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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #6812
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Only 2-days ago, I mentioned that the AZ vaccine blood clot problem was a political question and not a medical problem.

    I also went on to say that, over the coming days, the EU would launch a fresh attack on the UK.

    And only yesterday, the EU answered precisely that: now threatening to prevent vaccine export to the UK.

    More politics, all of which is at the expense of both EU citizens and UK citizens alike.

    Revolting.


  • #6813
    Marty Bird
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    Brought the kids to see my mother yesterday, outside in the garden, first time since Christmas. My 5 year old asked me last night are we going to be in trouble for breaking the rules. Sad.

    Why would your child at 5 years of age even know the rules? crazy times indeed.

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • #6814
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    silverharp wrote: »
    one for a ladies but you can get your own winerack booze bra :pac:

    https://www.amazon.com/Original-WineRack-Booze-Bra-Flask/dp/B0815YRKBF/ref=sr_1_36?dchild=1&keywords=alcohol+smuggling+containers&qid=1616066570&sr=8-36

    No need to be so genderist. Booze bras are for everyone


  • #6815
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,429 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    I understand the AZ and supply issues but even still that cant be right can it? Maybe the data is still being updated

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1372509356873383944


  • #6816
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Only 2-days ago, I mentioned that the AZ vaccine blood clot problem was a political question and not a medical problem.

    I also went on to say that, over the coming days, the EU would launch a fresh attack on the UK.

    And only yesterday, the EU answered precisely that: now threatening to prevent vaccine export to the UK.

    More politics, all of which is at the expense of both EU citizens and UK citizens alike.

    Revolting.

    Was started by Norway - not in the EU. More and more non EU countries have also suspended use.

    Hopefully today the EMA will issue an update and we resume


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  • #6817
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,812 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    john4321 wrote: »
    Any chance you would back that up with a few stats or articles?
    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    There's an article from October in the time condemning the amount of deaths in nursing homes being higher than all other countries in Europe. People run it out to support this claim constantly.

    If you look in depth we see (since the Swedish example was used) Sweden has more deaths in people over 80 per capita than we have total deaths.

    Sweden has twice our population so you would expect twice the deaths. Our total deaths is 4,500.

    They have 9,130 deaths in people over 80 years of age. Given that Sweden has twice as many people as we do we can say that there's as many deaths per capita in people over 80 in Sweden as we have total deaths.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107913/number-of-coronavirus-deaths-in-sweden-by-age-groups/

    Reveals the previous posters claims as made up.

    I’ll back it here, these are from a few weeks ago but it’s where I’m backing up my claim that an over 65 year old was safer in Sweden than Ireland

    Ireland has about 4181 deaths in the over 65 age group, with about 650,000 citizens in that group, giving a death rate of 643 per 100,000

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/epidemiologyofcovid-19inirelandweeklyreports/COVID-19%20Weekly%20Report_%20Week%2010_%20Slideset_HPSC_v1.0%20-Website.pdf

    Sweden has about 12,300 deaths in the over 65 age group which had about 2,000,000 citizens, giving a death rate of 615 per 100k

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107913/number-of-coronavirus-deaths-in-sweden-by-age-groups/

    So despite the second posters confident reply, it only highlights a gross misunderstanding of risks and statistics.

    Calculated out, an Irish citizens over 65 is at more risk than a Swedish citizen over 65.


  • #6818
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Eod100 wrote: »
    I understand the AZ and supply issues but even still that cant be right can it? Maybe the data is still being updated

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1372509356873383944

    Why, if you can administer all the vaccines you have Monday to Saturday, would you pay overtime on Sunday?


  • #6819
    newuser99999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭newuser99999


    Marty Bird wrote: »
    Why would your child at 5 years of age even know the rules? crazy times indeed.

    Pretty hard to avoid?

    I’m sure a child would even pick up how strange it is that you have to wear a mask and sanitize your hands before going into a shop and all the signs and markings on the floor.


  • #6820
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,682 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Only 2-days ago, I mentioned that the AZ vaccine blood clot problem was a political question and not a medical problem.

    I also went on to say that, over the coming days, the EU would launch a fresh attack on the UK.

    And only yesterday, the EU answered precisely that: now threatening to prevent vaccine export to the UK.

