Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Klonker · 27-03-2021 11:45PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

i dont think there will be much retrictions eased between now and mid june. id say it will be july before hotels/pubs open

I think that's what NPHET will advise. I'm hoping the government will finally grow a backbone and do their jobs and make the decisions they were elected to do. Below is what I think is a balanced reopening but obviously needs to be fleshed out a bit.

April 5th: construction reopen, kids outdoor training, click and collect, golf and tennis allowed back, can meet up to 3 households outside but keep social distancing, change 5km to county boundaries.

Early May: Adult training/team exercise allowed, non essential retail, hairdressers and other services, outdoor dining

Early June: Restaurants indoors, can meet up inside up 2 households or so many in a 10 day period (whichever way would work best), country wide travel

Early July: Pubs open, up to 3 households allowed, gathering of x amounts inside/outside (basically same retrictions as last summer when pubs were opened)

Don't really know after that but can see how things are going. It might not ease any more than that for a while or all could be gone by August, hard to tell at this stage. How things go in the UK will be a good guideline for us.

NH2013 · 27-03-2021 11:52PM

Klonker wrote: »

I think that's what NPHET will advise. I'm hoping the government will finally grow a backbone and do their jobs and make the decisions they were elected to do. Below is what I think is a balanced reopening but obviously needs to be fleshed out a bit.

April 5th: construction reopen, kids outdoor training, click and collect, golf and tennis allowed back, can meet up to 3 households outside but keep social distancing, change 5km to county boundaries.

Early May: Adult training/team exercise allowed, non essential retail, hairdressers and other services, outdoor dining

Early June: Restaurants indoors, can meet up inside up 2 households or so many in a 10 day period (whichever way would work best), country wide travel

Early July: Pubs open, up to 3 households allowed, gathering of x amounts inside/outside (basically same retrictions as last summer when pubs were opened)

Don't really know after that but can see how things are going. It might not ease any more than that for a while or all could be gone by August, hard to tell at this stage. How things go in the UK will be a good guideline for us.

Seems like a fairly sensible pragmatic approach to reopening based on the vaccine schedule and known transmission risks.

SleetAndSnow · 27-03-2021 11:52PM

https://twitter.com/NextIrishGE/status/1375933038866137095?s=20

Hmm?

I wonder if this is true, and if so, what do we need to do in return

NH2013 · 27-03-2021 11:52PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/NextIrishGE/status/1375933038866137095?s=20

Hmm?

I wonder if this is true, and if so, what do we need to do in return

Amazing news if true, though of course it is all dependent on when they can be delivered.

If they're going to wait until they've vaccinated their own people first then it's little use to us, as we'll likely also have a surplus of vaccines by then.

However, if they're prepared to give them to us within the next 4-6 weeks that would be a major shot in the arm to our vaccine program, if you'll pardon the pun.

:D

ShineOn7 · 27-03-2021 11:56PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

The new variants would muddy the waters of comparisons there, I heard something on the news to the effect triples the chance of hospitalisation even for under 65s but I haven't seen the supporting data on that.

Jaysus if true

Triple?!

We'll need a source on that one

External Association · 28-03-2021 12:01AM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Hmm?

I wonder if this is true, and if so, what do we need to do in return

And a United Ireland no doubt!

Cork2021 · 28-03-2021 12:02AM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/NextIrishGE/status/1375933038866137095?s=20

Hmm?

I wonder if this is true, and if so, what do we need to do in return

We’d probably need to swear allegiance to BJs gorilla tribe!
But I’ll take whatever they’re offering. If that was relatively soon our adult vaccination programme would be done in the summer with only under 18’s then if needed

bilston · 28-03-2021 12:07AM

Makes sense all round.

Helps NI lifts its lockdown without fear of a new wave coming from the south which could obviously make its way to GB as well.

Helps get Ireland vaccinated quicker

I'm sure there is a political angle to all of this as well.

28-03-2021 12:08AM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Jaysus if true

Triple?!

We'll need a source on that one

Could be true but its the negative way of saying something. If there was a one percent chance of something happening for example and you tripled it its now a 3 percent chance which is still very low.

ShineOn7 · 28-03-2021 12:08AM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/NextIrishGE/status/1375933038866137095?s=20

Hmm?

I wonder if this is true, and if so, what do we need to do in return

That's massive

If that's true and we get them into people's arms by July, on top of the ramp up already coming, then surely to fúck we'll be all but done by August/September vaccinations wise

Are all the vaccinations flavours spaced out by 12 weeks for the second shot?

