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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Klonker


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    i dont think there will be much retrictions eased between now and mid june. id say it will be july before hotels/pubs open

    I think that's what NPHET will advise. I'm hoping the government will finally grow a backbone and do their jobs and make the decisions they were elected to do. Below is what I think is a balanced reopening but obviously needs to be fleshed out a bit.

    April 5th: construction reopen, kids outdoor training, click and collect, golf and tennis allowed back, can meet up to 3 households outside but keep social distancing, change 5km to county boundaries.

    Early May: Adult training/team exercise allowed, non essential retail, hairdressers and other services, outdoor dining

    Early June: Restaurants indoors, can meet up inside up 2 households or so many in a 10 day period (whichever way would work best), country wide travel

    Early July: Pubs open, up to 3 households allowed, gathering of x amounts inside/outside (basically same retrictions as last summer when pubs were opened)

    Don't really know after that but can see how things are going. It might not ease any more than that for a while or all could be gone by August, hard to tell at this stage. How things go in the UK will be a good guideline for us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭NH2013


    Klonker wrote: »
    I think that's what NPHET will advise. I'm hoping the government will finally grow a backbone and do their jobs and make the decisions they were elected to do. Below is what I think is a balanced reopening but obviously needs to be fleshed out a bit.

    April 5th: construction reopen, kids outdoor training, click and collect, golf and tennis allowed back, can meet up to 3 households outside but keep social distancing, change 5km to county boundaries.

    Early May: Adult training/team exercise allowed, non essential retail, hairdressers and other services, outdoor dining

    Early June: Restaurants indoors, can meet up inside up 2 households or so many in a 10 day period (whichever way would work best), country wide travel

    Early July: Pubs open, up to 3 households allowed, gathering of x amounts inside/outside (basically same retrictions as last summer when pubs were opened)

    Don't really know after that but can see how things are going. It might not ease any more than that for a while or all could be gone by August, hard to tell at this stage. How things go in the UK will be a good guideline for us.

    Seems like a fairly sensible pragmatic approach to reopening based on the vaccine schedule and known transmission risks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    https://twitter.com/NextIrishGE/status/1375933038866137095?s=20

    Hmm?

    I wonder if this is true, and if so, what do we need to do in return


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭NH2013


    https://twitter.com/NextIrishGE/status/1375933038866137095?s=20

    Hmm?

    I wonder if this is true, and if so, what do we need to do in return

    Amazing news if true, though of course it is all dependent on when they can be delivered.

    If they're going to wait until they've vaccinated their own people first then it's little use to us, as we'll likely also have a surplus of vaccines by then.

    However, if they're prepared to give them to us within the next 4-6 weeks that would be a major shot in the arm to our vaccine program, if you'll pardon the pun. :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    The new variants would muddy the waters of comparisons there, I heard something on the news to the effect triples the chance of hospitalisation even for under 65s but I haven't seen the supporting data on that.

    Jaysus if true

    Triple?!

    We'll need a source on that one


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭External Association



    Hmm?

    I wonder if this is true, and if so, what do we need to do in return

    And a United Ireland no doubt!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    https://twitter.com/NextIrishGE/status/1375933038866137095?s=20

    Hmm?

    I wonder if this is true, and if so, what do we need to do in return

    We’d probably need to swear allegiance to BJs gorilla tribe!
    But I’ll take whatever they’re offering. If that was relatively soon our adult vaccination programme would be done in the summer with only under 18’s then if needed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Makes sense all round.

    Helps NI lifts its lockdown without fear of a new wave coming from the south which could obviously make its way to GB as well.

    Helps get Ireland vaccinated quicker

    I'm sure there is a political angle to all of this as well.


  • Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Jaysus if true

    Triple?!

    We'll need a source on that one


    Could be true but its the negative way of saying something. If there was a one percent chance of something happening for example and you tripled it its now a 3 percent chance which is still very low.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    https://twitter.com/NextIrishGE/status/1375933038866137095?s=20

    Hmm?

