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Nct equivalent for tractors?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    K.G. wrote: »
    While personally i do think this smokey tractor is probaly contributing about 2 % of emissions from that road no matter how bad it is i do think that certain people can be very adversely affect by seemingly small events.chatting to a fella the other day and he was telling me that spreading slurry on fields near him had a massive effect on his wife who has severe lung problems .now this guy is country born and bred and not a prick and is nt going to stop anyone doing anything or say anything but the effect is real.by the sounds of it there is a serious situation with ops child but to focus on one tractor is a bit over the top.if one tractor is an issue here then there is no environment going to be up to spec for that child
    I don't know about lung problems but I used to dread having to spend a day at slurry with the contractor I worked for when I was younger. I used to get a full on migraine from it every time without fail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭trg


    maidhc wrote: »
    The air quality is superior in the countryside, period.

    I do think you may need to get psychiatric help if you are obsessing to the degree you suggest. It’s not healthy for you or the child. The tractor isn’t the biggest issue here.

    Ah here, this is some bull**** reply. Op asked a question, got an answer and this is the type of ****e a farmer comes back with?

    Talk about being ultra defensive. Maybe they've touched a nerve with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    trg wrote: »
    Ah here, this is some bull**** reply. Op asked a question, got an answer and this is the type of ****e a farmer comes back with?

    Talk about being ultra defensive. Maybe they've touched a nerve with you.




    You say "touched a nerve". Other's might just say "maybe he's seen that sort of ignorant crap plenty of times before".


    Most people on this forum have probably come across similar issues from people who land into an area and complain about very normal stuff that the person should have anticipated

    Edit: Re-posting this from last year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭trg


    You say "touched a nerve". Other's might just say "maybe he's seen that sort of ignorant crap plenty of times before".


    Most people on this forum have probably come across similar issues from people who land into an area and complain about very normal stuff that the person should have anticipated

    Edit: Re-posting this from last year

    They asked a question. And got an answer.

    Do you think they need psychiatric help as well yeah?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    You say "touched a nerve". Other's might just say "maybe he's seen that sort of ignorant crap plenty of times before".


    Most people on this forum have probably come across similar issues from people who land into an area and complain about very normal stuff that the person should have anticipated

    This attitude annoys me. It's very insular. A newcomer to an area has just as much right to live there as anyone else. To say otherwise is bullying behaviour, I really dislike bullies.

    Plus 'normal stuff' might be illegal or detrimental to others - complaining about it might be totally justified. If the complaint is not valid then nothing will come of it.

    eg the driving of uninsured/untaxed agricultural vehicles on public roads


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    KaneToad wrote: »
    This attitude annoys me. It's very insular. A newcomer to an area has just as much right to live there as anyone else. To say otherwise is bullying behaviour, I really dislike bullies.

    Plus 'normal stuff' might be illegal or detrimental to others - complaining about it might be totally justified. If the complaint is not valid then nothing will come of it.

    eg the driving of uninsured/untaxed agricultural vehicles on public roads




    Anyone has the right to live wherever they want. Nobody said otherwise.



    They don't, however, have the right to expect that they can move into an area and have everyone else change their lives and businesses to suit them. They may think the world revolves around them but it doesn't.



    If you bought an apartment in Templebar and tried to start a campaign complaining about all the drunk people coming out of pubs in your area then you'd be rightly laughed at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭maidhc


    KaneToad wrote: »

    Plus 'normal stuff' might be illegal or detrimental to others - complaining about it might be totally justified. If the complaint is not valid then nothing will come of it.


    I merely pointed out the complaint was not valid...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    KaneToad wrote: »
    This attitude annoys me. It's very insular. A newcomer to an area has just as much right to live there as anyone else. To say otherwise is bullying behaviour, I really dislike bullies.

    Plus 'normal stuff' might be illegal or detrimental to others - complaining about it might be totally justified. If the complaint is not valid then nothing will come of it.

    eg the driving of uninsured/untaxed agricultural vehicles on public roads




    So we are just making up stuff now?



    How long was the tax and insurance out on that tractor? Would you say that child's allergies would be affected more by the lack of tax or the lack of insurance?


