Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

kowloonkev · 21-03-2021 02:50AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They are merely "the selfish, the poorly informed, and those weak in morale courage", apparently.

The irony :pac:

The vast majority of people understand the situation. They may not be happy with everything but they don't complain much. They understand that we are only one more deadly, vaccine proof variant away from starting this all over again from scratch. They comprehend the precariousness of the situation and are prepared to be patient.

That's the reason why undesirables, undereducated and those without social standing are the only people you see on the streets every weekend.

AlekSmart · 21-03-2021 03:04AM

gozunda wrote: »

The long term anarchists in the UK will generally take to the streets at the drop of a hat. They've been at it long before when I lived there. Really not a particularly good barometer for the veracity of any situation tbh.

Most of them are still waiting for a Russian
proletariat style revolution ...

Ah right Ted,that explains it...I was gettin a bit worried there for a bit...;)

bb1234567 · 21-03-2021 03:56AM

Florida folds..
https://twitter.com/MiamiBeachPD/status/1373394836708024322

Del Griffith · 21-03-2021 06:27AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Florida folds..
https://twitter.com/MiamiBeachPD/status/1373394836708024322

Reads very strange, I mean it doesn't mention anything about covid19.

Googling it implies its a measure to prevent serious overcrowding as the place is so packed with tourists for spring break that they're worried about crushes and riots, not the virus.

ceadaoin. · 21-03-2021 07:03AM

Del Griffith wrote: »

Reads very strange, I mean it doesn't mention anything about covid19.

Googling it implies its a measure to prevent serious overcrowding as the place is so packed with tourists for spring break that they're worried about crushes and riots, not the virus.

Yeah its because the place is dangerously crowded with drinking and fights happening everywhere. Cheap flights and people wanting to let loose after possibly being under restrictions in their own states have led to people flocking there. It's not strictly covid related. And even if it was, it wouldn't be Florida "folding". it would be one city putting in restrictions

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/miami-beach-declares-state-emergency-over-spring-break-crowds-n1261673

The city of Miami Beach on Saturday declared a state of emergency over spring break crowds that have descended on the popular South Florida destination.

During an afternoon news conference, Mayor Dan Gelber announced an 8 p.m. curfew for the South Beach entertainment district. He also said shore-bound traffic on the city's causeways would be shuttered.

Both measures will be in effect for at least 72 hours, the mayor said, while extending the emergency is debated by officials.

"As we hit the peak of the peak of spring break, we are quite simply overwhelmed," City Manager Raul Aguila said.

Crowds last night resembled those of a rock concert, according to officials.

"You couldn't see pavement and you couldn't see grass," Aguila said.

On Thursday night, along the city's famed Ocean Drive, police used pepper balls in an effort to break up a restaurant brawl, according to NBC South Florida.

Citing the crowds, the Clevelander South Beach hotel said it was temporarily shutting down its bar and restaurant services.

"Recently, we have grown increasingly concerned with the safety of our dedicated employees and valued customers and the ability of the City to maintain a safe environment in the surrounding area," the hotel said in a statement.

Police Chief Rick Clements said his officers responded to multiple fights on South Beach on Friday night. Tables and chairs were used as impromptu weapons, according to the chief.

During Saturday's news conference, the mayor blamed some of the crowding on accessible travel.

"There are a lot of cheap flights," Gelber said. "Last month you could get here from Philadelphia, New York, or Chicago for $50 round trip."

themacattack. · 21-03-2021 08:18AM

kowloonkev wrote: »

The vast majority of people understand the situation. They may not be happy with everything but they don't complain much. They understand that we are only one more deadly, vaccine proof variant away from starting this all over again from scratch. They comprehend the precariousness of the situation and are prepared to be patient.

That's the reason why undesirables, undereducated and those without social standing are the only people you see on the streets every weekend.

by jove old chap u hit the nail on the head,the rif raf that would even contemplate protesting our great leaders jolly good show really are the dreggs of society,im wincing at the thoughts of the bottom feeders....how ghastly

gozunda · 21-03-2021 08:42AM

Whatsisname wrote: »

What you think life is like in the UK right now is vastly different from reality.

