Nct equivalent for tractors?

grassylawn

What are the requirements for maintaining a tractor to avoid excessive fumes, and how is it enforced?

There's an ancient one around here that stinks like a very ****ed up two stroke engine from 30m away. Not ideal for my toddler who has had respiratory issues.

Donald Trump

There are none.
One working in the next field occasionally isn't going to affect your toddler.

Did you by any chance move into a rural area that you didn't grow up in?

punisher5112

Nothing can be done about it, it's off road.

There is no test.

If on the road it must be kept in full working order and safe such as tyres and brakes.

MrMusician18

There was a proposal a few years back to introduce an NCT-like system for tractors but it hasn't been implemented yet to my knowledge.

It's a shame because the amount of death traps held together with twine you see on the roads is a complete disgrace.

Tbh the smoke from your oven is likely to have a greater impact on your toddler than the neighbours tractor. It's funny the way particulate matter became a huge thing following the VW scandal. The indoor air quality in most houses is far worse than outdoors.

Say my name

grassylawn wrote: »

What are the requirements for maintaining a tractor to avoid excessive fumes, and how is it enforced?

There's an ancient one around here that stinks like a very ****ed up two stroke engine from 30m away. Not ideal for my toddler who has had respiratory issues.

That's a Ferguson 20 tvo.

amacca

MrMusician18 wrote: »

There was a proposal a few years back to introduce an NCT-like system for tractors but it hasn't been implemented yet to my knowledge.

It's a shame because the amount of death traps held together with twine you see on the roads is a complete disgrace.

Tbh the smoke from your oven is likely to have a greater impact on your toddler than the neighbours tractor. It's funny the way particulate matter became a huge thing following the VW scandal. The indoor air quality in most houses is far worse than outdoors.

More money trickling out ....

grassylawn

It drives past my house frequently on the road.

whisky_galore

Donald Trump wrote: »

There are none.
One working in the next field occasionally isn't going to affect your toddler.

Did you by any chance move into a rural area that you didn't grow up in?

Blow in!

whisky_galore

MrMusician18 wrote: »

It's a shame because the amount of death traps held together with twine you see on the roads is a complete disgrace.

I don't see many "death traps" these days tbh.
A lot of relatively modern tractors, with flashing beacons more often than not.

Saw an older 1980s tractor the other day, retrofitted with LED type rear lights that actually worked.

grassylawn

MrMusician18 wrote: »

There was a proposal a few years back to introduce an NCT-like system for tractors but it hasn't been implemented yet to my knowledge.

It's a shame because the amount of death traps held together with twine you see on the roads is a complete disgrace.

Tbh the smoke from your oven is likely to have a greater impact on your toddler than the neighbours tractor. It's funny the way particulate matter became a huge thing following the VW scandal. The indoor air quality in most houses is far worse than outdoors.

I have two hepa filters. Dont cook anything that will smoke with him in the room. Anything that smokes a lot gets cooked outside the back door on portable hob or george foreman.

A good point though if you weren't presumptuous.

BENDYBINN

If your toddler has respiratory issues then all farming in the area should cease immediately.
Call a meeting to inform them of this..

grassylawn

Yeah standard defensive cliquey type ****.

Lots of tractors drive past. One has a fncked up engine that must be gassing anyone near it. Thanks again for the info that this isn't regulated.

Also I suppose a useful illustration of the sort of mentality I might encounter were I to try doing something mental like suggesting they fix their engine.

J.O. Farmer

grassylawn wrote: »

Yeah standard defensive cliquey type ****.

Lots of tractors drive past. One has a fncked up engine that must be gassing anyone near it. Thanks again for the info that this isn't regulated.

Also I suppose a useful illustration of the sort of mentality I might encounter were I to try doing something mental like suggesting they fix their engine.

If your toddler is as bad enough you need HEPA filters and can't cook inside the smokey tractor passing the road is the least of your problems and you need to keep your toddler in the HEPA filtered air away from the road. There's probably more risk from pollen than the tractor anyway.

What type of reaction did you expect coming on effectively complaining about the tractor. A quick Google search would have probably answered your question.

selectamatic

grassylawn wrote: »

What are the requirements for maintaining a tractor to avoid excessive fumes, and how is it enforced?

There's an ancient one...

There are no requirements.

In the wide open countryside it shouldn't have any measurable impact on you or your toddler anyways so ye'll be fine.

mgn

MrMusician18 wrote: »

There was a proposal a few years back to introduce an NCT-like system for tractors but it hasn't been implemented yet to my knowledge.

It's a shame because the amount of death traps held together with twine you see on the roads is a complete disgrace.

