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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #8732
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    That Cavan idiot who is also a priest and said mass to 40 people in contravention of the law needs to be sent to the slammer for a year.
    Reckless idiots. Thank god we now live in a society that can call out idiot clergy without being burnt at the stake.

    He is a Westmeath idiot who happens to be located in a parish in Cavan.


  • #8733
    Hooked
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,948 ✭✭✭Hooked


    Renault 5 wrote: »
    Its really depressing that there are only 175,526 full vaccinated people in the country.

    Especially when you consider the UK did nearly 900,000 in 24 hours!!!


  • #8734
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    Renault 5 wrote: »
    To me, You are vaccinated when you get the second dose.

    I wouldn't count people who have received one dose as vaccinated. Unless they got the J&J.

    Thats just my opinion.

    So you wouldn't be particularly impressed by the UK vaccination progress?


  • #8735
    FlubberJones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    So far. We're ramping these vaccines up. Our issue is with supply, not actually vaccinating people.

    The supply needs to improve then get them vaccinating 12 hours a day, 7 days a week. The UK managed to vaccinate 500K in one day on the weekend... that is how you do it.

    All of my family in the UK have had at least one vaccination, half of them have had two.


  • #8736
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    My point is - we have half a million people vaccinated which is brilliant news. All healthcare and home care people done ie the most vulnerable.

    Potential to get 1m people done per month in April, May and June.

    We are coming out of this, just need to sit tight for another month or two. Every reason to be optimistic IMO.

    Too many fvcking doom merchants :rolleyes:


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  • #8737
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Akabusi wrote: »
    He is a Westmeath idiot who happens to be located in a parish in Cavan.
    So two counties maligned in one sentence! Nice one!


  • #8738
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    ek motor wrote: »
    You appear to be delusional , but at least you're happy!

    What exactly is delusional about the factual statements i made?


  • #8739
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    We are coming out of this, just need to sit tight for another month or two. Every reason to be optimistic IMO.

    The problem is, we've been told this more times that I can count at this stage, hence the pessimism and negativity. People can only hold firm for so long before they crumble.


  • #8740
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,539 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    My point is - we have half a million people vaccinated which is brilliant news. All healthcare and home care people done ie the most vulnerable.

    Potential to get 1m people done per month in April, May and June.

    We are coming out of this, just need to sit tight for another month or two. Every reason to be optimistic IMO.

    Too many fvcking doom merchants :rolleyes:

    im all for optimism but do you honestly think we will be vaccinating 1m a month from april, not a ****ing hope


  • #8741
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    What exactly is delusional about the factual statements i made?

    That you think our vaccination numbers are amazing. In an absolute sense, it's a good thing. Relative to the other rich countries in the world, it's a shambles.


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  • #8742
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    My point is - we have half a million people vaccinated which is brilliant news. All healthcare and home care people done ie the most vulnerable.

    Potential to get 1m people done per month in April, May and June.

    We are coming out of this, just need to sit tight for another month or two. Every reason to be optimistic IMO.

    Too many fvcking doom merchants :rolleyes:
    Don't know if it's people being doom merchants. 1m is a projection for now and we know how easily AZ can throw a spanner in the works. We were on for 1.4m this month, now a bit less. I hope that's how it works out but best laid plans and AZ, as they say!


  • #8743
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,887 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    My point is - we have half a million people vaccinated which is brilliant news. All healthcare and home care people done ie the most vulnerable.

    Potential to get 1m people done per month in April, May and June.

    We are coming out of this, just need to sit tight for another month or two. Every reason to be optimistic IMO.

    Too many fvcking doom merchants :rolleyes:

    It's 'better than nothing' news is all. The nonsense with AZ just cost a week.

    Some countries are far, far ahead like Israel, which is a smaller, densely populated country with enormous challenges, yet if we could travel there you could walk into a surgery or pharmacy (I think) and get a vaccine.

    To date, Irelands not managed 100k doses in a week. How will they do a million in April? Maybe with 24x7 vaccine centers and a huge mobilization of vaccinators, maybe.

    And the HSE can't even get the number of doses for Sneem correct. Why should we suddenly expect a million doses to show up on our shores on April 1 and get into a million arms in a couple weeks?


  • #8744
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    11521323 wrote: »
    That you think our vaccination numbers are amazing. In an absolute sense, it's a good thing. Relative to the other rich countries in the world, it's a shambles.

    I never said the numbers vaccinated were amazing - i meant the fact that we have vaccinated half a million people from a disease we didn't know existed just over a year ago.

    The COVID vaccines must be the single biggest medical breakthrough in the past 50 years.

    That is amazing.


