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Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    happytramp wrote: »
    Anyone have any idea what's next for Sam? What does the rest of his season look like etc.

    RTÉ sports award?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,682 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    happytramp wrote: »
    Anyone have any idea what's next for Sam? What does the rest of his season look like etc.


    Scheldepris and Ghent Wevelgem are next.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,143 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    bazermc wrote: »
    RTÉ sports award?

    He better hope no one wins any olympic medals


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭PatM65


    happytramp wrote: »
    Anyone have any idea what's next for Sam? What does the rest of his season look like etc.

    He's riding the 203 kilometre Brugge-De Panne on Wednesday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭PatM65


    bazermc wrote: »
    RTÉ sports award?

    He could have competition from another Tipperary sports person in the shape of Rachael Blackmore!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    PatM65 wrote: »
    He could have competition from another Tipperary sports person in the shape of Rachael Blackmore!

    Good yeah. No doubt she’ll win it. They may aswell just give it to her now.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,408 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    bazermc wrote: »
    Good yeah. No doubt she’ll win it. They may aswell just give it to her now.
    I'd say they'll even get a correct picture of her to display!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭Junior


    I'd say they'll even get a correct picture of her to display!


    Nah they'll show the horse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,143 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    bazermc wrote: »
    Good yeah. No doubt she’ll win it. They may aswell just give it to her now.

    Meh. Give it to the horse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,100 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    bazermc wrote: »
    RTÉ sports award?

    They'll want him finishing a lot higher than 138th in the tour if they're to consider him for that !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭Junior


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Meh. Give it to the horse


    Exactly the sort of sentiment that lost Cian O'Connor a Gold Medal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Finnrocco


    What did Sam say about the race?

    He obviously punctured at a bad time and looked to be struggling a bot in the chase.

    Then he was on the right side of the split before the Poggio.

    It also looked like he was having mechanical issues.

    Any news on these ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭on_the_nickel


    Disc brakes rubbing on the spare bike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,789 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Disc brakes rubbing on the spare bike.

    That's somewhat less than ideal, would do your head in as well, sadly at that time in the race no option but to persevere....


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,224 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Pro Cycling Stats are fairly reliable if you are ever wondering what Sam, or anyone else, is doing next - https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/sam-bennett


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,401 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    bazermc wrote: »
    RTÉ sports award?
    breezy1985 wrote: »
    He better hope no one wins any olympic medals

    I'd say they'd want to win 2 to take it from Rachel Blackmore after the week she had last week. Sam should obviously have gotten it last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,019 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    I'd say they'd want to win 2 to take it from Rachel Blackmore after the week she had last week

    It’s March. In an Olympic year.

    There’s no need to be talking about any award being seen up


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    Just for some perspective on Rachel Blackmore.
    What Rachel Blackmore has done is incredible - it's stratospheric. To do it as a man is massive, to do it as a women is in another universe of achievement. She might even end the season as winning jockey, she's 5 wins behind Paul Townend, although it's nearly the end of the season now. Coming second is a huge, massive, indescribably enormous achievement, to win is some thing else. No woman has ever been near that before, it's absolutely massive. Racing and equestrianism are the only sports that women and men compete on a par, and in racing women are way, way, way outnumbered. To do what she's done is huge. It's not just riding winners, although riding for one of the most inform trainers in the world does help, but the cultural change challenged is a massive shift in sport.
    she has stood on teh shoulders of women who came before her, notably Nina Carberry and Katie Walsh, both of whom stayed as amateurs, never turned pro like Rachel, but to get the rides she has has been a battle that's gone on for decades. She's changed the whole sport in terms of what women jockeys are capable of, and turned hundreds of years (and current despite her success) of wrongful judgement on his head.

    it's hard to overstate what Rachel Blackmore has done when you look at it.

