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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #9512
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Wonder which variant they are talking about. The UK one has been here since December. Why the need for targeted local testing? Might be to find the S.A or P.1 variant like the UK did. Would be great if they show the geographic spread of the newer variants as you might be able to see if that's what's driving it. One walk in Tullomore. De Gascon said before Christmas the UK one is only a tiny percentage of cases and a month later said it was 90% of cases so locality matters.

    https://twitter.com/merrionstreet/status/1374721365819981825?s=20


  • #9513
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,100 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    As I mentioned yesterday, anecdotally there are now non covid colds running through childcare / school settings, certainly in Cork, so this could be skewing this data. As I understand it last month covid was the most likely reason for any covid symptoms but not now.

    Yeah definitely colds amongst schoolchildren in Cork

    Friends daughter got tested on Monday

    Thankfully negative

    7 in the class tested but all negative


  • #9514
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    The messaging continues to pave the way for very few changes to the current restrictions come April 5th.


  • #9515
    Nqp15hhu
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    137 cases and 0 deaths here in Northern Ireland.


  • #9516
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    137 cases and 0 deaths here in Northern Ireland.

    What are the conditions on the ground please?

    Obviously restrictions are in place but in reality are there now widescale gatherings in houses, and everybody mixing far and wide?


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  • #9517
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,421 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    The messaging continues to pave the way for very few changes to the current restrictions come April 5th.

    God forbid they try and get the most up to date info before making a call


  • #9518
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    RebelButtMunch wrote: »
    God forbid they try and get the most up to date info before making a call

    It's not that, it's the fact they're leaking like an old bucket. It's not the way the leaders of the country should conduct themselves.


  • #9519
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    11521323 wrote: »
    It's not that, it's the fact they're leaking like an old bucket. It's not the way the leaders of the country should conduct themselves.

    Agreed. They should have learned by now to stop trying to out do each other with leaking the announcement.


  • #9520
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,210 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Colm McCarthy wrote in last weekend's Sunday Indo that only admission to hospital for treatment prevents younger people from dying of Covid in larger numbers.

    He referred to the fear that exists in many continental countries - that hospital capacity is being approached and can't be quickly expanded and treatment may not be available for people who would survive if admitted. He described this fear as the nightmare that was seen in northern Italy during the first wave and believes it was avoided in Ireland last January by a small margin than we imagine.
    Everyone becomes vulnerable if the hospitals cannot admit people.

    What I have quoted from him doesn't appear to make sense - if you're not vulnerable, infection with SARS-CoV-2 won't cause you to need hospitalisation.


  • #9521
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    political analyst wrote: »
    Colm McCarthy wrote in last weekend's Sunday Indo that only admission to hospital for treatment prevents younger people from dying of Covid in larger numbers.

    He referred to the fear that exists in many continental countries - that hospital capacity is being approached and can't be quickly expanded and treatment may not be available for people who would survive if admitted. He described this fear as the nightmare that was seen in northern Italy during the first wave and believes it was avoided in Ireland last January by a small margin than we imagine.

    What I have quoted from him doesn't appear to make sense - if you're not vulnerable, infection with SARS-CoV-2 won't cause you to need hospitalisation.

    Yeah, he's pretty correct. "Vulnerable" to Covid means 2 very different things depending on whether you're talking about population at risk of death versus population at risk of needed hospitalisation (probably at least 10x difference, full order of magnitude).

    I know a handful of people who have died because of Covid, but I know quite a lot of people who were briefly hospitalised so they could receive supplementary oxygen etc. They weren't necessarily hugely serious cases, but may have become them if we ran out of hospital capacity.

    We thankfully didn't run out of capacity for these sort of cases in January, though we weren't very far away. Expanding capacity to treat these cases though did mean we had to shut down other services (cancer etc.) that will probably have detrimental effects.


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  • #9522
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Concerns over strain of Covid detected in Carrick on Suir school


    http://tippfm.com/news/coronavirus/concerns-strain-covid-detected-carrick-suir-school/
    In an email sent to parents – which has been seen by Tipp FM – the HSE says that the strain detected in Carrick is a variant of concern although they say they are not aware if it’s more dangerous but they are calling on people to take extra measures to stop the further spread.

    Despite this, students who have NOT been identified as close contacts, have been deemed safe to return and Tipp FM understands that the majority of students who are deemed close contacts to the confirmed cases are expected to receive their first Covid test tomorrow.




    ** insert Comical Ali picture here, etc **


  • #9523
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    ShineOn7 wrote: »


    http://tippfm.com/news/coronavirus/concerns-strain-covid-detected-carrick-suir-school/


    ** insert Comical Ali picture here, etc **

    Schools getting hit hard with Community Transmission


  • #9524
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Schools getting hit hard with Community Transmission


    Crazy eh?

    Those pesky School household outbreaks


  • #9525
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,329 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Last point is interesting.

    https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1374733530715070470


  • #9526
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    Amirani wrote: »
    Yeah, he's pretty correct. "Vulnerable" to Covid means 2 very different things depending on whether you're talking about population at risk of death versus population at risk of needed hospitalisation (probably at least 10x difference, full order of magnitude).

    I know a handful of people who have died because of Covid, but I know quite a lot of people who were briefly hospitalised so they could receive supplementary oxygen etc. They weren't necessarily hugely serious cases, but may have become them if we ran out of hospital capacity.

