chosen reporters would ask, reporters which he had the names and the headshots of in which he planned to call on, all marked out and ready on his prepared sheet.

ER! Welcome to 1920, that's around the time that PR, speechwriting, etc took off in earnest.

Professor Moriarty · 27-03-2021 12:47AM

weisses wrote: »

Did you had the same concern about the southern border during the previous administration ?

Don't bother. Some posters have a habit of dropping in something they found on the internet, adding a line just because they must and then disappearing. You won't get a meaningful response. If you get a response.

biko · 27-03-2021 01:09AM

Tell me how wrote: »

What do you think should be done about it? What do you think this administration is doing which is not working or is the wrong approach?

Biden made it happen by promising US citizenship to nearly 11 million undocumented people so he needs to visit the border first and foremost and see what incredible magnet he has made his country.

He needs to do something about the refugee cages from the days when he was VP. They are still there, Joe.

Christy42 · 27-03-2021 02:45AM

biko wrote: »

Biden made it happen by promising US citizenship to nearly 11 million undocumented people so he needs to visit the border first and foremost and see what incredible magnet he has made his country.

He needs to do something about the refugee cages from the days when he was VP. They are still there, Joe.

There were "invasions" of caravans under the last regime, to the point of it being referred to as a national crisis. Seems unlikely to be just Joe that is bringing them to the US.

astrofool · 27-03-2021 02:51AM

So apparently the previous administrations walls in the middle of nowhere also built roads into the middle of nowhere as well to facilitate building and are now being used by immigrants to cross previously inaccessible areas. Their incompetency levels had no limit and it will take Biden a while to tidy it all up.

trump promised a mexican wall, and ended up building them a road at the cost of army childrens education.

Real Donald Trump · 27-03-2021 04:16AM

charlie_says wrote: »

Will this be Joe's next scandal?

*Possible* secret service involvement in Hunter's alleged gun felony

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/25/sources-secret-service-inserted-itself-into-case-of-hunter-bidens-gun-477879

If it were one of Trumps sons they'd have a field day on here, but seeing that it's Joe's son, there's nothing to see here. :rolleyes:

extra gravy · 27-03-2021 09:53AM

Back to Hunter again :pac:

BanditLuke · 27-03-2021 10:06AM

biko wrote: »

Border crisis is getting worse

https://twitter.com/SenThomTillis/status/1375508732713443332?s=20

Biden's first 100 days has been an absolute disaster on this issue. Weak leadership.

Smee_Again · 27-03-2021 10:12AM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Biden's first 100 days has been an absolute disaster on this issue. Weak leadership.

His year on year figures are 3% better than Trump’s.

Biden is showing it’s possible to slow the increase in migrants while also treating them like human beings. That’s leadership.

TheRepentent · 27-03-2021 10:54AM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Weak leadership.

Lol at the trumpist going on about weak leadership:rolleyes:

duploelabs · 27-03-2021 11:11AM

TheRepentent wrote: »

Lol at the trumpist going on about weak leadership:rolleyes:

Projection

Faugheen · 27-03-2021 01:21PM

Real Donald Trump wrote: »

If it were one of Trumps sons they'd have a field day on here, but seeing that it's Joe's son, there's nothing to see here. :rolleyes:

That's because Trump's sons actually worked in the White House.

You know this, but choose to spin it into poor victimhood for a man who cared less about anyone but himself.

Muahahaha · 27-03-2021 03:15PM

Christy42 wrote: »

There were "invasions" of caravans under the last regime, to the point of it being referred to as a national crisis. Seems unlikely to be just Joe that is bringing them to the US.

yeah pretty sure Biden said in his presser that migration increased 31% while Trump was in office. That was in answer to a question that tried to cast the reason the migrants are coming as because he got elected as US President and they think he is a nice guy. Im sure the likes of Fox are trying to sell it that way too but as Biden pointed out they were coming under Trumps administration in big numbers too and that was despite his rhetoric about migrants.

In any case I think he will get a handle on it, he said he is working with the Mexican government which presumably means he is trying to mobilise them to make sure the migrants dont get near the border at all. Ultimately the solution is to get the Mexican government to secure their southern border with Guatemala to stem the flows into Mexico in the first place.

astrofool · 27-03-2021 04:28PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

yeah pretty sure Biden said in his presser that migration increased 31% while Trump was in office. That was in answer to a question that tried to cast the reason the migrants are coming as because he got elected as US President and they think he is a nice guy. Im sure the likes of Fox are trying to sell it that way too but as Biden pointed out they were coming under Trumps administration in big numbers too and that was despite his rhetoric about migrants.

In any case I think he will get a handle on it, he said he is working with the Mexican government which presumably means he is trying to mobilise them to make sure the migrants dont get near the border at all. Ultimately the solution is to get the Mexican government to secure their southern border with Guatemala to stem the flows into Mexico in the first place.

People forget that people are travelling through another country (Mexico) to get to the border, and that cooperating with Mexico on the issue is the only way to solve the problem properly, trying to do it solely at the border is stupid (as the previous administration tried to do).

To tie it over to this side of the pond, after Brexit, the Dutch and French have no impetus to stop migrants heading to the UK anymore, so they'll happily let them through if the UK is the final destination, which will end up with more, rather then less, migrants coming to the UK.

Biafranlivemat · 28-03-2021 04:25AM

Tell me how wrote: »

What do you think should be done about it? What do you think this administration is doing which is not working or is the wrong approach?

Sometimes I'm in favor of illegal immigration, but only if they are moved to the suburbs of Boston, like Cambridge or Arlington or Watertown.
Plenty of room, just knock down the beautiful single family homes and put in massive concrete 12 floor buildings, that can house 100's of 3 bedroom apartments, for the poor illegals.

Unless the haters and Racists in those towns object.

Biafranlivemat · 28-03-2021 04:28AM

astrofool wrote: »

So apparently the previous administrations walls in the middle of nowhere also built roads into the middle of nowhere as well to facilitate building and are now being used by immigrants to cross previously inaccessible areas. Their incompetency levels had no limit and it will take Biden a while to tidy it all up.

trump promised a mexican wall, and ended up building them a road at the cost of army childrens education.

Do you have any idea of how much money is wasted in the US every year for a half assed "Education"
The wall is a great investment.

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