Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

round baler JD 578 with 2m pick up, I have enough horses in front of it for the coming season




How many foot of silage would be ok to rake in front of it ? 20 , 22 , 24?


I don't what it hard on the baler either and was looking for a 20ft rake but there are hard found in 2nd market. Raked with a single roto last year and sure I probably was putting 187ft when heavy and 24ft when a bit lighter but hadn't the power in front of the baler to risk 22/24ft of heavy crop

oxjkqg wrote: »

187ft swarths - lord fock :eek:

woops

lakill Farm wrote: »

round baler JD 578 with 2m pick up, I have enough horses in front of it for the coming season




How many foot of silage would be ok to rake in front of it ? 20 , 22 , 24?


I don't what it hard on the baler either and was looking for a 20ft rake but there are hard found in 2nd market. Raked with a single roto last year and sure I probably was putting 187ft when heavy and 24ft when a bit lighter but hadn't the power in front of the baler to risk 22/24ft of heavy crop

We had one for years . Ran it on anything from a 7740 to a tm155. 7740 was just about able for it . If you blocked it it cut the tractor dead. On a bigger tractor slip clutch went .
As gilllespie says bigger swarth means you have to go slower. We once picked up a heavy wet crop from a big m. Literally bottom gear. .
A few tips. Carry a can of hair spray or talc for the rollers of the feed for the net.
Figure out which brand of net it likes and stick to it .
Every day before you use it , put it into reverse then forward . They are known for internal leakage so it mightnt be fully engaged in forward.
If you need to use the reverse make sure you can lift and drop the reel afterwards before starting the pto.
Take off the panels and check the condition of the back door hinges. Check they are tight .
The mounts for the rams on the back door can break too so check for cracks .
What year is it btw ?
We had a 2002 that would chop anything and a 2005 th as t didnt like wiry dry stuff. Supposedly known for it .
The manuals for it are on the johndeere dot com website with all the fault codes

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Excellent summary.

What ever happened John Deere’s grass equipment?

Was a market leader at one time

Balerwise everyone seems to be buying fusions . Mowerwise a lot of people swear by the 1365 ,afaik they dont make it anymore.
It had a kuhn bed in it. From driving both of them for years, i found the kuhn was superior

davidk1394 wrote: »

I had a deere F441 R out on demo. It was an animal to take in grass and quick to net. It is well built but it didn't like short grass. It sat in the gap between the pick up and chopper

Solid looking baler.

McHales suffer a similar problem with short stuff.

endainoz wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/toppers-for-sale/major-cyclone-topper/27547569

Very nice price for a cyclone, if it actually hasn't been used.

Whats special about a cyclone topper?

davidk1394 wrote: »

I'll keep at it as long as I can. That diesel bug is hard to shake at times

I hear ya, just don't lose sight of the common sense. See a lad here and what he is at is strange

davidk1394 wrote: »

I think I need common sense to loose it :P but yeah in all seriousness I fully understand what your saying

At a minimum you’ll need a full time relief milker for evening milking to have any hope of keeping at the contracting and cows

Reggie. wrote: »

Theres a fella i know that in order for him to keep the help for the summer, he stays at home and sends the worker out to do the slurry just to keep him employed over the winter months. He would nearly be better off in my mind to pull back abit of work and tip along himself all year. What he's at couldn't pay

The fact that he has someone that knows the run of the place and he himself can head off for a few days without strangling himself for three days before preparing to go. All of that cannot be put a value on

Reggie. wrote: »

Theres a fella i know that in order for him to keep the help for the summer, he stays at home and sends the worker out to do the slurry just to keep him employed over the winter months. He would nearly be better off in my mind to pull back abit of work and tip along himself all year. What he's at couldn't pay

Some lads get that reliant on another's help,that they'd be "at sea" without the same help.

lakill Farm wrote: »

Thanks 9935452


its 2007 with 10500 bales on it. ex farmer machine with 1/2 haylage and 1/2 silage baled with it and almost no knife work done. chains , sprockets and netting all seemed fine on last year. it has auto oiler, but manual grease bank . Ill check the back door hinges and rams but at 11k bales it has only a season of work done and I wont think it has 300 mile of road work done


Had its on mccormick 105 last year but going to stick it behind a 185hp fastrac this year . Speed isn't an issue when your at your own work, I would just be tipping along. a big M is putting 30ft in front so realistic it should be ok for 24/26ft so of tedded out grass so just tipping along


The lad I bought it off told me he never ever used the reverse feed on the baler as he heard to many stories of damaging gearboxes, so he told me he only ever turned off the pto and tractor and manually pulled out a clog, and the once it happened last year I did the same as it was the first day and well I was learning as I went along


Yes a few people told me about talc powder alright , but I had no issues with it and again the seller told me TAMA net so that's all I have bought for it either .


thank you for all the advice and pointers

The problem with the gearboxes was , it was controlled with the same hydraulic supply that the reel uses. You stop the pto , select reverse on the control box, pull the lever that normally lifts the reel to select reverse at the gearbox. Start the pto to reverse.
Then the opposite to put back into forward. The problem was when lads didnt select forward on the control box . Started the pto , the next time they went to lift the reel , it went from going full speed forward to reverse and bang
You are better off using the reverse on the gearbox though as they have been known to leak oil internally across the valve chest.
We were looking at one stage of making a bracket to bolt the gearbox permanently into forward.
The net is normally fine when its working , its changing the rolls is where the problem happens.
Never use a knife to cut the net off the rubber roller eithre. It damages the roller which catches the net. Take off drive belt off the netter and extend it and the mechanism will freewheel..
Another thing that is commonly done is widening the front chamber by an inch or so.
In the bad wet summer , certain types of bsles wouldnt come out of the chamber. They would just stick. There are plates inside the back door thst are meant to pull it out but werent.
Jacked out the front chamber by an inch and it never happened again.

Well wear with the baler btw

9935452 wrote: »

The problem with the gearboxes was , it was controlled with the same hydraulic supply that the reel uses. You stop the pto , select reverse on the control box, pull the lever that normally lifts the reel to select reverse at the gearbox. Start the pto to reverse.
Then the opposite to put back into forward. The problem was when lads didnt select forward on the control box . Started the pto , the next time they went to lift the reel , it went from going full speed forward to reverse and bang
You are better off using the reverse on the gearbox though as they have been known to leak oil internally across the valve chest.
We were looking at one stage of making a bracket to bolt the gearbox permanently into forward.
The net is normally fine when its working , its changing the rolls is where the problem happens.
Never use a knife to cut the net off the rubber roller eithre. It damages the roller which catches the net. Take off drive belt off the netter and extend it and the mechanism will freewheel..
Another thing that is commonly done is widening the front chamber by an inch or so.
In the bad wet summer , certain types of bsles wouldnt come out of the chamber. They would just stick. There are plates inside the back door thst are meant to pull it out but werent.
Jacked out the front chamber by an inch and it never happened again.

Well wear with the baler btw

User of a 575 for the past 10 years here. I only do 7/800 of my own bales with it. It’s a Good reliable baler and I have found it makes a very good bale. I have never really baled more than 10ft at a time though.

I echo advice on treating reversing gearbox with respect. I do use mine, but only by dabbing the pto carefully.

Tama net works well. I have never needed talc, but sometimes the silver roller needs a rub of very fine sandpaper if it is slightly rusted at the start of the year. Also keep the Baler in overnight, even the slightest bit of damp can make the netter play up.

Taking off the belt is the key to unraveling the net.

They are known for going on fire if the bearing just under the oil reservoir fails dramatically.