    I wonder if this is true, and if so, what do we need to do in return


    That's massive

    If that's true and we get them into people's arms by July, on top of the ramp up already coming, then surely to fúck we'll be all but done by August/September vaccinations wise

    Are all the vaccinations flavours spaced out by 12 weeks for the second shot?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    That's massive

    If that's true and we get them into people's arms by July, on top of the ramp up already coming, then surely to fúck we'll be all but done by August/September vaccinations wise

    Are all the vaccinations flavours spaced out by 12 weeks for the second shot?
    Just AZ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hospital numbers at 8pm

    Total 319 (up from 304 last night)
    ICU 65 (down from 66 last night)

    Last Saturday
    Total 350
    ICU 83

    They really need to start discharging patients on a Saturday and Sunday, it’s silly really that you get bumped up at the weekends and then Monday there’s a big drop and then slows down as you go along


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    bilston wrote: »
    I'm sure there is a political angle to all of this as well.


    Definitely

    I saw one UK website (I forget which) say (paraphrasing) "If Bojo gets Britain out of this by Summer, he'll be viewed by us in the same way we look back on Winston Churchill"

    :pac:

    Ffs

    Gas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Just AZ


    What are the wait times for the second shot for the others?

    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    What are the wait times for the second shot for the others?

    Cheers

    21-28 days after the first shot and then obviously J&J is one shot only


  • Site Banned Posts: 59 ✭✭Tredstone.


    Smells like bs about the UK giving us vaccines

    Isn't it their 2nd time mooting this ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hospital numbers at 8pm

    Total 319 (up from 304 last night)


    Disappointing rise, we had a nice downward thing going on for a good while

    Hopefully just a blip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭BlondeBomb


    Aren’t the UK set to be behind on the vaccines in April due to shortages?

    We won’t see vaccines from the UK before June


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,270 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Klonker wrote: »
    I'm actually pleasantly surprised that he was questioned on it. Hopefully it's questioned again because it really needs to be.

    It should already be a matter of public record IMO. His models and projections should be available to everyone. Having to get answers from that group is like taking a trip to the Oracle of Delphi.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    BlondeBomb wrote: »
    Aren’t the UK set to be behind on the vaccines in April due to shortages?

    We won’t see vaccines from the UK before June

    That’s okay though. Imagine the reaction here if we knew there was 3.5 million doses extra Arriving in June


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  • Site Banned Posts: 59 ✭✭Tredstone.


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    That’s okay though. Imagine the reaction here if we knew there was 3.5 million doses extra Arriving in June

    I'd rather no more promises at this stage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    That’s okay though. Imagine the reaction here if we knew there was 3.5 million doses extra Arriving in June


    There was a time there was legitimate talk about no vaccines for 2-3 years

    Imagine that timeline! I would genuinely struggle to get out of bed

    What Science has achieved with this is nothing short of one of the greatest things mankind has done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭noplacehere


    Am I reading that right, they say Easter to start giving these? It’s a screenshot. That’s like a week away. That can’t be right


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Disappointing rise, we had a nice downward thing going on for a good while

    Hopefully just a blip

    Discharges are always low at the weekend. Incredibly, sometimes there isn't the correct person to to discharge the patient. Same every weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Disappointing rise, we had a nice downward thing going on for a good while

    Hopefully just a blip

    Would be expected not disappointing.

    Monday to Friday are the possible downward days not Saturday and Sunday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Would be expected not disappointing.

    Monday to Friday are the possible downward days not Saturday and Sunday.


    Ah yes, I forgot there's no discharge numbers at weekends


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://twitter.com/NextIrishGE/status/1375933038866137095?s=20

    Hmm?

    I wonder if this is true, and if so, what do we need to do in return

    I think the UK have to start helping Ireland with vaccinations. If restrictions start to diverge too much, the CTA will become hard to manage and that is not in the UKs interests


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I thought it was established that with schools opened the best we can hope for is a slow stagnation, no chance of downward trends now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Carefree88 wrote: »
    Slovakia did similar not sure how they got on with it.

    They have double our cases, it didn't work for them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭User142


    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1375946330674188295

    Government preparing to let us know that strict restrictions required for April and May according to the Sindo


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