    More politics, all of which is at the expense of both EU citizens and UK citizens alike.

    Revolting.
    On the blood clotting issues, Norway, Iceland, Congo, Indonesia, Thailand have/had all paused it. Hardly EU countries.

    On the threat of blocking vaccine exports:
    USA: 113mil dosed, Zero exported
    UK: 27mil dosed, zero exported (they have actually imported nearly 20mil from the EU)
    India: 37mil dosed, 55mil exported
    EU: 53mil dosed, 45mil exported.

    SII was supposed to export 10mil doses to the UK, but the Indian government stepped in an only allowed 5mil exported while they take stock of their own vaccine plan. So why are the UK media talking about the EU's potential ban, while the Indian government have actually banned 5mil doses being exported?


  • #6821
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    Marty Bird wrote: »
    Why would your child at 5 years of age even know the rules? crazy times indeed.

    School i presume. It was heartbreaking. Will probably tell his teacher today now


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  • #6822
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wolf359f wrote: »

    On the threat of blocking vaccine exports:
    USA: 113mil dosed, Zero exported
    UK: 27mil dosed, zero exported (they have actually imported nearly 20mil from the EU)
    India: 37mil dosed, 55mil exported
    EU: 53mil dosed, 45mil exported.

    The EU isn't a country.


  • #6823
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    On the blood clotting issues, Norway, Iceland, Congo, Indonesia, Thailand have/had all paused it. Hardly EU countries.

    On the threat of blocking vaccine exports:
    USA: 113mil dosed, Zero exported
    UK: 27mil dosed, zero exported (they have actually imported nearly 20mil from the EU)
    India: 37mil dosed, 55mil exported
    EU: 53mil dosed, 45mil exported.

    SII was supposed to export 10mil doses to the UK, but the Indian government stepped in an only allowed 5mil exported while they take stock of their own vaccine plan. So why are the UK media talking about the EU's potential ban, while the Indian government have actually banned 5mil doses being exported?

    It is quite frightening the number of people who seem otherwise intelligent, who swallow little englander propaganda in the UK media hook line and sinker


  • #6824
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It is quite frightening the number of people who seem otherwise intelligent, who swallow little englander propaganda in the UK media hook line and sinker

    I can mirror the same argument back to you re: the EU.


  • #6825
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,613 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why, if you can administer all the vaccines you have Monday to Saturday, would you pay overtime on Sunday?

    what about the OT on saturday?


  • #6826
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Only 2-days ago, I mentioned that the AZ vaccine blood clot problem was a political question and not a medical problem.

    I also went on to say that, over the coming days, the EU would launch a fresh attack on the UK.

    The EU vaccination program, has been so sluggish in comparison to UK and now US , getting bogged down in its over-bureacratic structure - I hope the pause in AZ vaccination is not political, but EMA have already stated vaccine is safe , and valuable days, and overall vaccination confidence been hindered - its either safe or not , and the data so far suggests that it is .

    Europe is now facing a third wave of Covid, while UK and US figures drop rapidly , Ursula Von der Leyen needs to starting acting , not talking.


  • #6827
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Only 2-days ago, I mentioned that the AZ vaccine blood clot problem was a political question and not a medical problem.

    I also went on to say that, over the coming days, the EU would launch a fresh attack on the UK.

    And only yesterday, the EU answered precisely that: now threatening to prevent vaccine export to the UK.

    More politics, all of which is at the expense of both EU citizens and UK citizens alike.

    Revolting.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    The EU isn't a country.

    Suddenly when the polemic is challenged with real data someone cannot refer to the EU as a single entity anymore?


  • #6828
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tom1ie wrote: »
    what about the OT on saturday?

    OT is a lot cheaper on a Saturday, and many healthcare settings operate close to normal on Saturdays


  • #6829
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,682 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The EU isn't a country.

    I'm not quite sure what relevance that makes?
    If you want to get technical, it was Italy (a country) who blocked AZ exporting to Australia.


  • #6830
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,429 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why, if you can administer all the vaccines you have Monday to Saturday, would you pay overtime on Sunday?

    Is that the reason? Would make more sense alright so


  • #6831
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The EU isn't a country.

    It is a bloc though so the point stands.