    We thankfully didn't run out of capacity for these sort of cases in January, though we weren't very far away. Expanding capacity to treat these cases though did mean we had to shut down other services (cancer etc.) that will probably have detrimental effects.

    You personally know 4 or 5 people who have died from Covid and you also know 'a lot of people who have been hospitalised due to covid.. aha you must have giggled typing that.


  • #9527
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Looks like the NI vaccine loophole to be closed

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0323/1205728-northern-ireland-vaccinations/


  • #9528
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,409 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    You personally know 4 or 5 people who have died from Covid and you also know 'a lot of people who have been hospitalised due to covid.. aha you must have giggled typing that.

    Not that strange. I know 4 who died and at least 5 who were hospitalised (2 in ICU for over a month).


  • #9529
    celt262
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,804 ✭✭✭celt262


    gozunda wrote: »
    Looks like the NI vaccine loophole to be closed

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0323/1205728-northern-ireland-vaccinations/

    RTE are slow on the ball or just re dating articles because i read that yesterday or the day before.


  • #9530
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,210 ✭✭✭political analyst


    ShineOn7 wrote: »


    http://tippfm.com/news/coronavirus/concerns-strain-covid-detected-carrick-suir-school/






    ** insert Comical Ali picture here, etc **

    If the closure of schools had been effective it would've meant the end of this lockdown by the middle of last month at the latest. However, after 2 months of that closure, most businesses are still not being allowed to re-open. For pupils whose parents' businesses are in jeopardy, exams are probably the least of their concerns.


  • #9531
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    celt262 wrote: »
    RTE are slow on the ball or just re dating articles because i read that yesterday or the day before.

    Did you post about it? haven't seen it being discussed here anyway.


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  • #9532
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Not that strange. I know 4 who died and at least 5 who were hospitalised (2 in ICU for over a month).

    Were the 4 who died all old and ill anyway or were they young and healthy with no medical conditions of note?

    I know three really old people, 2 terminally ill with cancer, the other with a lot of issues and got covid in hospital, they all died.

    I know another 78 yo who died who was reasonably healthy for his age.

    Of those 4 I would say 1, at best, died of covid.


  • #9533
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,227 ✭✭✭✭fits


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Yeah definitely colds amongst schoolchildren in Cork

    Friends daughter got tested on Monday

    Thankfully negative

    7 in the class tested but all negative


    We have had it too. Very short headcolds with the 4yos. Husband got it too and tested - not detected.

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  • #9534
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,409 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    covidrelease wrote: »
    Were the 4 who died all old and ill anyway or were they young and healthy with no medical conditions of note?

    I know three really old people, 2 terminally ill with cancer, the other with a lot of issues and got covid in hospital, they all died.

    I know another 78 yo who died who was reasonably healthy for his age.

    Of those 4 I would say 1, at best, died of covid.

    "Old" becomes subjective as we age ourselves (I'm a young 62 year old)

    They ranged from 83 (with health issues) to 56 with no issues. Three of them were living full and active lives until they contracted Covid.


  • #9535
    celt262
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,804 ✭✭✭celt262


    gozunda wrote: »
    Did you post about it? haven't seen it being discussed here anyway.

    I think it was here that i see it cant be sure though.


  • #9536
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,398 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Timmy O Toole wrote:
    You personally know 4 or 5 people who have died from Covid and you also know 'a lot of people who have been hospitalised due to covid.. aha you must have giggled typing that.
    I don't know anybody that died but I know more than ten people who have been in hospital with covid, three of them in ICU. Two of those that were in ICU were close the the 50 mark, one with only Asthma the other with no.underlying conditions. One of them has long covid now, on oxygen all the time, I haven't heard anything from the other guy since he got out if hospital five weeks ago but he's not back at work and he's an essential worker.
    I live in a small town in rural Ireland but some of those who've had it live in different areas. Guy with long covid lives in Waterford. Another lives in Cork city but the majority are local.


  • #9537
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,227 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Two locals here in early sixties - both living full and active lives were in ICU for months but didn’t make it. Another in his thirties caught it last April was in ICU but survived. He’s still in rehab hospital as far as I know.

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  • #9538
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    You personally know 4 or 5 people who have died from Covid and you also know 'a lot of people who have been hospitalised due to covid.. aha you must have giggled typing that.

    Given both my partner and myself have worked in healthcare throughout the pandemic, and up to a third of cases were healthcare workers at certain points, it's not particularly surprising or "giggly", but glad you enjoyed it.


  • #9539
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,329 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Last point is interesting.

    https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1374733530715070470

    Anyone know the rationale for not being able to have symptoms to do the walk up tests? Is it about trying to pick up asymptomatic cases only or managing how many people are able to get one?


  • #9540
    Multipass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    I have 3 elderly relatives who have had it, one with serious underlying issues including COPD and cancer. All were only slightly ill, as were 2 adult children, their partners and their combined 5 children.


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  • #9541
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,282 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Amirani wrote: »
    Given both my partner and myself have worked in healthcare throughout the pandemic, and up to a third of cases were healthcare workers at certain points, it's not particularly surprising or "giggly", but glad you enjoyed it.

    Just a big Thank you both from me and my family . I really hope you both get a break soon .


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