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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #9452
    Sobit1964
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It is true that what we called the third wave was infact the delayed put on the second wave by the October Level 5. The likes of Italy are now entering the third wave and when the history of the pandemic is written it will be a double peak in the second wave for Ireland while the rest of the continent experience a more sustained second wave.

    There was a forth wave of Spanish Flu in 1920, two years after the first wave.

    The Russian Flu of the 1890's spread in 4 distinct waves over 5 years. Some now believe it was actually a coronavirus (endemic viris OC43 which now causes cold because we all have some resistance because we catch it young)

    Thanks that was informative!


  • #9453
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Has it not been just one continuous wave ?

    Stopping and starting due to lockdowns


  • #9454
    Locotastic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    Its disputed that there was even a 4th wave of the Spanish flu - has there ever been a serious fourth wave in a pandemic - or might this be a new thing due to the flattened curve only pushing deaths and infections to a later date?

    I had seen research previously, must have a look for it now, that indicated exactly this.

    In flattening the curve you don't actually prevent deaths from the disease, you simply prolong the duration to be slightly more controlled.

    With vaccine this will alter the outcome, but for that to happen they need to be vaccinating fast and in a larger scale.


  • #9455
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    I think you might be arguing with yourself. I agree with you trials aren't finished - its being tested.

    For the purposes of clarity, I hope that they pass with flying colors.

    They all received conditional approval which though acceptable in a risk to benefit pandemic may be only due to the absence of anything else. We could have seizures, people dropping dead with heart issues and strokes but as long as they say its less that what you see in the population, its ok. Im sure those 4 italian health workers would disagree. Also as they are brand new, these vaccines are still on trial and will be for years. The full data on trials has not been handed over and even then the EMA have them labelled for their eyes and the manufacturers only...


  • #9456
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    blowitupref wrote: »
    Hospital numbers as of 8pm

    In Hospital 325 (decrease of 17)
    In ICU 76 (decrease 4)

    1 death in hospital the last 24hrs

    Last Tuesday
    In hospital 349
    ICU 85


    Lowest 8pm total daily figure of 2021 so far.

    Previous lowest 331 Friday March 12th.


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  • #9457
    Nermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,879 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    We lock down everyone for over a year to protect mostly the old, frail and seriously ill. Then be expected to stay locked down while the people we were protecting are free to do as they like. Some chance.

    "We're all in this together"...


  • #9458
    TheMilkyPirate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Has it not been just one continuous wave ?

    Stopping and starting due to lockdowns

    My thinking as well


  • #9459
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,329 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Looks like European Commission going to announce some form of export ban. Likely on AZ vaccines. https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1374662340877164548?s=19


  • #9460
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Listening to Coveney on Newstalk. The difference in professionalism and clarity between him and Donnelly in answering the same questions is really remarkable


  • #9461
    Azatadine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Yeah, Coveney always comes across as one of our most able politicians.


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  • #9462
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,512 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Looks like European Commission going to announce some form of export ban. Likely on AZ vaccines. https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1374662340877164548?s=19

    Posted in the vaccine thread this morning, there seems to be a big misunderstanding as to what is actually being proposed.

    Its not an export ban, it widens the scope of what circumstances allow an export to be blocked by a member state. So far only 1 export has been blocked.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/commission-to-table-tougher-vaccine-export-rules/


  • #9463
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Posted in the vaccine thread this morning, there seems to be a big misunderstanding as to what is actually being proposed.

    Its not an export ban, it widens the scope of what circumstances allow an export to be blocked by a member state. So far only 1 export has been blocked.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/commission-to-table-tougher-vaccine-export-rules/

    So one EU export of 250k blocked to Australia, who have covid under control, meanwhile India blocked 5mil doses to the UK, who have a higher vaccination rate than India.
    EU is bad and India is good.


  • #9464
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,329 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Posted in the vaccine thread this morning, there seems to be a big misunderstanding as to what is actually being proposed.

    Its not an export ban, it widens the scope of what circumstances allow an export to be blocked by a member state. So far only 1 export has been blocked.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/commission-to-table-tougher-vaccine-export-rules/

    Hadn't seen the technicalities, cheers for that. Seems like a warning shot so at this stage.


  • #9465
    thelad95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Stephen Donnelly and Norma Foley must be the two most ineffectual ministers this country has ever had. They were handed the biggest poisoned chalices in the history of the state so I really don't envy them and I'm generally not of the "damn guberment disposition" but the way they've mucked up multiple decisions while their overall communication with the public is atrocious is genuinely baffling.

    Simon Harris (failed journalism student turned career politician) had way more class and finesse as a politician in his little finger than these two do together. And he said there were 18 previous Covids......

    Norma Foley patronising the public by saying schools were safe at a time when transmission was happening to the tune of five figures a day. No idea how to deal with the public or even gauge the mood of the public.


  • #9466
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,637 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Stephen Donnelly and Norma Foley must be the two most ineffectual ministers this country has ever had. They were handed the biggest poisoned chalices in the history of the state so I really don't envy them and I'm generally not of the "damn guberment disposition" but the way they've mucked up multiple decisions while their overall communication with the public is atrocious is genuinely baffling.