Tbh the smoke from your oven is likely to have a greater impact on your toddler than the neighbours tractor. It's funny the way particulate matter became a huge thing following the VW scandal. The indoor air quality in most houses is far worse than outdoors.

Lord Ross was pushing for it a few back but dropped it quietly.
That will tell you the power the farmers have in this country.

yrreg0850

grassylawn wrote: »

Yeah standard defensive cliquey type ****.

Lots of tractors drive past. One has a fncked up engine that must be gassing anyone near it. Thanks again for the info that this isn't regulated.

Also I suppose a useful illustration of the sort of mentality I might encounter were I to try doing something mental like suggesting they fix their engine.

There were proposals a few years ago for tractor NCT but guess what ? . It was done too near an upcoming election----Need I say anymore.

Things might change if certain grants were attached to a valid NCT.

Donald Trump

grassylawn wrote: »

Yeah standard defensive cliquey type ****.

Lots of tractors drive past. One has a fncked up engine that must be gassing anyone near it. Thanks again for the info that this isn't regulated.

Also I suppose a useful illustration of the sort of mentality I might encounter were I to try doing something mental like suggesting they fix their engine.

You should have done your research before you moved. Then you might not have been as surprised to realise that people live and work there too and that there might be different noises and smells compared to what you are used to.

Say my name

grassylawn wrote: »

It drives past my house frequently on the road.

What colour is it?

Who2

Say my name wrote: »

What colour is it?

It’s probably reggie on the landini.

The Rabbi

Plenty strangers out for a walk this evening.

Say my name

Who2 wrote: »

It’s probably reggie on the landini.

Ah we'll lay off Reggie. He's after getting plenty unjustified abuse here in the last two days.







It's probably Dinzee Conlee on his Zetor.

amacca

mgn wrote: »

Lord Ross.

Lord Ross......:D:D:D:D:D:D

Dinzee Conlee

Say my name wrote: »

Ah we'll lay off Reggie. He's after getting plenty unjustified abuse here in the last two days

It's probably Dinzee Conlee on his Zetor.

I wish it was... stupid zetor is parked up in the yard waiting for the mechanic...

135 still going strong...

ruwithme

grassylawn wrote: »

What are the requirements for maintaining a tractor to avoid excessive fumes, and how is it enforced?

There's an ancient one around here that stinks like a very ****ed up two stroke engine from 30m away. Not ideal for my toddler who has had respiratory issues.

You've clearly touched a nerve in one or two on here,with your post.I'm no medic, so won't be claiming or offering anything in that line.

It's easy for the rest of us to be judgemental on you.we don't know your exact circumstances relative to your post.

lab man

grassylawn wrote: »

Yeah standard defensive cliquey type ****.

Lots of tractors drive past. One has a fncked up engine that must be gassing anyone near it. Thanks again for the info that this isn't regulated.

Also I suppose a useful illustration of the sort of mentality I might encounter were I to try doing something mental like suggesting they fix their engine.

Are you a mechanic.? The rural country didnt go to you, you went to rural country

Say my name

Could be a lanz bulldog too.

whisky_galore

lab man wrote: »

Are you a mechanic.? The rural country didnt go to you, you went to rural country

Move to Antarctica OP.

maidhc

grassylawn wrote: »

There's an ancient one around here that stinks like a very ****ed up two stroke engine from 30m away. Not ideal for my toddler who has had respiratory issues.

The chances a single tractor driving past your house could affect your child is nigh on impossible. Compare it it to say living in a built up area where you would have a constant stream of vehicles at all times, along with all kinds of domestic and industrial pollution.

As others said, you just have to live with it.

grassylawn

The smell is worse than the middle of heavy traffic, so no.

Air pollution is worse in villages than urban and suburban areas in this country now, mainly thanks to the smoky coal ban only being present in the latter, but I'm sure backyard burning is a factor too. I have monitors and the air quality here is frequently **** thanks to a handful of people.

I'm going to unsubscribe to this now. I got the answer to my question pretty promptly, and now I'm just getting lots of deranged rants.

K.G.

While personally i do think this smokey tractor is probaly contributing about 2 % of emissions from that road no matter how bad it is i do think that certain people can be very adversely affect by seemingly small events.chatting to a fella the other day and he was telling me that spreading slurry on fields near him had a massive effect on his wife who has severe lung problems .now this guy is country born and bred and not a prick and is nt going to stop anyone doing anything or say anything but the effect is real.by the sounds of it there is a serious situation with ops child but to focus on one tractor is a bit over the top.if one tractor is an issue here then there is no environment going to be up to spec for that child

maidhc

grassylawn wrote: »

The smell is worse than the middle of heavy traffic, so no.

