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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #9362
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,484 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    Why do they always lie and make up a high death figure anytime the case numbers are low?

    Absolute criminals
    Take it to the Conspiracy Theories forum, otherwise you'll lose posting privileges


  • #9363
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,210 ✭✭✭political analyst


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Tuur Dierckx: Belgian footballer sentenced to one month in prison over lockdown party

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12254400/tuur-dierckx-belgian-footballer-sentenced-to-one-month-in-prison-over-lockdown-party?fbclid=IwAR2LvV-BYvywsCsmUcfvPvk6hm3BsjhGEOhaceUAEeVZR4MsfyXBT0-Ouc8

    In the article, there's a major qualification to that headline.
    According to Belgium's leading newspaper, Nieuwsblad, his club are not worried over the prospect of Dierckx missing matches as prison sentences of one month are usually not carried out.


  • #9364
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,708 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Id take off your hand for that but as we all know NPHET wont go for something as adventurous as that


    Even if they would, can you imagine the whining here about having to have a vaccine passport and how so and so had one because they work in the HSE and you don't have your appointment until next week and you can't go somewhere?


    But something like this is going to be needed. Denmark is a similar sized population and they've done better from the start.



    They need to agree on a scheme with NI, which will likely be impossible doing to the unionists wanting an English vaccine passport even though few enough people from England go to events or hairdressers in NI.


  • #9365
    Renault 5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Renault 5


    Marty Bird wrote: »
    Or completely off the chart on the worry index.

    Well they will be thinking and reflecting on the outdoor situation and outdoor activities and what might be possible.

    They won’t want to speculate beyond the next 6 weeks and may give a update then. But implementing based on what they decide will take another 6 weeks and they will review an hour before implementation in case they decide not to implement the implementation.


  • #9366
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    How can vaccine passports be introduced before every adult in the country is offered a vaccine at least ?


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  • #9367
    Locotastic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    Even if they would, can you imagine the whining here about having to have a vaccine passport and how so and so had one because they work in the HSE and you don't have your appointment until next week and you can't go somewhere?


    But something like this is going to be needed. Denmark is a similar sized population and they've done better from the start.



    They need to agree on a scheme with NI, which will likely be impossible doing to the unionists wanting an English vaccine passport even though few enough people from England go to events or hairdressers in NI.

    Wonder what will happen with children since they aren't going to be vaccinated and therefore won't have a vaccine passport/green pass?


  • #9368
    votecounts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭votecounts


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    I love how anti-vaxxers are getting locked out of things like concerts and travel

    It'll make both more enjoyable and full of decent people
    ]Its not just anti vaxxers, with the slowness of our rollout it will be 6 months before certain age groups are offered it.


  • #9369
    votecounts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭votecounts


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    How can vaccine passports be introduced before every adult in the country is offered a vaccine at least ?
    they shouldn't be until at least every adult has been offered the vaccine.


  • #9370
    gw80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭gw80


    Locotastic wrote: »
    Wonder what will happen with children since they aren't going to be vaccinated and therefore won't have a vaccine passport/green pass?

    Or people who cannot take a vaccine due to medical reasons,


  • #9371
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    How can vaccine passports be introduced before every adult in the country is offered a vaccine at least ?

    So your thinking is if everyone can't access / do certain nobody should be able to? Seems reasonable.


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  • #9372
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    gw80 wrote: »
    Or people who cannot take a vaccine due to medical reasons,

    Then those people are probably Not well enough to mix in large numbers With a pandemic

    It’s for their own good


  • #9373
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,941 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    votecounts wrote: »
    they shouldn't be until at least every adult has been offered the vaccine.

    Would you not like to see at least some people get back some normality?


  • #9374
    Tyrone212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    I love how anti-vaxxers are getting locked out of things like concerts and travel

    It'll make both more enjoyable and full of decent people

    I was thinking the other day if vaccine passports are required to go to the supermarket will they be joining the Sheep in the fields to eat grass?


  • #9375
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    blade1 wrote: »
    Would you not like to see at least some people get back some normality?

    Realistically tho, can you imagine they open everything up for those vaccinated and cut off 60% of the population. It’s working in Israel because if you wanna go somewhere that needs a pass, you swing by a vaccine centre and get jabbed, then off you go.

    Imagine opening a local pub and saying you need a pass to get in, but you can’t get a pass for a few more months. Who enforces it? Who deals with the absolute morons that assumed the €9 meal was something the government legitimately believed protected people? The people that said “hang on, so if I go 5.1km from my home I’ll get covid?! NPHET are idiots”

    There is no way it would ever work. The theory is fine but people are selfish and can’t seem to think further than a few hours ahead.