  • #8745
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Igotadose wrote: »
    It's 'better than nothing' news is all. The nonsense with AZ just cost a week.

    Some countries are far, far ahead like Israel, which is a smaller, densely populated country with enormous challenges, yet if we could travel there you could walk into a surgery or pharmacy (I think) and get a vaccine.

    To date, Irelands not managed 100k doses in a week. How will they do a million in April? Maybe with 24x7 vaccine centers and a huge mobilization of vaccinators, maybe.

    And the HSE can't even get the number of doses for Sneem correct. Why should we suddenly expect a million doses to show up on our shores on April 1 and get into a million arms in a couple weeks?
    Ongoing nonsense with AZ has cost us a whole lot more regular rejigging of plans and we have done over 100K a week.


  • #8746
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    My point is - we have half a million people vaccinated which is brilliant news. All healthcare and home care people done ie the most vulnerable.

    Potential to get 1m people done per month in April, May and June.

    We are coming out of this, just need to sit tight for another month or two. Every reason to be optimistic IMO.

    Too many fvcking doom merchants :rolleyes:

    What was the target for q1 , 1.25 million ? We wont even get close to that . People are going to sceptical that the targets for q2 and q3 aren't going to be met.

    It will most certainly be more than a month or two before we reach a critical mass of vaccinations.


  • #8747
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Igotadose wrote: »
    It's 'better than nothing' news is all. The nonsense with AZ just cost a week.

    Some countries are far, far ahead like Israel, which is a smaller, densely populated country with enormous challenges, yet if we could travel there you could walk into a surgery or pharmacy (I think) and get a vaccine.

    To date, Irelands not managed 100k doses in a week. How will they do a million in April? Maybe with 24x7 vaccine centers and a huge mobilization of vaccinators, maybe.

    And the HSE can't even get the number of doses for Sneem correct. Why should we suddenly expect a million doses to show up on our shores on April 1 and get into a million arms in a couple weeks?

    You seem to be confusing the rollout nos constraints between supply and ability to give doses.

    If we were supplied 1m doses in April yes I think we could administer them.

    Supply is the issue and this is the fault of the EU - they tried to be cute and negotiate down a better price for the vaccines whilst Israel and the UK stormed ahead.

    The EU vaccine contracts have been an absolute joke and shameful.


  • #8748
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    im all for optimism but do you honestly think we will be vaccinating 1m a month from april, not a ****ing hope

    Even if we got half a million each in those months that would allow significant ease of restrictions.

    What's population of Ireland - 5.5m?

    Say we had 0.7m done by end of March.
    0.5m per month in Q2.
    Brings us up to 2.2m out of adult population of what 4.5m?

    That's almost 50% of adults and 100% of vulnerable meaning pretty much 100% ease of restrictions on 1 July. Still need social distancing and masks I'd say.

    Everything outdoor should be open right now IMO - dining, sports etc.


  • #8749
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    You seem to be confusing the rollout nos constraints between supply and ability to give doses.

    If we were supplied 1m doses in April yes I think we could administer them.

    Supply is the issue and this is the fault of the EU - they tried to be cute and negotiate down a better price for the vaccines whilst Israel and the UK stormed ahead.

    The EU vaccine contracts have been an absolute joke and shameful.
    Israel paid double and agreed to provide data so they are effectively a clinical trial. Misgivings about EU contracts aside they can't be blamed for a company consistently failing to meet any committed targets and with the same great customer service likely to run into Q2 and beyond. Once the EU get their original order they will cut AZ loose. There will be no further EU options and individual countries will only order what can immediately be loaded into trucks.


  • #8750
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    ek motor wrote: »
    What was the target for q1 , 1.25 million ? We wont even get close to that . People are going to sceptical that the targets for q2 and q3 aren't going to be met.

    It will most certainly be more than a month or two before we reach a critical mass of vaccinations.

    And that, possibly, throws everybodys summer plans up in the air, and kicks the can into autumn, when the weather is worse, health services struggling, new variant etc. etc.


  • #8751
    muddypuppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭muddypuppy


    Igotadose wrote: »
    It's 'better than nothing' news is all. The nonsense with AZ just cost a week.

    Some countries are far, far ahead like Israel, which is a smaller, densely populated country with enormous challenges, yet if we could travel there you could walk into a surgery or pharmacy (I think) and get a vaccine.

    To date, Irelands not managed 100k doses in a week. How will they do a million in April? Maybe with 24x7 vaccine centers and a huge mobilization of vaccinators, maybe.


    And the HSE can't even get the number of doses for Sneem correct. Why should we suddenly expect a million doses to show up on our shores on April 1 and get into a million arms in a couple weeks?

