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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #6782
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Yeah and if this is the case why are we putting so much weight behind daily numbers?
    Surely hospitalisations are now the important barometer.
    The 5 day, 7 day and 14 day trends show the progress of the disease and possible future hospitalisations. That said I agree that numbers hospitalised are of more importance.


  • #6783
    Boggerman12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭Boggerman12


    In my local town yesterday the Garda were a joke.they hassling on the way to local lidl was it essential journey etc while they were being softly softie on our ethnic minority “friends” who were having a big gathering in the graveyard for an anniversary.got stopped by a right obnoxious young Garda who when challenged on the 5 km bs had nothing to say.
    They wouldn’t be seen if anything kicked off with our ethnic minority but piss off everyone else


  • #6784
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Cork City was a beaut to see yesterday. People out by Electric, sitting down on the green/boardwalk having lots of craic. Music playing, lots of fun. Guards drove by a good few times but they didn't give a crap.

    Roll on normality. It was absolutely lovely to see.

    Of course, when we got collected our taxi driver was giving out that cases would rise because of it. You can't win.


  • #6785
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Deleted User wrote: »
    people have made up their minds and its fantastic to see.
    We may not be at protests but everyone I know has given up on 5km, and everyone I know is meeting more than 1 person. Its called living.

    You cannot stop living because you are afraid of dying. And very few people are afraid of Covid at this stage. Everything outdoor should be open.

    That's a bs assumption and shíte thing to say tbh. People aren't stopping living because they're afraid of dying. They're doing their best not to be part of the problem, which is overwhelming the hospitals and passing the virus on to someone in a chain reaction who may not be ok.

    If everyone took your attitude our hospitals would be in serious trouble and there would be senseless illness and death. Cop on.


  • #6786
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Yeah and if this is the case why are we putting so much weight behind daily numbers?
    Surely hospitalisations are now the important barometer.

    Is it not obviously that hospitalisations follow cases...:confused:

    So they're both important until we have more vulnerable vaccinated.


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  • #6787
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    To be fair, these are not just simple outdoor gatherings.These were large groups of kids all in each others faces. There's no mitigating for that.

    The same kids who have been in school for various periods of the last 12 months?


  • #6788
    FlubberJones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    That's a bs assumption and shíte thing to say tbh. People aren't stopping living because they're afraid of dying. They're doing their best not to be part of the problem, which is overwhelming the hospitals and passing the virus on to someone in a chain reaction who may not be ok.

    If everyone took your attitude our hospitals would be in serious trouble and there would be senseless illness and death. Cop on.

    Look around you, I think you'll find it is not "bs".... and certainly not ****e, happening everywhere, if you don't believe it that's you walking around with blinkers on


  • #6789
    Rosita
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    Cork City was a beaut to see yesterday. People out by Electric, sitting down on the green/boardwalk having lots of craic. Music playing, lots of fun. Guards drove by a good few times but they didn't give a crap.

    Maybe the Guards "didn't give a crap" because people weren't breaking the law? Nobody has said you cannot sit on a green or play music or have "lots of craic".


  • #6790
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,071 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Rosita wrote: »
    Maybe the Guards "didn't give a crap" because people weren't breaking the law? Nobody has said you cannot sit on a green or play music or have "lots of craic".

    Isn't it against restrictions to meet up with people outdoors? Guards just couldn't be bothered to enforce it.


  • #6791
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Rosita wrote: »
    Maybe the Guards "didn't give a crap" because people weren't breaking the law? Nobody has said you cannot sit on a green or play music or have "lots of craic".


    Oh absolutely! But you'd expect that with lots out in groups, that they'd be a little testy. They weren't, and it seemed they were a bit fascinated with what was going on.


    Now there was madness in the Lough alright. Absolute scenes!


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  • #6792
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    titan18 wrote: »
    Isn't it against restrictions to meet up with people outdoors? Guards just couldn't be bothered to enforce it.

    I genuinely couldn't tell you what the current restrictions are .


  • #6793
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    titan18 wrote: »
    Isn't it against restrictions to meet up with people outdoors? Guards just couldn't be bothered to enforce it.
    There's this
    People may meet with people from one other household in outdoor settings when taking exercise.

    and this.
    No social or family gatherings should take place in other settings.

    Should gives you the out here!