    What is dangerous is people moving into an area and doing stuff that is illegal and detrimental to others e.g the driving of uninsured/untaxed personal cars on public roads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭Car99


    OP you picked the wrong forum to post this in.You must be a townie if you really thought you would get a simple answer here rather than replies from farming folk on the defensive. This is why the farming lobby has so much clout in this country they stick together.
    IMO a single dodgy tractor wont do that much harm in the grand scheme of things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Car99 wrote: »
    OP you picked the wrong forum to post this in.You must be a townie if you really thought you would get a simple answer here rather than replies from farming folk on the defensive. This is why the farming lobby has so much clout in this country they stick together.
    IMO a single dodgy tractor wont do that much harm in the grand scheme of things.




    Well I don't know how someone could think that a farmer wouldn't have a tractor insured.


    The old tractor that they think looks dirty and a bit battered moving slowly down the road would probably cost more, in that state, than the car they are driving would cost brand new.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Say my name




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I can't even get an answer what kind of tractor it is and the rest of ye are in world war3.. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭yrreg0850


    The attitude to NCT shows how strong the farming lobby is.

    Incidentally this forum has conveniently moved from the original post.

    Why should one group of road users be treated differently from all other road users.
    Is that fair to other road users.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,923 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    .



    If you bought an apartment in Templebar and tried to start a campaign complaining about all the drunk people coming out of pubs in your area then you'd be rightly laughed at.

    It's illegal to be drunk in public, even though it's done all over the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Well I don't know how someone could think that a farmer wouldn't have a tractor insured.


    The old tractor that they think looks dirty and a bit battered moving slowly down the road would probably cost more, in that state, than the car they are driving would cost brand new.

    I'm sure there's plenty of city folk that would think it strange that uninsured tractors can be common enough on the road. If an uninsured car was in Dublin City, it wouldn't be long there till it be seized.

    As said already the op got his answer.
    But plenty of responses here had a snarky tone to them.
    I'm a farmer too tho, but it can be as easy to to move on than keep replying with snarkinness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Jb1989 wrote: »
    I'm sure there's plenty of city folk that would think it strange that uninsured tractors can be common enough on the road. If an uninsured car was in Dublin City, it wouldn't be long there till it be seized.

    As said already the op got his answer.
    But plenty of responses here had a snarky tone to them.
    I'm a farmer too tho, but it can be as easy to to move on than keep replying with snarkinness.




    You'd be surprised at the number on uninsured cars on the road. Over 7.5% of vehicles on the road are not insured. https://www.mibi.ie/mibi-news/uninsured-vehicles-on-irish-roads-increased-by-almost-14000-last-year-%E2%80%93-mibi.1805.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    This thread shows imo how far the attitude to farmers has disimproved in this country.

    You've elements now calling the tractor uninsured and untaxed (not the op).
    Other elements going on about farmer lobby.. which has nearly become non existent to those within farming.
    The original op was about emissions and nct which they got their answer in the first few posts.
    I'm guessing the op is coming from the tesla high tech air heat pump central passive heating world?
    Which more people will be brought up with and look with strange eyes on anything different from that.

    Anyway we know the future..more of the above and a sanitized world of high tech people in the countryside driving teslas.

    As ye all were.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭yrreg0850


    This thread shows imo how far the attitude to farmers has disimproved in this country.

    You've elements now calling the tractor uninsured and untaxed (not the op).
    Other elements going on about farmer lobby.. which has nearly become non existent to those within farming.
    The original op was about emissions and nct which they got their answer in the first few posts.
    I'm guessing the op is coming from the tesla high tech air heat pump central passive heating world?
    Which more people will be brought up with and look with strange eyes on anything different from that.

    Anyway we know the future..more of the above and a sanitized world of high tech people in the countryside driving teslas.

    As ye all were.

    The farmers have nobody only themselves to blame for the attitude to farmers.

    If it rains too much ---handout
    No rain ----handout

    Leave a field idle - handout


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭maidhc


    yrreg0850 wrote: »
    The farmers have nobody only themselves to blame for the attitude to farmers.

    If it rains too much ---handout
    No rain ----handout

    Leave a field idle - handout

    Farmers would be respected if we lived in a world when the cost of food reflected the cost of production. People will pay over the odds for ultra processed “vegan” foods, but not for high quality natural produce; hence the “handouts”.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    yrreg0850 wrote: »
    The farmers have nobody only themselves to blame for the attitude to farmers.

    If it rains too much ---handout
    No rain ----handout

    Leave a field idle - handout
    Get rid of farmer dole and make imports be produced to the same ruleS and regs ez.