Air pollution is worse in villages than urban and suburban areas in this country now, mainly thanks to the smoky coal ban only being present in the latter, but I'm sure backyard burning is a factor too. I have monitors and the air quality here is frequently **** thanks to a handful of people.

The air quality is superior in the countryside, period.

I do think you may need to get psychiatric help if you are obsessing to the degree you suggest. It’s not healthy for you or the child. The tractor isn’t the biggest issue here.

Limestone Cowboy

K.G. wrote: »

While personally i do think this smokey tractor is probaly contributing about 2 % of emissions from that road no matter how bad it is i do think that certain people can be very adversely affect by seemingly small events.chatting to a fella the other day and he was telling me that spreading slurry on fields near him had a massive effect on his wife who has severe lung problems .now this guy is country born and bred and not a prick and is nt going to stop anyone doing anything or say anything but the effect is real.by the sounds of it there is a serious situation with ops child but to focus on one tractor is a bit over the top.if one tractor is an issue here then there is no environment going to be up to spec for that child

I don't know about lung problems but I used to dread having to spend a day at slurry with the contractor I worked for when I was younger. I used to get a full on migraine from it every time without fail.

trg

maidhc wrote: »

The air quality is superior in the countryside, period.

I do think you may need to get psychiatric help if you are obsessing to the degree you suggest. It’s not healthy for you or the child. The tractor isn’t the biggest issue here.

Ah here, this is some bull**** reply. Op asked a question, got an answer and this is the type of ****e a farmer comes back with?

Talk about being ultra defensive. Maybe they've touched a nerve with you.

Donald Trump

trg wrote: »

Ah here, this is some bull**** reply. Op asked a question, got an answer and this is the type of ****e a farmer comes back with?

Talk about being ultra defensive. Maybe they've touched a nerve with you.

You say "touched a nerve". Other's might just say "maybe he's seen that sort of ignorant crap plenty of times before".


Most people on this forum have probably come across similar issues from people who land into an area and complain about very normal stuff that the person should have anticipated

Edit: Re-posting this from last year

trg

Donald Trump wrote: »

You say "touched a nerve". Other's might just say "maybe he's seen that sort of ignorant crap plenty of times before".


Most people on this forum have probably come across similar issues from people who land into an area and complain about very normal stuff that the person should have anticipated

Edit: Re-posting this from last year

They asked a question. And got an answer.

Do you think they need psychiatric help as well yeah?

KaneToad

Donald Trump wrote: »

You say "touched a nerve". Other's might just say "maybe he's seen that sort of ignorant crap plenty of times before".


Most people on this forum have probably come across similar issues from people who land into an area and complain about very normal stuff that the person should have anticipated

This attitude annoys me. It's very insular. A newcomer to an area has just as much right to live there as anyone else. To say otherwise is bullying behaviour, I really dislike bullies.

Plus 'normal stuff' might be illegal or detrimental to others - complaining about it might be totally justified. If the complaint is not valid then nothing will come of it.

eg the driving of uninsured/untaxed agricultural vehicles on public roads

Donald Trump

KaneToad wrote: »

This attitude annoys me. It's very insular. A newcomer to an area has just as much right to live there as anyone else. To say otherwise is bullying behaviour, I really dislike bullies.

Plus 'normal stuff' might be illegal or detrimental to others - complaining about it might be totally justified. If the complaint is not valid then nothing will come of it.

eg the driving of uninsured/untaxed agricultural vehicles on public roads

Anyone has the right to live wherever they want. Nobody said otherwise.



They don't, however, have the right to expect that they can move into an area and have everyone else change their lives and businesses to suit them. They may think the world revolves around them but it doesn't.



If you bought an apartment in Templebar and tried to start a campaign complaining about all the drunk people coming out of pubs in your area then you'd be rightly laughed at.

maidhc

KaneToad wrote: »

Plus 'normal stuff' might be illegal or detrimental to others - complaining about it might be totally justified. If the complaint is not valid then nothing will come of it.

I merely pointed out the complaint was not valid...

Donald Trump

KaneToad wrote: »

This attitude annoys me. It's very insular. A newcomer to an area has just as much right to live there as anyone else. To say otherwise is bullying behaviour, I really dislike bullies.

Plus 'normal stuff' might be illegal or detrimental to others - complaining about it might be totally justified. If the complaint is not valid then nothing will come of it.

eg the driving of uninsured/untaxed agricultural vehicles on public roads

So we are just making up stuff now?



How long was the tax and insurance out on that tractor? Would you say that child's allergies would be affected more by the lack of tax or the lack of insurance?


What is dangerous is people moving into an area and doing stuff that is illegal and detrimental to others e.g the driving of uninsured/untaxed personal cars on public roads.