    Simon Harris (failed journalism student turned career politician) had way more class and finesse as a politician in his little finger than these two do together. And he said there were 18 previous Covids......

    I felt like what came from Simon Harris' mouth, you'd actually believe. With Stephen Donnelly i feel like he doesn't believe or know what he's on about.


  • #9467
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Simon was genuine. He might not have been great in the role but he cared about it and he cared about the public. Stephen is arrogant and cares about nobody only himself


  • #9468
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,250 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Azatadine wrote: »
    Yeah, Coveney always comes across as one of our most able politicians.

    A allie for Keelings and Goodman's meat plants too

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • #9469
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    retro:electro wrote: »
    Simon was genuine. He might not have been great in the role but he cared about it and he cared about the public. Stephen is arrogant and cares about nobody only himself

    Ya, one of the better things Harris did in lockdown 1 was the twitter videos, and he'd be reading out kids letters. It came across as genuine and made him look human. I don't particularly think he's a good politician but that was a nice touch I thought back then.


  • #9470
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,282 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    retro:electro wrote: »
    Simon was genuine. He might not have been great in the role but he cared about it and he cared about the public. Stephen is arrogant and cares about nobody only himself

    I really liked it when Simon spoke directly to children and acknowledged their worries and talked to them .No one else has ever done that and meant it


  • #9471
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    titan18 wrote: »
    Ya, one of the better things Harris did in lockdown 1 was the twitter videos, and he'd be reading out kids letters. It came across as genuine and made him look human. I don't particularly think he's a good politician but that was a nice touch I thought back then.

    He still does those on Instagram. He does live videos most evenings to check in with people and ask how they are. He’s a good person.


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  • #9472
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,250 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    retro:electro wrote: »
    Simon was genuine. He might not have been great in the role but he cared about it and he cared about the public. Stephen is arrogant and cares about nobody only himself

    I did feel somewhat more confident when Simon and Leo spoke about it than Stephen and Micheal now, Stephen Donnelly is way out of his league, Micheal was too eager to be Taoiseach he just jumped in unprepared

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • #9473
    Normal One
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭Normal One


    Donnolly is a spoofer. Listening to Coveney there on the radio, he's calm and assured but you can tell that if he doesn't know something, he won't bull**** you like the other fella does. He's probably biding his time, knowing that he'll be the Taoiseach soon enough whereas Donnolly is winging his way towards the magic pension pot.


  • #9474
    zuutroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    Can't believe people buy the schmaltz from Harris. So contrived.


  • #9475
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    blowitupref wrote: »
    Hospital numbers as of 8pm

    In Hospital 325 (decrease of 17)
    In ICU 76 (decrease 4)

    1 death in hospital the last 24hrs

    Last Tuesday
    In hospital 349
    ICU 85

    Gone back up to 357 as of 8am this morning.

    Confirmed cases - 357
    Total new confirmed cases - 25
    Discharges - 35

    No idea how with those numbers.


  • #9476
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    zuutroy wrote: »
    Can't believe people buy the schmaltz from Harris. So contrived.

    Even if it is schmaltz, he is better at at least trying to connect with people. To hold a position like Minister for Health you need to at least have the ability to even pretend to care about people. I don’t think Stephen has an empathetic bone in his body. He’s in it for what he can get out of it, not what he can give. I’m surprise he hasn’t spontaneously combust yet out of sheer pent up aggression


  • #9477
    Normal One
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭Normal One


    titan18 wrote: »
    Gone back up to 357 as of 8am this morning.

    Confirmed cases - 357
    Total new confirmed cases - 25
    Discharges - 35

    No idea how with those numbers.
    Is that from the Covid tracker app? I don't think that gets updated as regularly as it should, they were the 8am yesterday figures as far as I remember. The ICU number seems to change several times a day.


  • #9478
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    titan18 wrote: »
    Gone back up to 357 as of 8am this morning.

    Confirmed cases - 357
    Total new confirmed cases - 25
    Discharges - 35

    No idea how with those numbers.

    This morning's update hasn't happened yet, that's yesterday's number. They have been late with updates this week, for some reason.


  • #9479
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,250 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    titan18 wrote: »
    Gone back up to 357 as of 8am this morning.

    Confirmed cases - 357
    Total new confirmed cases - 25
    Discharges - 35

    No idea how with those numbers.

    :(

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • #9480
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1374686873931632640?s=20
    Five walk-in test centres to open tomorrow.

    Tallaght Stadium
    Irishtown Stadium
    Blanchardstown Centre - Mr Price Carpark.
    Grangegorman Primary Car Park
    Spollens Car Park, Tullamore

    Open to people within 5km of the centre.


    Thats good.


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  • #9481
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Normal One wrote: »
    Is that from the Covid tracker app? I don't think that gets updated as regularly as it should, they were the 8am yesterday figures as far as I remember. The ICU number seems to change several times a day.

    The geohive one. It says last updated today and 8am on the graph for hospital cases.

    Journal reported it too


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