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  • #6832
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    On the blood clotting issues, Norway, Iceland, Congo, Indonesia, Thailand have/had all paused it. Hardly EU countries.

    On the threat of blocking vaccine exports:
    USA: 113mil dosed, Zero exported
    UK: 27mil dosed, zero exported (they have actually imported nearly 20mil from the EU)
    India: 37mil dosed, 55mil exported
    EU: 53mil dosed, 45mil exported.

    SII was supposed to export 10mil doses to the UK, but the Indian government stepped in an only allowed 5mil exported while they take stock of their own vaccine plan. So why are the UK media talking about the EU's potential ban, while the Indian government have actually banned 5mil doses being exported?

    UK did export approx 220k vaccines to Australia though didn't they?


  • #6833
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,682 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    UK did export approx 220k vaccines to Australia though didn't they?

    They helped Australia source them, there was no mention of where they came from.


  • #6834
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    UK did export approx 220k vaccines to Australia though didn't they?
    The only two sources I can find are the Tory media (SkyNews & Telegraph) saying that the UK "helped source" vaccines for Australia.

    I expect that was a shipment from India or something. If they were exported from the UK, they wouldn't have been shy in saying it.


  • #6835
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    You absolutely are smug, and contradicting yourself.

    Keep drip feeding the very convenient justifications, Maggie. You can't accuse someone of shaming when you only just mentioned the health care detail-but you just wanted to have your dig didn't you?

    And your other adult child you see? You absolutely did NOT mention the one daughter had post natal depression at the beginning of your posts. Now you're being deliberately disingenuous to try save face on this.

    Ah now it's "harassment" because you've been caught out being smug about disregarding health guidelines. So is my turn now to be smug to tell you that if you're so upset about conversations on boards maybe you should get outside? :)

    She has mentioned all of the above regarding her family over the course of the last year on the various covid threads. None of it is new information, if you’ve been following the threads. It’s not like today was the first time she mentioned any of it.
    So she isn’t justifying herself to you at all, or trying to ‘save face’ - not that she has to justify herself in the first place. Regardless of her personal situation, she doesn’t owe you or anyone else here an explanation for her actions.


  • #6836
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,193 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Deleted User wrote: »
    have a lovely day............you really need to chill a bit..............we are a year into Covid and this level of stress and blame without even knowing a poster is rather alarming :)

    Whats alarming is what these people are going to do when even they can no longer justify their ranting and raving about covid every day.

    Living in fear is a horrible thing, but what happens when it consumes your life for an extended period of time and then is taken away? These people finger wagging at joggers on the street or lecturing strangers online, what are they going to turn to next?

    There are a lot of ticking time bombs out there if you ask me, more victims of the tunnel vision reaction to covid we have had in this country.


  • #6837
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm looking forward to the ebullient and buoyant performance from Philip Nolan tonight; what has become a sunny conclusion to my Thursday evenings.


  • #6838
    redmgar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭redmgar


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Whats alarming is what these people are going to do when even they can no longer justify their ranting and raving about covid every day.

    Living in fear is a horrible thing, but what happens when it consumes your life for an extended period of time and then is taken away? These people finger wagging at joggers on the street or lecturing strangers online, what are they going to turn to next?

    There are a lot of ticking time bombs out there if you ask me, more victims of the tunnel vision reaction to covid we have had in this country.

    Just people need to get a social outlet rather than trying to point score on an anonymous boards site.


  • #6839
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,892 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    bucketybuck wrote:
    Whats alarming is what these people are going to do when even they can no longer justify their ranting and raving about covid every day.
    Get back out working and enjoying the freedoms of a healthy society I'd imagine.


  • #6840
    Glenomra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Isn't it great to know that while enormous areas of our economy are wilting, and some dying, one of our senior government ministers has time to deal with the most important issue of changing the name of the Kerryman newspaper. Another indication of how out of touch our elites have become in Ireland


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  • #6841
    Call me Al
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Why, if you can administer all the vaccines you have Monday to Saturday, would you pay overtime on Sunday?

    Yes.
    Because you've a backlog of 30k astrazeneca that hasn't been distributed, those appointments have already been cancelled, and according to news reports these people apparently can't all be accommodated until mid April.
    So maybe its time for them to use all 7 days of the week to clear this backlog.


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