  • #6794
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,359 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    FlubberJones wrote: »
    Look around you, I think you'll find it is not "bs".... and certainly not ****e, happening everywhere, if you don't believe it that's you walking around with blinkers on

    I went to a Dublin park yesterday before 12 . Everywhere were families putting down rugs for picnics and another family close by on another rug .I saw nanas and grandas on benches watching grandchildren play and chatting to family at a 1-2 metre distance .All adults who know they quite simply cannot carry on in isolation and are risk assessing and doing what is least risky . The laughter and smiles and happy grandparents was a joy to see and the naked fear was gone .We have to carry on now and outdoor meetings must be encouraged at this point or the people will quite simply decide


  • #6795
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,071 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    is_that_so wrote: »
    There's this



    and this.



    Should gives you the out here!

    Ya, I doubt drinking in a park counts as exercise so that wouldn't count, but ya, doubt guards are enforcing the should restriction part.


  • #6796
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    That's a bs assumption and shíte thing to say tbh. People aren't stopping living because they're afraid of dying. They're doing their best not to be part of the problem, which is overwhelming the hospitals and passing the virus on to someone in a chain reaction who may not be ok.

    If everyone took your attitude our hospitals would be in serious trouble and there would be senseless illness and death. Cop on.

    is that "cop on" thing still going on? Maybe you should take some of your own advice! You do you and I'll do me!

    I live alone. I walk alone, hike alone, swim alone. I look after my health and I'm slim and fit. So I also "do my best not to be part of the problem" I was delighted to see people out enjoying themselves yesterday. Nobody was taking chances.
    At this stage my 7 month pregnant daughter had Covid, her 18 month old toddler, her parents in law who are very overweight in their 60's and 18 members of my immediate family (I have 7 siblings with kids, a lot who work in healthcare).

    My 87 year old mother has also had Covid. All have recovered, none had serious symptoms, although we were obviously worried about my mother, none have "long" Covid.

    I have made up my own mind. I would prefer to live my life with the associated risk of getting Covid than hide under my bed for another year. I wear a mask and I regularly see my adult kids and 2 grandkids, I also met 3 friends last week on different days and it was fab!

    But I'm not stopping you doing just that. You have to make decisions for yourself. I will NOT allow the Government and NPHET (none of whom are affected by job loss like I have) decide how I live my life.

    (Meanwhile our Government haven't even got the vaccination programme efficiently set up, there's inadequate staff, inadequate training, inadequate locations for WHEN we do get a bigger supply from J&J. We will have enough vaccine but not enough vaccinators despite retired consultants, radiographers and phlebotomists offering their services but being refused by the HSE!!! )


  • #6797
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Is it not obviously that hospitalisations follow cases...:confused:

    So they're both important until we have more vulnerable vaccinated.

    That’s the question I originally asked.
    With more and more of the vulnerable getting vaccinated surely this will have an effect on the amount of people going into hospital.
    So maybe it’s not as linear as it was that hospitalisations go up at the same rate as new cases due to vaccines.


  • #6798
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Ahhh thanks for the laugh! "Nobody taking chances.." are you for real? After just reading that people are in each others faces (??) lack of social distancing and of course nobody had parties or people over yesterday...:rolleyes:

    Just because no one you know got seriously ill doesn't mean that others haven't. FFS have some respect for the people who are actually suffering or lost their lives. They matter too.

    That long rant just goes to show how much you feel you need to justify this rubbish.

    It wasn't a rant, it was a reply and it was calm and measured.
    You sound very overwrought to be honest. It's you who is swearing, calling people's posts "bull****" and "****e"" not to mention the above FFS in black :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Nobody I saw yesterday was "in each other's faces"! All having a wonderful time within family groups.
    Have a lovely day, I'm off for my swim. I'd advise taking some time off Boards if you feel so upset. You will see life, nature, people all re-starting at this time of the year, its beautiful......... and it will help reduce your stress levels :)


  • #6799
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    You sound like you're having a shíte on everyone else doing their best not to be a problem and pass it on, and on the healthcare workers too.

    In the same post you claim to be doing your best not to be part of the problem and waffling on about all the things you do alone then you unbelievably say:


    I'd advise you having some respect instead of feeling entitled that you're above the rules unlike the rest of us.

    I have the utmost respect for people. I live alone and my daughter and her 2 babies are in my bubble ........... I have been minding them a few days a week (my daughter has post natal depression, I have spoken about this previously here).

    I met 3 friends separately, on 3 different days, all outside, all exercise within 5km. Is that ok?

    have a lovely day............you really need to chill a bit..............we are a year into Covid and this level of stress and blame without even knowing a poster is rather alarming :)


  • #6800
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,359 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    You sound like you're having a shíte on everyone else doing their best not to be a problem and pass it on, and on the healthcare workers too.