    Mind you most folk will baulk at the food inflation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    yrreg0850 wrote: »
    The farmers have nobody only themselves to blame for the attitude to farmers.

    If it rains too much ---handout
    No rain ----handout

    Leave a field idle - handout

    When does anyone ever get a handout to do with the amount it rains.

    Leave the field idle (for wildlife/ wild plants) is the sort of thing the green party would be promoting they've more TD's in middle class urban areas than rural areas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,250 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    yrreg0850 wrote: »

    Why should one group of road users be treated differently from all other road users.
    Is that fair to other road users.

    There's no NCT for ancient cars either...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    yrreg0850 wrote: »
    The farmers have nobody only themselves to blame for the attitude to farmers.

    If it rains too much ---handout
    No rain ----handout

    Leave a field idle - handout
    Exactly.

    Proved the point, it's resentment but in the ops case with the old tractor probably snobbery and looking to put the boot in.

    When all these "handouts" are going out and the ops neighbour is driving about in a vintage tractor doesn't that tell you something of the industry.

    Now maybe this "farmer" doesn't get any "handouts". What then?
    Just ban the tractor off the road because it's vintage..
    What do you ban then ..steam engines, steam rallies, tractor runs?

    (Brought it back to emissions cause steam engines are cool). :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭hopeso


    yrreg0850 wrote: »
    The attitude to NCT shows how strong the farming lobby is.

    Incidentally this forum has conveniently moved from the original post.

    Why should one group of road users be treated differently from all other road users.
    Is that fair to other road users
    .

    Couldn't agree more......Bloody cyclists! :rolleyes::D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,923 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    hopeso wrote: »
    Couldn't agree more......Bloody cyclists! :rolleyes::D

    How dare they allow themselves be almost run of the road by motorists.

    And don't get me started on pedestrians with their "footpaths".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭green daries


    yrreg0850 wrote: »
    The farmers have nobody only themselves to blame for the attitude to farmers.

    If it rains too much ---handout
    No rain ----handout

    Leave a field idle - handout

    I really love it when a poster unwittingly just goes and proves a point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,888 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Who2 wrote: »
    It’s probably reggie on the landini.

    No smoke no poke lad :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    yrreg0850 wrote: »
    There were proposals a few years ago for tractor NCT but guess what ? . It was done too near an upcoming election----Need I say anymore.

    Things might change if certain grants were attached to a valid NCT.

    NCT is only a piece of paper, how many Cats are screwed back on for the test?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    maidhc wrote: »
    The air quality is superior in the countryside, period.

    I do think you may need to get psychiatric help if you are obsessing to the degree you suggest. It’s not healthy for you or the child. The tractor isn’t the biggest issue here.

    I'd be guessing they were kiteflying for a claim, Greens in government would probably fall in behind it even if the parents are chainsmokers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Ddad


    Within a 50 yards of me a tractor lost a wheel and demolished a wall, it could just as easily have demolished a life. it could have been one of mine. Within a half a mile A local road is impassable to cars for most of the year because the local large scale dairy operation uses it as a farm track with their heavy machinery on a daily basis.The people who have lived on that road all of their lives have to go two miles out of their way because of the state of the road. This is a recent development; the bigger the machinery and the stock numbers got the worse the road got.

    Most of the road edges are destroyed by large rigs which have no business being driven on tarred and chipped gravel roads.

    A lad crosses a local N road in a MF135 with next to no lights on it to reach his outfarm to feed his cattle, its only a matter of time until he kills someone.

    The grass verges on the all of the local roads are becoming more and more eroded as big rigs can't pass each other without mounting the verges. in many areas the road edges are just churned muck.

    A tillage operation dragged so much muck on to a nearby road it caused an accident that included serious life altering injuries.

    Thats within a mile of me. I'm from a rural area. Ive worked on farms as a youngster. My son works on a farm during the summer. i have an idea how hard a life it is.

    It doesn't entitle anyone to carry out their business in a way that'll harm others or the environment around them.

    Farming is the most dangerous profession in Ireland because of this attitude of "leave him off" and "Its nobodies business but his own". If a tractor is a heap that spews fumes it should be fixed and it's a fairly poor attitude to make fun of the parent of a sick child for asking an honest question. Its fairly shameful to be honest.


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