    ETA there's a great documentary about Rachel Blackmore, Katie Walsh (in her last season), Lisa O'Neill and Kate O'Farrell called Jump Girls. It's excellent, follows them for the 2019 I think season. There's one for the men too called Jump Boys. I think it's on their player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    Bennett and Mørkøv combine for best sprint duo in pro peloton

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bennett-and-morkov-combine-for-best-sprint-duo-in-pro-peloton/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,837 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Thoughts with The Flying Mullet at this difficult time...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭dublin49



    Would Sam not be winning without Morkov??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,176 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    Not nearly as many id say. Morkov has a very calming influence on Sam it seems, Same relaly trusts him now. In the early days there were plenty of races Sam lost because he got over excited/went too early etc. He 100% trusts Morkov now to get him to the right spot at the perfect time. The few on board camera shots ive seen of Morkov are good too, shows how great he is at working through the madness!


  • Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bazermc wrote: »
    Good yeah. No doubt she’ll win it. They may aswell just give it to her now.

    An award basically for being ballast?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,837 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    He'd be winning, but not as much. I watched the last 20km of De Panne this morning on the turbo, and Blythe was really pointing out that it's Morkov's calmness and picking the moments as much as the final lead out.

    In fairness, DQS are pretty good at getting things together, as well as Morkov. They were letting the rest of them fight for the front, and then just came up when they needed too. But it helps that Sam is clearly the fastest at the moment - easy for the team to work for Sam when he's in such good form, easy for Sam to trust the process when it's working out.

    It came out of all the talk of Bora trying to buy the team for Evenepoel that only 4 DQS are under contract for next year - hopefully Sam, and Morkov stay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭redlead


    Sam was robbed of SPOTY last year but to be fair even I would give it to Rachel Blackmore this year and I have no interest in horses whatsoever. Just an amazing achievement doubled because she is a woman competing against men. It will probably go to some boxer with a silver medal in the Olympics though.

    If Sam can keep this form going for the rest of the year he could have a field day in the TDF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,143 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    redlead wrote: »
    Sam was robbed of SPOTY last year but to be fair even I would give it to Rachel Blackmore this year and I have no interest in horses whatsoever. Just an amazing achievement doubled because she is a woman competing against men. It will probably go to some boxer with a silver medal in the Olympics though.

    If Sam can keep this form going for the rest of the year he could have a field day in the TDF.

    What is it she has done exactly I don't have a clue about horse racing. Did she win a big event or something ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭redlead


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    What is it she has done exactly I don't have a clue about horse racing. Did she win a big event or something ?

    She won the most races in Cheltenham out of any Jockey and so is champion Jockey or something like that. Cheltenham is like the tour de France for that type of hurdle racing etc. Effectively she won the green Jersey but did it as a woman. I know very little about horses so I'm sure others could set me right but that's the jist of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,143 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    redlead wrote: »
    She won the most races in Cheltenham out of any Jockey and so is champion Jockey or something like that. Cheltenham is like the tour de France for that type of hurdle racing etc. Effectively she won the green Jersey but did it as a woman. I know very little about horses so I'm sure others could set me right but that's the jist of it.

    Fair enough. Personally I can't stand the sport and would never give an award to someone who sits on an animal who does most of the work over one powering the bike or taking the punches.

    I understand she is breaking gender barriers and that is great but even the fact that the gender of the person sitting on the horse was a thing just makes the sport more ludicrous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    dublin49 wrote: »
    Would Sam not be winning without Morkov??

    I think there are 2 things here - it seems that no sprinter wins as much after leaving DQS, there's clearly something about the team that enables sprinters to perform at such a high level. I imagine that's about more than just Morkov right now although he's clearly a factor in Sam's success too.

    Then there's Sam's confidence which I think both him and the team talked about a lot last year. He needed to start believing that he truly can be the best, which I think he's getting closer to now. The tour must have been huge for him in that context, first to win stages (especially in Paris) but also to be able to take on and beat Sagan for green. That has to help then with things that others have mentioned, such as his old habits of jumping too soon etc.

    tldr; imo the team helps hugely, while they've also helped him to develop as a sprinter :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Muller_1


    great podcast with Sam on Geraint Thomas Cycling Club https://open.spotify.com/episode/1fNsE7ejC1XjxxefepyTyK?si=uNkN-WeHT2qp2DLZxfsnNQ


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