    In the same post you claim to be doing your best not to be part of the problem and waffling on about all the things you do alone then you unbelievably say:


    I'd advise you having some respect instead of feeling entitled that you're above the rules unlike the rest of us.

    .

    Are you aware that people are allowed form a bubble with others and also allowed in a house for essential childcare .?Are you also aware that we can meet a friend for exercise ? Try it one day it might be to your benefit


  • #6801
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Ah lads/lassies


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  • #6802
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,071 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Are you aware that people are allowed form a bubble with others and also allowed in a house for essential childcare .?Are you also aware that we can meet a friend for exercise ? Try it one day it might be to your benefit

    You can form a support bubble with another household if you:

    are living alone with children under the age of 18
    live alone
    share parenting or custody arrangements
    live with an adult you provide care for (for example a dependent adult relation or a partner with dementia)
    live by yourself and have a carer or carers who support you, including a live-in carer

    Tbh, that's a very small amount of people in those categories.

    For exercise, you can meet with one other household for exercise within the 5k. Drinking in a park isn't exercise.


  • #6803
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Why is the EU bemoaning the lack of supply of AZ vaccine, yet most of its countyrys are still suspending its use ?

    Seams very strange, and when will they officially announce suspension is ended, EMA have already said it is safe. Seams incredibly bureaucratic in a pandemic , when the 3rd wave is in EU now.


  • #6804
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Have a lovely swim Maggie, everyone has their own justifications, right? Very disingenuous of you to come out with your convenient details at the end of all your smugness - which was about the government and NPHET "NOT" telling you how to live your life and how you wouldn't hide under your bed, not your extenuating circumstances.

    If 18 members of your immediate family all had covid that should tell you something. And how many people did they pass it to?

    You should chill within the guidelines a little more. :)

    all of them are healthcare workers (ICU Nurse, midwifery and mental health services) or spouses/children of same. Spread over the UK, Donegal, Westmeath and Limerick. Are you Covid shaming healthcare workers now because without exception that is what they all are?


    I am not smug. I don't tell you how to live your life as I don't know anything about you

    Why would I say at the beginning of my posts that my daughter has post natal depression and THAT is why I see her? That is nobody's business but I had to tell you to stop your harassment.


  • #6805
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,359 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    titan18 wrote: »
    You can form a support bubble with another household if you:

    are living alone with children under the age of 18
    live alone
    share parenting or custody arrangements
    live with an adult you provide care for (for example a dependent adult relation or a partner with dementia)
    live by yourself and have a carer or carers who support you, including a live-in carer

    Tbh, that's a very small amount of people in those categories.

    For exercise, you can meet with one other household for exercise within the 5k. Drinking in a park isn't exercise.
    Sweetmaggie didnt say she was drinking in a park did she ?
    You can enter a house for essential childcare too which covers quite a lot of people around me actually .
    Many grandparents are essential childcare for many families . They always were


  • #6806
    yermandan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭yermandan


    Take it to PM


  • #6807
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    titan18 wrote: »
    You can form a support bubble with another household if you:

    are living alone with children under the age of 18
    live alone
    share parenting or custody arrangements
    live with an adult you provide care for (for example a dependent adult relation or a partner with dementia)
    live by yourself and have a carer or carers who support you, including a live-in carer

    Tbh, that's a very small amount of people in those categories.

    For exercise, you can meet with one other household for exercise within the 5k. Drinking in a park isn't exercise.

    Walk to the park, have a refreshment, walk home. Adequate hydration is an important part of exercise


  • #6808
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,071 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Walk to the park, have a refreshment, walk home. Adequate hydration is an important part of exercise

    Not sure any guard will buy you drinking a beer as adequate hydration, but it'd be worth a shot.


  • #6809
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    titan18 wrote: »
    Not sure any guard will buy you drinking a beer as adequate hydration, but it'd be worth a shot.

    It you dont have water it is:D


  • #6810
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    titan18 wrote: »
    Not sure any guard will buy you drinking a beer as adequate hydration, but it'd be worth a shot.


    one for a ladies but you can get your own winerack booze bra :pac:

    https://www.amazon.com/Original-WineRack-Booze-Bra-Flask/dp/B0815YRKBF/ref=sr_1_36?dchild=1&keywords=alcohol+smuggling+containers&qid=1616066570&sr=8-36

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  • #6811
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    Brought the kids to see my mother yesterday, outside in the garden, first time since Christmas. My 5 year old asked me last night are we going to be in trouble for breaking the rules. Sad.


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