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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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    #92
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Penfailed wrote: »
    I would've thought that pop up vaccination centres would get broad support...
    arctictree wrote: »
    He means pop up test centres. We are a long way from pop up vaccination centres in this country...

    why would a non sick person get tested if those numbers only serve to ramp up NPHETS monster erection for more lockdowns and more relevance for them?
    It's sounds bizarre but to get tested if you aren't sick is unpatriotic and an insult to your fellow man as it only feeds Mehole and whatever mental illness he is suffering.
    Penfailed wrote: »
    It doesn't require everyone to adhere to them. This has been explained on this thread numerous times now. I'm surprised you missed it. Obviously, the more people follow the restrictions, the better.

    I know what you are saying but I can't agree.
    Holding people apart via restrictions will only cause mass infections when people do meet. It's all for nothing a wasted endeavor that is costing so much - it's unquantifiable how much this is costing.

    Despite large compliance pre 2021 we still have approx. 230k positives which could be in reality up to a million - given asymptomatics who don't get tested and for periods how hard it was to get an actual test. Remember you needed to have 3 symptoms ? It still spreads which makes sense as its airborne.


    Finally the days of arguing about killer covid (and stats) are done and many people don't want to be protected anymore - they want to live and accept the risk (which is minimal) . Our current existence is a load of bollocks and no protection is worth that.
    It was absolutely pathetic how many people willingly gave up their lives and personal freedom for it in the 1st place but at least the tide is turning, better late than never.


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    #93
    Boggles
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    shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

    Personally I think covid was an extremely small inconvenience compared with what's likely going to happen the global weather patterns in the summer as a consequence of this.

    There is speculation that the tidal shift and resultant polar ice cap damage they cause will start another pandemic.

    Well, at least it will stop people moaning about not being allowed go to the beach, I see hiking becoming more popular though.


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    #94
    JPup
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    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Are you comparing flu to covid ?

    To be fair, for children the risks are very similar (ie almost zero).


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    #95
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Not yet Fintan, nearly there. A bit of a premature relaxation

    Pro rata population we’ve a significant number of vulnerable with the first jab.

    They started early 30s kidney recipients this week.

    A significant number of vulnerable are done

    By April 5th another few thousand will be done

    The curve is no more. The vaccination flattened it.

    The hospital numbers will be unlikely to rise significantly ever again


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    #96
    Boggles
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    paw patrol wrote: »
    It's sounds bizarre but to get tested if you aren't sick is unpatriotic and an insult to your fellow man as it only feeds Mehole and whatever mental illness he is suffering.

    "Patriots Don't Do Tests"

    I see t-shirts, hoodies and bumper stickers.

    Genius.


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    #97
    suicide_circus
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    The latest HSE scandal available on RTE website - trust the HSE!


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    #98
    OwenM
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    Graham wrote: »
    Didn't hospitalisations go up last week?

    By a tiny margin and they are back down again to the prior level.

    cv.jpg


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    #99
    facehugger99
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    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Why?

    The vulnerable are vaccinated, the HCWs are vaccinated

    Case numbers are fast becoming irrelevant and these clowns are opening more places to tell people who aren’t sick that they are sick

    310 in hospital last night, a number of which are there for containment not treatment

    This thing is finished

    We just need to convince NPHET

    Unfortunately this would require a Government with a set of balls and the best interests of the country at heart.

    Instead we have a set of sniveling cowards whose only priority is to protect themselves from any blame.


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    #100
    Kitty6277
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    MadYaker wrote: »
    That’s a bit silly OP because more people ignoring restrictions will mean they last longer and potentially get tighter, at least until enough people are vaccinated. If you want restrictions to end you should be doing everything you can to bring case numbers down, ignoring restrictions does the opposite. This is simple enough stuff surely?

    That's the thing though, for those of us following restrictions it feels equally as pointless. I've barely left the house since Christmas, haven't met up with people, haven't travelled more than 5km away from home, and yet we're still getting nowhere. I don't feel like there's any end in sight and honestly at this point I don't entirely blame people for saying fuck it and breaking restrictions.


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    #101
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Boggles wrote: »
    "Patriots Don't Do Tests"

    I see t-shirts, hoodies and bumper stickers.

    Genius.

