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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #9602
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    covidrelease wrote: »
    What kind of a ridiculous statement is that?

    When there was ~8000 cases a day people responded and yesterday there was just 371 cases.

    How do you think that happened?
    Where we stand now is that they are very pleased with that effort but are equally reluctant to agree to relaxing restrictions off these current numbers. At the same time they may well accept that they have no option to agree to changes with compliance falling, hence the ongoing "do a little better" barracking.


  • #9603
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    TobyHolmes wrote: »
    sorry - what has everyone been doing for the past year.

    stop blaming the population for bad policy making
    look at US - some of the population are complete ijiots but there the country is over 100 million people vaccinated and people have curvews as opposed to lockdown.
    meanwhile here in ireland - us ijiots cant even go more than 5km and we are being told its becuase you are not behaving
    spare me the catholic pious guilt we are all supposed to have

    Cases are rising over the last few weeks. If people were buying into the restrictions I would imagine that they wouldnt have stalled.

    I know it's hard to buy in for so long but if we dont I can't see there being change.

    Mobility and interactions has definitely increased since January. At that time average close contacts for each case was less than 2. As of last Thursday it was just less than 3.

    Cases over the last 7 days are up on the previous 7 days.


  • #9604
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Cases are rising over the last few weeks. If people were buying into the restrictions I would imagine that they wouldnt have stalled.

    I know it's hard to buy in for so long but if we dont I can't see there being change.

    Mobility and interactions has definitely increased since January. At that time average close contacts for each case was less than 2. As of last Thursday it was just less than 3.

    Cases over the last 7 days are up on the previous 7 days.


    No reason not to allow an easing 3 weeks ago, construction could have gone back, like the rest of the world, click and collect non essential retail, own county travel etc.

    Unfortunately, due to the incompetence of the government and NPHET they failed to accept the effort people made and have gone and pissed everybody off.

    If cases are rising its due to incompetence.


  • #9605
    TobyHolmes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭TobyHolmes


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Cases are rising over the last few weeks. If people were buying into the restrictions I would imagine that they wouldnt have stalled.

    I know it's hard to buy in for so long but if we dont I can't see there being change.

    Mobility and interactions has definitely increased since January. At that time average close contacts for each case was less than 2. As of last Thursday it was just less than 3.

    Cases over the last 7 days are up on the previous 7 days.


    reality is this is the best they are going to get from people so they (the government who we have hired to represent our collective interests) have to come up with an option other than keeping us locked up until we are all vaccinated. as at this rate it will be another year. and i guarantee we will have lost half of our minds by then.


  • #9606
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    TobyHolmes wrote: »
    reality is this is the best they are going to get from people so they (the government who we have hired to represent our collective interests) have to come up with an option other than keeping us locked up until we are all vaccinated. as at this rate it will be another year. and i guarantee we will have lost half of our minds by then.


    Sadly we are dealing with incompetence on a grand scale, with no understanding of human nature.


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  • #9607
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,281 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Late May or early June when a sufficient amount of the population is vaccinated to drive transmission down or when the population buys into restrictions and actually drives cases down.

    Buys in ? We have bought in for a full year now and waiting for the Government to buy in to their part . So no the public wont buy in for much longer and honestly can anyone blame them ?


  • #9608
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Buys in ? We have bought in for a full year now and waiting for the Government to buy in to their part . So no the public wont buy in for much longer and honestly can anyone blame them ?


    The 5K rule was brought in when we were at 8000 cases a day, from June 29th until after Christmas we go by with a mixture of own county and nationwide travel.

    As soon as cases went below 1000 a day it should have been abolished.

    Construction should have been left open like the rest of the world.


  • #9609
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    covidrelease wrote: »
    The 5K rule was brought in when we were at 8000 cases a day, from June 29th until after Christmas we go by with a mixture of own county and nationwide travel.

    As soon as cases went below 1000 a day it should have been abolished.

    Construction should have been left open like the rest of the world.

    1000 cases a day is not an acceptable level of disease in the community.

    Hell the hospitals aren't back to full normal service and urgent elective procedures are still not back to normal.


  • #9610
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,837 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Buys in ? We have bought in for a full year now and waiting for the Government to buy in to their part . So no the public wont buy in for much longer and honestly can anyone blame them ?

    Everyone should open their businesses on the same day. They can't arrest everyone. The virus will outlive the economy.


  • #9611
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Idjit wrote: »
    This is my exact situation and why I'm going to attend my local walk in testing centre. I was in my office with a colleague on Friday who started feeling ill and has since tested positive, HSE don't consider me a close contact because I wasn't within two meters of him for more than 15 minutes... But we were breathing the same air all day.

    I rang my gp to arrange a test for my own peace of mind and was basically told if the HSE don't consider me a close contact and I have no symptoms then they can't help me.

    So for situations like these I'm grateful they've arranged the pop up centres.

    You have valid points tbf. A lot if people were not tested or diagnosed due to not having a specific set of symptoms at the beginning of the pandemic .

    On the new walk in test centres
    No GP appointment will be needed, or fee will apply, for anyone using the new walk-in Covid-19 test centres that are being created to target areas where positive cases are particularly high.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0324/1205829-coronavirus-ireland/


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  • #9612
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    1000 cases a day is not an acceptable level of disease in the community.

    Hell the hospitals aren't back to full normal service and urgent elective procedures are still not back to normal.

    What are you on about?

    Relaxing the 5K rule (say to own county) and opening construction wouldn't make any difference to the numbers.


  • #9613
    TobyHolmes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭TobyHolmes


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    1000 cases a day is not an acceptable level of disease in the community.