  • #9376
    Locotastic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Then those people are probably Not well enough to mix in large numbers With a pandemic

    It’s for their own good

    And children? What's your plan for them? They won't be getting vaccinated.


  • #9377
    Locotastic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    I was thinking the other day if vaccine passports are required to go to the supermarket will they be joining the Sheep in the fields to eat grass?

    Vaccine passports won't be required to go to the supermarket. Our local supermarkets are packed to the rafters nowadays, nobody cares now so they certainly won't care after mass vaccination.


  • #9378
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    “Fundamentally, we face a new virus of the same kind but with very different characteristics. More deadly, more infectious, and infectious for longer.”
    -Angela Merkel

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-idUSKBN2BF05L

    IS there any evidence to support this? It's something that's been stated by leaders in a few countries now but I've not yet seen it explained how this conclusion was arrived at. So far I've not heard any irish person in authority make claims of any characteristics other than it being more infectious. But leaders in Germany,UK, USA and Brazil have stated it is also more dangerous. Anyone know of any legit studies that verified the new strain is actually more dangerous?


  • #9379
    Tyrone212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    Locotastic wrote: »
    Vaccine passports won't be required to go to the supermarket. Our local supermarkets are packed to the rafters nowadays, nobody cares now so they certainly won't care after mass vaccination.

    It was a joke...


  • #9380
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    How can vaccine passports be introduced before every adult in the country is offered a vaccine at least ?

    We could do them the same way we do regular passports? i.e if your great granny is Irish you get one (like half of America)


  • #9381
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    We lock down everyone for over a year to protect mostly the old, frail and seriously ill. Then be expected to stay locked down while the people we were protecting are free to do as they like. Some chance.


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  • #9382
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    “Fundamentally, we face a new virus of the same kind but with very different characteristics. More deadly, more infectious, and infectious for longer.”
    -Angela Merkel

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-idUSKBN2BF05L

    IS there any evidence to support this? It's something that's been stated by leaders in a few countries now but I've not yet seen it explained how this conclusion was arrived at. Anyone know of any legit studies that verified the new strain is actually more dangerous?

    There was a study in the UK on higher mortality from the new strain published in the last week or so. Caveat emptor linked to it on this thread but I can't locate it right now. The new strain appears to be about 50% more deadly across all age groups and ethnicities. It was a pretty comprehensive study.


  • #9383
    Westernyelp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,413 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Timmy O Toole wrote:
    We lock down everyone for over a year to protect mostly the old, frail and seriously ill. Then be expected to stay locked down while the people we were protecting are free to do as they like. Some chance.


    Why not?


  • #9384
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    JTMan wrote: »
    The Irish government need a plan. Here is another potential template for them ...

    https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1374424144599687169

    Look, great if it works well for them, our countries like us can then copy them. Bit that reopening looks brave, at best, foolish at worst. We shouldn't assume that just because another (admittedly very well organised) country is doing something that they are doing the right thing. They aren't much ahead of us vaccine wise so it could all end in tears....


  • #9385
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Westernyelp wrote: »
    Why not?

    Because they didn't stay locked down when young healthy people could have been free to do what they like.


  • #9386
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,105 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Because they didn't stay locked down when young healthy people could have been free to do what they like.

    Many of them did follow the cocooning advice last spring and didnt even go to the shops or go beyond their front gate.

    Young healthy people doing whatever they want guarantees community transmission and then it is into hospitals and nursing homes and multigenerational households.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #9387
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    There was a study in the UK on higher mortality from the new strain published in the last week or so. Caveat emptor linked to it on this thread but I can't locate it right now. The new strain appears to be about 50% more deadly across all age groups and ethnicities. It was a pretty comprehensive study.

    Really? That's quite startling.
    I must try to find out more about that.


  • #9388
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,484 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Latest stats

    Schools Closed, Part 4 - 9,582
    Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX - 9,489
    Covid 19, Part XXXIII - 9,534

    Which one closes first - it's all in your hands


  • #9389
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Beasty wrote: »
    Latest stats

    Schools Closed, Part 4 - 9,582
    Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX - 9,489
    Covid 19, Part XXXIII - 9,534

    Which one closes first - it's all in your hands

    I would close them all, for good :D
    https://subscriptions.boards.ie/

    Hit the switch to keep the lights on.



  • #9390
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Westernyelp wrote: »
    Why not?

    Because people not likely to be vulnerable to the virus put their lives on hold for a year to help those vulnerable to it. Expecting them to keep doing so whilst the vulnerable get back on with life would be ludicrous.


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  • #9391
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,292 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Beasty wrote: »
    Latest stats

    Schools Closed, Part 4 - 9,582
    Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX - 9,489
    Covid 19, Part XXXIII - 9,534

    Which one closes first - it's all in your hands

    Can we close them all for a few days, kick back and pretend it’s 2019 :)


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