    I'd miss your unique and obscure take on posts, so please never stop posting.

    What Tom Parlon texting you this morning? Is there so much construction on the go - they had to ship over a load of north korean slave labour?


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    #102
    Stormyteacup
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    This from The Journal, along with Harris supposedly quite optimistic on Newstalk.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/hospital-figures-coronavirus-ireland-2-5391121-Mar2021/

    Interesting there are apparently no concerns if cases stay below 1,500 per day. Not attributed to anyone as a quote, but hopefully it is ‘understood’.

    ‘It is understood that clusters in schools are being monitored closely by government and no concerns have been flagged as long as case numbers stay below 1,000 to 1,500 per day’


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    #103
    Boggles
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    paw patrol wrote: »
    I'd miss your unique and obscure take on posts, so please never stop posting.

    What Tom Parlon texting you this morning? Is there so much construction on the go - they had to ship over a load of north korean slave labour?

    Yes it's my take that is obscure.


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    #104
    [Deleted User]
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    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Are you comparing flu to covid ?

    Yes, in a way. I’m saying that Covid is much, much less harmful to school-aged children than flu is.

    Demonstrably.

    Did I stutter?


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    #105
    [Deleted User]
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    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Pro rata population we’ve a significant number of vulnerable with the first jab.

    They started early 30s kidney recipients this week.

    A significant number of vulnerable are done

    By April 5th another few thousand will be done

    The curve is no more. The vaccination flattened it.

    The hospital numbers will be unlikely to rise significantly ever again

    I would say, its a touch early to call that, In four weeks time we will be in a great place, in my opinion


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    #106
    ninebeanrows
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    Does anybody else curse at the radio when that hold firm ad comes on or is it just me!?

    :(


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    #107
    LameBeaver
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    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    Does anybody else curse at the radio when that hold firm ad comes on or is it just me!?

    :(

    It`s just you chief.


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    #108
    [Deleted User]
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    The latest HSE scandal available on RTE website - trust the HSE!

    DOH not the HSE.

    Was a disgusting thing to do by the way, lest I be accused of being an apologist


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    #109
    the kelt
    Registered Users Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭the kelt


    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    Does anybody else curse at the radio when that hold firm ad comes on or is it just me!?

    :(

    Oh yeah, straight to the volume button.

    One thing i have to say though i have never listened to as many podcasts in my life than i have in the last year.

    Just cant listen to the radio anymore as you cant escape "The Pandemic" so on with the podcasts any time im driving or even when working at home.

    Id recommend it, turn off the tv, turn off the radio.

    Currently listening about Violet Gibson, crazy Irish woman who shot Mussolini, mad stuff!


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    #110
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    LameBeaver wrote: »
    It`s just you chief.

    nah , i do too - while lamenting the absolute state of the nation rules by fear and panic.Gimps who give up everything to feel safe while in reality the government cant keep you safe at all.


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    #111
    LameBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭LameBeaver


    paw patrol wrote: »
    why would a non sick person get tested if those numbers only serve to ramp up NPHETS monster erection for more lockdowns and more relevance for them?
    It's sounds bizarre but to get tested if you aren't sick is unpatriotic and an insult to your fellow man as it only feeds Mehole and whatever mental illness he is suffering.

    .
    It`s unpatriotic to get tested if you don`t feel sick? What sort of gobbledegook is this? And you believe that Micheal Martin is suffering from a mental illness? Are you a mental health expert chief?


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    #112
    Sobit1964
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    Stormyteacup wrote: »
    This from The Journal, along with Harris supposedly quite optimistic on Newstalk.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/hospital-figures-coronavirus-ireland-2-5391121-Mar2021/

    Interesting there are apparently no concerns if cases stay below 1,500 per day. Not attributed to anyone as a quote, but hopefully it is ‘understood’.

    ‘It is understood that clusters in schools are being monitored closely by government and no concerns have been flagged as long as case numbers stay below 1,000 to 1,500 per day’

    This would be some joined up thinking. This is great if true, late, but a big improvement on the way numbers are dealt with.


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    #113
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    Does anybody else curse at the radio when that hold firm ad comes on or is it just me!?