Whats detailed are the current active restrictions and what in in the UK 'roadmap'

pjohnson · 21-03-2021 08:58AM

themacattack. wrote: »

by jove old chap u hit the nail on the head,the rif raf that would even contemplate protesting our great leaders jolly good show really are the dreggs of society,im wincing at the thoughts of the bottom feeders....how ghastly

About 150 so called "respectable business owners" were protesting yesterday. There were signs saying "Death Jab" and 11 more arrests made I'm starting to doubt the whole respectable business owner/not a conspiracist claim.

themacattack. · 21-03-2021 09:08AM

pjohnson wrote: »

About 150 so called "respectable business owners" were protesting yesterday. There were signs saying "Death Jab" and 11 more arrests made I'm starting to doubt the whole respectable business owner/not a conspiracist claim.

unless you are going to ask each and every person at a protest why they are there and what their views are its impossible to make sweeping statements about anyone in a crowd where a few might have placards made up representing their own personal views....especially in covid times as theres so many different angles now its not one size fits all...i believe everyone has a right to protest non violently if they feel their government is making a pigs ear of restrictions and destroying jobs and livelyhoods un-neccesarily..

Kiith · 21-03-2021 09:40AM

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0321/1205220-lockdown-protest-dublin-court/

Is this RTE's new way of trying to scare people away from protesting? Name and shame on their website? Can't think of any other time where they'd list the names and addresses of people accused like this.

the kelt · 21-03-2021 09:43AM

I don’t understand why people see protest etc as some form of barometer for what’s going on and what people are thinking to be honest.

People seem to be obsessed with them and who attends them as being some form of sign or indicator.

It’s like “oh only z amount turned up to protest I guess my point made anonymously about something on an Internet forum must be true so” ha ha ha.

We don’t do protests in this country and when we do there’s an element who just want to protest about everything. A friend of mine was telling me when he was on a farmers protest in Dublin a fella asked to get up and speak, that fella was Anto from the inner city who didn’t even know what he was protesting about!

If people want to be simple enough to believe EVERYONE on a protest is some scrote looking for a row then good luck to them in their simplicity and if others want to believe because people don’t attend protest then that’s a barometer for well everyone is ok with things again, good luck to them in their simplicity!

pjohnson · 21-03-2021 09:46AM

Kiith wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0321/1205220-lockdown-protest-dublin-court/

Is this RTE's new way of trying to scare people away from protesting? Name and shame on their website? Can't think of any other time where they'd list the names and addresses of people accused like this.

Thats a good change tbf.

Locotastic · 21-03-2021 09:52AM

Kiith wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0321/1205220-lockdown-protest-dublin-court/

Is this RTE's new way of trying to scare people away from protesting? Name and shame on their website? Can't think of any other time where they'd list the names and addresses of people accused like this.

Can't say I've seen them do that before either, it's bizarre. Reminds me of the tax evaders list on Revenue!

21-03-2021 09:56AM

Kiith wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0321/1205220-lockdown-protest-dublin-court/

Is this RTE's new way of trying to scare people away from protesting? Name and shame on their website? Can't think of any other time where they'd list the names and addresses of people accused like this.

Looks like scare tactics alright, they must be getting worried.

Allinall · 21-03-2021 09:59AM

Kiith wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0321/1205220-lockdown-protest-dublin-court/

Is this RTE's new way of trying to scare people away from protesting? Name and shame on their website? Can't think of any other time where they'd list the names and addresses of people accused like this.

Normal reporting from RTÉ.

They always name people who have been charged in court.

It’s a current news story.

Benimar · 21-03-2021 10:03AM

Of course it’s normal reporting. People are always named once they appear in court (unless it involves a minor)

hamburgham · 21-03-2021 10:11AM

Kiith wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0321/1205220-lockdown-protest-dublin-court/

Is this RTE's new way of trying to scare people away from protesting? Name and shame on their website? Can't think of any other time where they'd list the names and addresses of people accused like this.

The shocking crime of not giving their name and address necessitates publication for all to see. That comes across as pure vindictiveness. It is disgraceful and yes it is to deter others.

Boggles · 21-03-2021 10:15AM

pjohnson wrote: »

About 150 so called "respectable business owners" were protesting yesterday. There were signs saying "Death Jab" and 11 more arrests made I'm starting to doubt the whole respectable business owner/not a conspiracist claim.

Edward Lloyd, 42, from Ryevale Lawns, Leixlip, Co Kildare was charged with failing to give his name and address when required by a garda on Victoria Quay.