    Hell the hospitals aren't back to full normal service and urgent elective procedures are still not back to normal.


    its a virus that hippity hoppity hops from one person to another
    so whether we are in ireland, us, spain, UK - its going to hippity hoppity hopping
    and yet... look where we are and where these other countries are
    its down to bad policies


  • #9614
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Decision not before Tuesday says Leo.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0324/1205761-coronavirus-ireland/


  • #9615
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    TobyHolmes wrote: »
    virus not disease
    its a virus that hippity hoppity hops from one person to another
    so whether we are in ireland, us, spain, UK - its going to hippity hoppity hopping
    and yet... look where we are and where these other countries are
    its down to bad policies

    Incompetence and a total failure to accept they are making mistakes, just keep saying "new variation" "we are dealing with a new virus" to frighten people.


  • #9616
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,748 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    The 5km rule is up there with some of the most stupid unscientific nonsense I’ve seen yet:

    1. It crams people in urban areas and rams limited urban green space full
    2. It discourages safe outdoor activities and in some cases substitutes them with unsafe ones (I can’t go to the beach so I’ll call to my mates house)
    3. It costs a fortune in Garda overtime, delaying essential workers and in the case of fixed checkpoints, is fruitless because it’s easily evaded (Example: there’s a fixed checkpoint on the N71 in Cork. Coming from West Cork, you can turn onto a side road 500m before the checkpoint, divert on a country road for 2km or so and reappear on the N40 South Ring Road, which is where the N71 ultimately ends anyway).
    4. It’s easily evaded by anyone with a letter or driving in a marked van (yes Garda I am a nurse in UHK and I live in Limerick. I’m definitely not using my badge to go to a house party in Limerick well outside the 5km radius of my house in Tralee.)

    The whole thing should be scrapped.


  • #9617
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    681

    18 deaths


  • #9618
    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 778 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Think I just heard 680 or 681 cases, 18 deaths. Only vaguely listening to the news


  • #9619
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    EVERYONE PANIC


  • #9620
    Sobit1964
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    1000 cases a day is not an acceptable level of disease in the community.

    Hell the hospitals aren't back to full normal service and urgent elective procedures are still not back to normal.

    Once the vulnerable are vaccinated it can be 10k cases a day of sniffles - it wont matter one jot.

    There is no point testing once the vulnerable are vaccinated.


  • #9621
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    marno21 wrote: »
    The 5km rule is up there with some of the most stupid unscientific nonsense I’ve seen yet:

    1. It crams people in urban areas and rams limited urban green space full
    2. It discourages safe outdoor activities and in some cases substitutes them with unsafe ones (I can’t go to the beach so I’ll call to my mates house)
    3. It costs a fortune in Garda overtime, delaying essential workers and in the case of fixed checkpoints, is fruitless because it’s easily evaded (Example: there’s a fixed checkpoint on the N71 in Cork. Coming from West Cork, you can turn onto a side road 500m before the checkpoint, divert on a country road for 2km or so and reappear on the N40 South Ring Road, which is where the N71 ultimately ends anyway).
    4. It’s easily evaded by anyone with a letter or driving in a marked van (yes Garda I am a nurse in UHK and I live in Limerick. I’m definitely not using my badge to go to a house party in Limerick well outside the 5km radius of my house in Tralee.)

    The whole thing should be scrapped.

    Yeah agree with that. It keeps nice people in nice areas and not so nice people in not so nice areas which is probably the point of it.

    NIMBYISM on steroids but with people.


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  • #9622
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    681 cases. Didn’t catch deaths


  • #9623
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    Once the vulnerable are vaccinated it can be 10k cases a day of sniffles - it wont matter one jot.

    There is no point testing once the vulnerable are vaccinated.

    But 45% of hospital cases during the January surge under 55 gives a good idea of how much vaccination you need for cases not to matter.


  • #9624
    Batattackrat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭Batattackrat


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    1000 cases a day is not an acceptable level of disease in the community.

    Hell the hospitals aren't back to full normal service and urgent elective procedures are still not back to normal.

    In your own little world the government have done no wrong and all the blame should go on the people is it? Just like the people are going to have to pay for all this when it's over because the government didn't have the right policies in place like mandatory quarantine. Give me a break.


  • #9625
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Gael23 wrote: »
    681 cases. Didn’t catch deaths

    For the record this compares to 557 last week showing a slow but steady drift upwards in case numbers.


  • #9626
    TobyHolmes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭TobyHolmes


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yeah agree with that. It keeps nice people in nice areas and not so nice people in not so nice areas which is probably the point of it.

    NIMBYISM on steroids but with people.


    nice angle - didnt think of that....
    now gets me thinking
    hmmmmmmmmm


  • #9627
    Normal One
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭Normal One


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    For the record this compares to 557 last week showing a slow but steady drift upwards in case numbers.

    It isn't steady, as seen in yesterday's numbers.


  • #9628
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,505 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Same few counties leading the way

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1374782942774493199?s=19


  • #9629
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,748 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    But 45% of hospital cases during the January surge under 55 gives a good idea of how much vaccination you need for cases not to matter.

    Do we have a breakdown of admissions/hospital acquired infections for that number ?


  • #9630
    TobyHolmes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭TobyHolmes


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    EVERYONE PANIC


    :pac: The horse has already bolted


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  • #9631
    Sobit1964
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    But 45% of hospital cases during the January surge under 55 gives a good idea of how much vaccination you need for cases not to matter.

    Under 55 is a stupid way of grouping people. Whats wrong with splitting out by decade?

    Lazy approach by useless leaders, which has led to posts like yours which factually might be correct, but tell no one anything.


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