    :(

    Don’t listen to Pat Kenny

    Or the radio will end up on the hard shoulder


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    #114
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    LameBeaver wrote: »
    It`s unpatriotic to get tested if you don`t feel sick? What sort of gobbledegook is this?

    I clearly explained my reasoning - maybe you need to re-read the post
    LameBeaver wrote: »
    And you believe that Micheal Martin is suffering from a mental illness? Are you a mental health expert chief?

    I can look out the window and see that it's raining. I don't need to be meteorologist. The notion that people need expert opinion to describe what is on front of them is a pathetic servile attitude to living your life. Trust your experience, instinct and common sense , it has carried your genes this far in evolution.


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    #115
    facehugger99
    Registered Users Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yes, in a way. I’m saying that Covid is much, much less harmful to school-aged children than flu is.

    Demonstrably.

    Did I stutter?

    Remember when the Mods used to card people for posting the truth?


    That aged well.


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    #116
    LameBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭LameBeaver


    paw patrol wrote: »
    nah , i do too - while lamenting the absolute state of the nation rules by fear and panic.Gimps who give up everything to feel safe while in reality the government cant keep you safe at all.

    You should talk to Joe about it."Gimps" eh? And you stated in a previous post that NPHET had a "monster erection" for lockdowns. Very curious choice of phrase...........


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    #117
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    LameBeaver wrote: »
    You should talk to Joe about it."Gimps" eh? And you stated in a previous post that NPHET had a "hard on" for lockdowns. Very curious choice of phrase...........

    don't be curious anymore....
    I said it for effect and to humour myself.
    sometimes its the simple answers


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    #118
    facehugger99
    Registered Users Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    the kelt wrote: »
    Oh yeah, straight to the volume button.

    One thing i have to say though i have never listened to as many podcasts in my life than i have in the last year.

    Just cant listen to the radio anymore as you cant escape "The Pandemic" so on with the podcasts any time im driving or even when working at home.

    Id recommend it, turn off the tv, turn off the radio.

    Currently listening about Violet Gibson, crazy Irish woman who shot Mussolini, mad stuff!

    I gave up listening to Irish radio about 6 years ago.

    I realized that most current affairs programming was not about informing you on certain topics, it was specifically designed around triggering people to get either outraged or frightened.

    I used to spend over 3 hours a day commuting and it's not healthy to be fed that ****e as you engage in an already stressful activity, like driving through Dublin traffic.

    Switched to podcasts and audio books and the only radio I listed to in BBC. - it's far better for your mental health.


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    #119
    [Deleted User]
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    paw patrol wrote: »
    I clearly explained my reasoning - maybe you need to re-read the post



    I can look out the window and see that it's raining. I don't need to be meteorologist. The notion that people need expert opinion to describe what is on front of them is a pathetic servile attitude to living your life. Trust your experience, instinct and common sense , it has carried your genes this far in evolution.

    What has got the human race to where it is is not just genes, it is shared knowledge. No individual can hold all the knowledge required to make "common sense" judgements on the myriad of complex issues that make up an advanced society. That's why we have specialists.

    Common senses is only common sense if you have the tools required to make that judgement. With common sense only the world is flat


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    #120
    ypres5
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    Just saw now that one quarter of the us population have been given their first dose of the covid vaccine. The eu need to pick up the pace because between america and britain we're going to get left behind


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    #121
    Corby Trouser Press
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    This is the biggest inequality of them all, in my opinion. How it hasn't been made into a much bigger story, i do not know.

    The Construction restrictions are, in my biased opinion, the least effective and most economically damaging measure of all.

    There are approx 57k construction sector workers on PUP at the moment.

    The construction of private housing and commercial office projects has been on pause for 11 weeks now.

    The sector accounted for just 0.6% of outbreaks in the period Sep-Dec 2020.

    It is almost unfathomable that we are here now with the clocks about to go forward and still there is doubt about reopening on April 5th.

    Somehow allowing the building of houses and other "non-essential" projects has been linked to keeping Schools open, relaxing the 5km limit, access to sports training, etc.

    No other country has made such a ludicrous distinction.

    A building site is a workplace.
    A workplace that requires physical attendance.
    A workplace that does not involve interaction with the public.

    A roof over your head is about the most essential need there is but we have managed to put a huge barrier in front of it this year.


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