He was also charged with possession of a knife

You'd have to wonder why a humble business owner would bring a knife to an anti vax "protest".

LessOutragePlz · 21-03-2021 10:18AM

Kiith wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0321/1205220-lockdown-protest-dublin-court/

Is this RTE's new way of trying to scare people away from protesting? Name and shame on their website? Can't think of any other time where they'd list the names and addresses of people accused like this.

It could have the opposite effect, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that organisers of future protests could tell people to get arrested by saying something along the lines of RTE published 10 names the last time we protested let's see if they'll publish 50 or 100 names etc.. It's a dangerous game they're playing.

Allinall · 21-03-2021 10:19AM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

It could have the opposite effect, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that organisers of future protests could tell people to get arrested by saying something along the lines of RTE published 10 names the last time we protested let's see if they'll publish 50 or 100 names etc.. It's a dangerous game they're playing.

Dangerous?

How do?

namloc1980 · 21-03-2021 10:29AM

Imagine failing to give your name and address to a Garda and having your name published for that in the national media. Nothing "normal" about that despite the best efforts of people here to project this as standard practice. I have never seen that before. Intimidation tactic plain and simple.

gozunda · 21-03-2021 10:31AM

Boggles wrote: »

You'd have to wonder why a humble business owner would bring a knife to an anti vax "protest".

Making sandwiches?

Benimar · 21-03-2021 10:31AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Imagine failing to give your name and address to a Garda and having your name published for that in the national media. Nothing "normal" about that despite the best efforts of people here to project this as standard practice. I have never seen that before.

Probably because most people know it’s an offence not to give your name and address to a Garda, so don’t end up in court as a result?

It is absolutely standard practice to name people who appear in court.

Allinall · 21-03-2021 10:32AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Imagine failing to give your name and address to a Garda and having your name published for that in the national media. Nothing "normal" about that despite the best efforts of people here to project this as standard practice. I have never seen that before. Intimidation tactic plain and simple.

Who’s intimidated?

namloc1980 · 21-03-2021 10:32AM

Benimar wrote: »

Probably because most people know it’s an offence not to give your name and address to a Garda, so don’t end up in court as a result?

It is absolutely standard practice to name people who appear in court.

Can you point to previous national media stories of someone being named and shamed after being charged for not giving their name to a Garda? As it's "standard practice" there should be plenty of examples.

Neagra · 21-03-2021 10:39AM

Locotastic wrote: »

Can't say I've seen them do that before either, it's bizarre. Reminds me of the tax evaders list on Revenue!

its absolutely outrageous.
names and addresses.
we are slipping into very dangerous waters,
the heads of the government, its agencies and the state broadcaster are conspiring to quash what little freedoms we have left in this country.
if we dont stand up to them now we really are doomed.

peter hitchens was attacked for making those very same suggestions in the UK, he has since been proven right by the actions of the police, government agencies and the state media.
when an 80 plus woman is receiving police cautions for having a cup of tea with one friend outside her house you know something sinister has happened.

niallo27 · 21-03-2021 10:40AM

Ah lads, quit the bollox. Its not standard for rte to print the names. If that was the case you would have 100s of names printed every Sunday morning after a Saturday night before covid. We get you are in favour of lockdowns but the narrative that anyone questioning lockdown is a scumbag fool or morally weak as we were told last night is stopping any discussion at all.

Happydays2020 · 21-03-2021 10:41AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Imagine failing to give your name and address to a Garda and having your name published for that in the national media. Nothing "normal" about that despite the best efforts of people here to project this as standard practice. I have never seen that before. Intimidation tactic plain and simple.

I think those protesters are idiots but I also worry about what we have become as a society.

Allinall · 21-03-2021 10:43AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Ah lads, quit the bollox. Its not standard for rte to print the names. If that was the case you would have 100s of names printed every Sunday morning after a Saturday night before covid. We get you are in favour of lockdowns but the narrative that anyone questioning lockdown is a scumbag fool or morally weak as we were told last night is stopping any discussion at all.

A normal Saturday night before COVID was not newsworthy.

A protest during a pandemic is.

hynesie08 · 21-03-2021 10:43AM

Clearly a lot of people here aren't familiar with the court pages. Names addresses and photos regularly printed.

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