    That's mostly down to supply. If you look at daily capacity, we can easily do 20k doses a day right now - but then it only last a couple of days because we don't have enough vaccines. And now we're doing a lot of Pfizer which is hard to handle.

    I'm not saying that 1 million doses per month/250k doses per week is going to be easy, but you can't look at what we have now and say "we won't be able to".


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  • #8752
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    muddypuppy wrote: »
    That's mostly down to supply. If you look at daily capacity, we can easily do 20k doses a day right now - but then it only last a couple of days because we don't have enough vaccines. And now we're doing a lot of Pfizer which is hard to handle.

    I'm not saying that 1 million doses per month/250k doses per week is going to be easy, but you can't look at what we have now and say "we won't be able to".
    Most of the MVCs are not running yet and the GP and pharmacy network can do 85K a week. 250K should be a reasonable target but we may even aim for 300K.


  • #8753
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    rusty cole wrote: »
    100% and look at this...hhhhmmmmmmm increase capacity or stand here for worlds most expensive warehouse photo opportunity..f*cking buffoon..

    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/money/other/questions-over-25m-cost-for-leasing-a-mostly-empty-citywest/ar-BB1eKExT?ocid=entnewsntp

    :confused:
    Citywest was all about increasing capacity. It was meant to be a field hospital, then a step down facility and finally a quarantine hotel for those that couldn't isolate at home. The extra capacity thankfully wasn't needed to the extent that it could handle at capacity.

    You wouldn't be engaging in misrepresentation now would you? You'd rather it was full of sick people?


  • #8754
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,805 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    just had a dental checkup and clean (and a filling thrown in) all staff vaccinated and much happier than when i was in 6 months ago !

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • #8755
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Igotadose wrote: »
    It's 'better than nothing' news is all. The nonsense with AZ just cost a week.

    Some countries are far, far ahead like Israel, which is a smaller, densely populated country with enormous challenges, yet if we could travel there you could walk into a surgery or pharmacy (I think) and get a vaccine.

    To date, Irelands not managed 100k doses in a week. How will they do a million in April? Maybe with 24x7 vaccine centers and a huge mobilization of vaccinators, maybe.

    And the HSE can't even get the number of doses for Sneem correct. Why should we suddenly expect a million doses to show up on our shores on April 1 and get into a million arms in a couple weeks?

    As has been repeated here on several occasions, they did 600,000+ flu vaccinations last November with minimum fuss. Doubling that number is possible with all hands on board.


  • #8756
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    Even if we got half a million each in those months that would allow significant ease of restrictions.

    What's population of Ireland - 5.5m?

    Say we had 0.7m done by end of March.
    0.5m per month in Q2.
    Brings us up to 2.2m out of adult population of what 4.5m?

    That's almost 50% of adults and 100% of vulnerable meaning pretty much 100% ease of restrictions on 1 July. Still need social distancing and masks I'd say.

    Everything outdoor should be open right now IMO - dining, sports etc.

    Is that qualified opinion?

    Not even the UK who are miles ahead in the vaccination stakes have those open and despite provisional dates will only open them when they've reached vaccination targets and cases are kept low.


  • #8757
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    gozunda wrote: »
    Is that qualified opinion?

    Not even the UK who are miles ahead in the vaccination stakes have those open and despite provisional dates will only open them when they've reached vaccination targets and cases are kept low.

    Plenty of "qualified" individuals who would agree. You can cherry pick someone with a certain education level who carries the same opinion if you look hard enough, regardless of the opinion.

    Don't appeal to authority because when presented with an individual who agrees who meets your educational standard, the goalposts will shift.


  • #8758
    TobyHolmes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭TobyHolmes


    so what does the government expect everyone to do over the easter period. basically nothing? we cant see friends or family?


  • #8759
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    TobyHolmes wrote: »
    so what does the government expect everyone to do over the easter period. basically nothing? we cant see friends or family?

    You shouldn't be thinking about seeing your family, that's incredibly selfish, even if you haven't seen them in 12 months. You'll be too busy holding firm in your sitting room anyway.


  • #8760
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    https://twitter.com/Jest_Iris/status/1373706974592917510


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  • #8761
    TobyHolmes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭TobyHolmes


    11521323 wrote: »
    You shouldn't be thinking about seeing your family, that's incredibly selfish, even if you haven't seen them in 12 months. You'll be too busy holding firm in your sitting room anyway.


    ive been holding firm now for a year havent seen anyone in months. just wondering if the government have issued a statement - like what do they expect? we just sit at home by ourselves getting fat and crying into our chocolate easter bunnies?


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