Car99

OP you picked the wrong forum to post this in.You must be a townie if you really thought you would get a simple answer here rather than replies from farming folk on the defensive. This is why the farming lobby has so much clout in this country they stick together.
IMO a single dodgy tractor wont do that much harm in the grand scheme of things.

Donald Trump

Car99 wrote: »

OP you picked the wrong forum to post this in.You must be a townie if you really thought you would get a simple answer here rather than replies from farming folk on the defensive. This is why the farming lobby has so much clout in this country they stick together.
IMO a single dodgy tractor wont do that much harm in the grand scheme of things.

Well I don't know how someone could think that a farmer wouldn't have a tractor insured.


The old tractor that they think looks dirty and a bit battered moving slowly down the road would probably cost more, in that state, than the car they are driving would cost brand new.

Say my name

Is this the tractor?

https://machinerysales.cheffins.co.uk/lot-details/index/catalog/131/lot/66368

Say my name

I can't even get an answer what kind of tractor it is and the rest of ye are in world war3..

yrreg0850

The attitude to NCT shows how strong the farming lobby is.

Incidentally this forum has conveniently moved from the original post.

Why should one group of road users be treated differently from all other road users.
Is that fair to other road users.

The J Stands for Jay

Donald Trump wrote: »

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If you bought an apartment in Templebar and tried to start a campaign complaining about all the drunk people coming out of pubs in your area then you'd be rightly laughed at.

It's illegal to be drunk in public, even though it's done all over the country.

Jb1989

Donald Trump wrote: »

Well I don't know how someone could think that a farmer wouldn't have a tractor insured.


The old tractor that they think looks dirty and a bit battered moving slowly down the road would probably cost more, in that state, than the car they are driving would cost brand new.

I'm sure there's plenty of city folk that would think it strange that uninsured tractors can be common enough on the road. If an uninsured car was in Dublin City, it wouldn't be long there till it be seized.

As said already the op got his answer.
But plenty of responses here had a snarky tone to them.
I'm a farmer too tho, but it can be as easy to to move on than keep replying with snarkinness.

Donald Trump

Jb1989 wrote: »

I'm sure there's plenty of city folk that would think it strange that uninsured tractors can be common enough on the road. If an uninsured car was in Dublin City, it wouldn't be long there till it be seized.

As said already the op got his answer.
But plenty of responses here had a snarky tone to them.
I'm a farmer too tho, but it can be as easy to to move on than keep replying with snarkinness.

You'd be surprised at the number on uninsured cars on the road. Over 7.5% of vehicles on the road are not insured. https://www.mibi.ie/mibi-news/uninsured-vehicles-on-irish-roads-increased-by-almost-14000-last-year-%E2%80%93-mibi.1805.html

Say my name

This thread shows imo how far the attitude to farmers has disimproved in this country.

You've elements now calling the tractor uninsured and untaxed (not the op).
Other elements going on about farmer lobby.. which has nearly become non existent to those within farming.
The original op was about emissions and nct which they got their answer in the first few posts.
I'm guessing the op is coming from the tesla high tech air heat pump central passive heating world?
Which more people will be brought up with and look with strange eyes on anything different from that.

Anyway we know the future..more of the above and a sanitized world of high tech people in the countryside driving teslas.

As ye all were.

yrreg0850

Say my name wrote: »

This thread shows imo how far the attitude to farmers has disimproved in this country.

You've elements now calling the tractor uninsured and untaxed (not the op).
Other elements going on about farmer lobby.. which has nearly become non existent to those within farming.
The original op was about emissions and nct which they got their answer in the first few posts.
I'm guessing the op is coming from the tesla high tech air heat pump central passive heating world?
Which more people will be brought up with and look with strange eyes on anything different from that.

Anyway we know the future..more of the above and a sanitized world of high tech people in the countryside driving teslas.

As ye all were.

The farmers have nobody only themselves to blame for the attitude to farmers.

If it rains too much ---handout
No rain ----handout

Leave a field idle - handout

maidhc

yrreg0850 wrote: »

The farmers have nobody only themselves to blame for the attitude to farmers.

If it rains too much ---handout
No rain ----handout

Leave a field idle - handout

Farmers would be respected if we lived in a world when the cost of food reflected the cost of production. People will pay over the odds for ultra processed “vegan” foods, but not for high quality natural produce; hence the “handouts”.

Waffletraktor

yrreg0850 wrote: »

The farmers have nobody only themselves to blame for the attitude to farmers.

If it rains too much ---handout
No rain ----handout

Leave a field idle - handout

Get rid of farmer dole and make imports be produced to the same ruleS and regs ez.

Mind you most folk will baulk at the food inflation.