Cork2021 · 28-03-2021 12:09AM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

That's massive

If that's true and we get them into people's arms by July, on top of the ramp up already coming, then surely to fúck we'll be all but done by August/September vaccinations wise

Are all the vaccinations flavours spaced out by 12 weeks for the second shot?

Just AZ

Cork2021 · 28-03-2021 12:11AM

TheDoctor wrote: »

Hospital numbers at 8pm

Total 319 (up from 304 last night)
ICU 65 (down from 66 last night)

Last Saturday
Total 350
ICU 83

They really need to start discharging patients on a Saturday and Sunday, it’s silly really that you get bumped up at the weekends and then Monday there’s a big drop and then slows down as you go along

ShineOn7 · 28-03-2021 12:12AM

bilston wrote: »

I'm sure there is a political angle to all of this as well.

Definitely

I saw one UK website (I forget which) say (paraphrasing) "If Bojo gets Britain out of this by Summer, he'll be viewed by us in the same way we look back on Winston Churchill"

:pac:

Ffs

Gas

ShineOn7 · 28-03-2021 12:14AM

Cork2021 wrote: »

Just AZ

What are the wait times for the second shot for the others?

Cheers

Cork2021 · 28-03-2021 12:15AM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

What are the wait times for the second shot for the others?

Cheers

21-28 days after the first shot and then obviously J&J is one shot only

Tredstone. · 28-03-2021 12:17AM

Smells like bs about the UK giving us vaccines

Isn't it their 2nd time mooting this ?

ShineOn7 · 28-03-2021 12:19AM

TheDoctor wrote: »

Hospital numbers at 8pm

Total 319 (up from 304 last night)

Disappointing rise, we had a nice downward thing going on for a good while

Hopefully just a blip

BlondeBomb · 28-03-2021 12:20AM

Aren’t the UK set to be behind on the vaccines in April due to shortages?

We won’t see vaccines from the UK before June

JRant · 28-03-2021 12:21AM

Klonker wrote: »

I'm actually pleasantly surprised that he was questioned on it. Hopefully it's questioned again because it really needs to be.

It should already be a matter of public record IMO. His models and projections should be available to everyone. Having to get answers from that group is like taking a trip to the Oracle of Delphi.

Cork2021 · 28-03-2021 12:22AM

BlondeBomb wrote: »

Aren’t the UK set to be behind on the vaccines in April due to shortages?

We won’t see vaccines from the UK before June

That’s okay though. Imagine the reaction here if we knew there was 3.5 million doses extra Arriving in June

Tredstone. · 28-03-2021 12:24AM

Cork2021 wrote: »

That’s okay though. Imagine the reaction here if we knew there was 3.5 million doses extra Arriving in June

I'd rather no more promises at this stage

ShineOn7 · 28-03-2021 12:25AM

Cork2021 wrote: »

That’s okay though. Imagine the reaction here if we knew there was 3.5 million doses extra Arriving in June

There was a time there was legitimate talk about no vaccines for 2-3 years

Imagine that timeline! I would genuinely struggle to get out of bed

What Science has achieved with this is nothing short of one of the greatest things mankind has done

noplacehere · 28-03-2021 12:27AM

Am I reading that right, they say Easter to start giving these? It’s a screenshot. That’s like a week away. That can’t be right

28-03-2021 12:27AM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Disappointing rise, we had a nice downward thing going on for a good while

Hopefully just a blip

Discharges are always low at the weekend. Incredibly, sometimes there isn't the correct person to to discharge the patient. Same every weekend.

Always_Running · 28-03-2021 12:28AM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Disappointing rise, we had a nice downward thing going on for a good while

Hopefully just a blip

Would be expected not disappointing.

Monday to Friday are the possible downward days not Saturday and Sunday.

ShineOn7 · 28-03-2021 12:30AM

Always_Running wrote: »

Would be expected not disappointing.

Monday to Friday are the possible downward days not Saturday and Sunday.

Ah yes, I forgot there's no discharge numbers at weekends

28-03-2021 12:30AM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/NextIrishGE/status/1375933038866137095?s=20

Hmm?

I wonder if this is true, and if so, what do we need to do in return

I think the UK have to start helping Ireland with vaccinations. If restrictions start to diverge too much, the CTA will become hard to manage and that is not in the UKs interests

Oranage2 · 28-03-2021 12:31AM

I thought it was established that with schools opened the best we can hope for is a slow stagnation, no chance of downward trends now.

Widdensushi · 28-03-2021 12:34AM

Carefree88 wrote: »

Slovakia did similar not sure how they got on with it.

They have double our cases, it didn't work for them.

User142 · 28-03-2021 12:34AM

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1375946330674188295

Government preparing to let us know that strict restrictions required for April and May according to the Sindo

Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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