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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,727 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    The Falcons will never be allowed to forget.

    https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1358977607145029632


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Shedite27 wrote: »
    The first segment of the Sky Sports broadcast on Sunday was talking about Wess. They had the 3 guys from the Podcast on talking about him. They were all getting teary so went to an adbreak and when they came back it was onto the game. Nice tribute, and a good way to do it without it clouding over the whole show.

    Rich Eissen said some nice words on the pregame show on NFL Network too
    https://www.nfl.com/videos/rich-eisen-pays-tribute-to-the-late-nfl-writer-podcaster-chris-wesseling

    Yeah I saw it and think it was very classy from sky sports. Dan Hanzus wasn’t far off crying and it was a wise move to cut it short. They did say at the end of the podcast Sunday night that they’d be taking some time off which is hardly surprising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    collybyrne wrote: »
    RIP Wess. Only found out late on Sunday myself, really heartbreaking news. I think all of us long time listeners were invested in Wess, especially since he beat it the first time. It was inspiring to watch someone who had been through what he had and then relish every second of life thereafter. His marriage and starting a family and the way he was able to talk about it without ever sounding sanctimonious. An extraordinary football mind and wealth of knowledge. Even if you didn't agree with him you had to respect his opinion because you knew he had done the work to back it up. Huge respect to the other guys on the pod too and the way they supported him and dealt with it on a week to week basis, can't imagine how hard it was watching their friend decline while fighting something so hard.

    He will be sadly sadly missed. F**k cancer.

    Yeah when when he married lakisha(who in her own right seems as genuinely nice as wess was) and then having their son, you did think that the rough time with cancer was over and he was going to enjoy life. I was worried when he was saying that he was having to take warm baths to help the pain he was in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Sad to see that Marty Schottenheimer has died.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,112 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Sad to see that Marty Schottenheimer has died.

    The Head Coach of the Chiefs when I first started following them in mid-90s. Never made it to the big dance unfortunately but a very good coach.

    Gutted about Chris Wessling, for me it’s the best podcast around on any topic and the four had such great chemistry. It won’t be the same without him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭paulie21


    Amazing to think Marty got fired after a 13-3 season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    The Head Coach of the Chiefs when I first started following them in mid-90s. Never made it to the big dance unfortunately but a very good coach.

    Gutted about Chris Wessling, for me it’s the best podcast around on any topic and the four had such great chemistry. It won’t be the same without him.

    He’s the first chargers head coach I remember. The Washington post had a poor headline when reporting his death as they pointed out his poor record in the playoffs. Hardly relevant today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    It didn't take long for Urban Meyer's famed lack of concern for player and staff backgrounds to surface in the NFL.

    Chris Doyle, former Iowa strength and conditioning coach at Iowa who lost his job over multiple claims of racism and bullying, has been hired in Jacksonville.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,929 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Has Doyle done courses to address those problems?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    JJ Watt posts moved to offseason thread.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,145 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    It didn't take long for Urban Meyer's famed lack of concern for player and staff backgrounds to surface in the NFL.

    Chris Doyle, former Iowa strength and conditioning coach at Iowa who lost his job over multiple claims of racism and bullying, has been hired in Jacksonville.

    And Doyle has resigned now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,727 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Former Bucs and Chargers WR Vincent Jackson found dead this morning. He was only 38. RIP.

    The press release reads like it might be suicide.

    https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1361432500141252611?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭paulie21




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,929 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I was hoping Drew would do one more season with how the last one ended. He was clearly very limited by his ribs.
    One of the all time great QBs.


  • Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He’s no Dante Culpepper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    140 million contract for Taysom Hill over 4 years. Except every year is voidable. Essentially breaks his cap hit over a few more years and brings the Saints a few million closer to being under the cap.


    Smart money is on Taysom being let go after this year and not seeing much of that cash. Definitely falls under weird and wacky.

    Also saw Jameis is their presumed starter next season as it stands. I get the headline figure is meaninglessbut weird seeing 1 qb get a 140 million contract and the other being named likely starter!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I know it started yesterday but tonight our time should be all kind of good stuff. It’s good to have some stuff NFL that’s new and isn’t from last season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I don’t think this fits into the off-season thread but deshaun Watson tweeted a statement concerning a lawsuit that has been filled against him regarding an allegation of sexual assault.

    https://twitter.com/bleacherreport/status/1372053609488080902?s=21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,929 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Yeah seen that and it likely scuppers his chances of a trade. Nobody will want to do a deal until that's all sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I don’t think this fits into the off-season thread but deshaun Watson tweeted a statement concerning a lawsuit that has been filled against him regarding an allegation of sexual assault.

    The lawyer involved is a neigbour of the Texans owner and paid to put up billboards to get the team to draft Manziel. Obviously there could be an issue there but the thing stinks.


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  • Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It looks as dirty as it gets on the Texans part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,929 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Foxtrol wrote:
    The lawyer involved is a neigbour of the Texans owner and paid to put up billboards to get the team to draft Manziel. Obviously there could be an issue there but the thing stinks.
    So he's not a friend of the owner. You are suggesting he is working off his own bat here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    The lawyer involved is a neigbour of the Texans owner and paid to put up billboards to get the team to draft Manziel. Obviously there could be an issue there but the thing stinks.

    Oh I didn’t know that. The optics don’t look great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    eagle eye wrote: »
    So he's not a friend of the owner. You are suggesting he is working off his own bat here?

    Whether a friend or not, the lawyer is in the owner's circle and has tried to use PR to impact the team in the past. To me that sounds extremely fishy, you're entitled to believe it is fully above board.

    Have you even read what the complaint is? Even if it turned out to be true, it wouldn't impact a trade at all. It is bad behaviour but teams are filled with far less talented players who have done far, far worse (without going into owners who have done worse themselves).

    https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1372186614399655938?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,929 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Foxtrol wrote:
    Whether a friend or not, the lawyer is in the owner's circle and has tried to use PR to impact the team in the past. To me that sounds extremely fishy, you're entitled to believe it is fully above board.
    I'm asking if you are suggesting the owner is involved.
    I'd find it hard to believe he's friends with a guy who was trying to push the team into signing Manziel.
    Foxtrol wrote:
    Have you even read what the complaint is? Even if it turned out to be true, it wouldn't impact a trade at all. It is bad behaviour but teams are filled with far less talented players who have done far, far worse (without going into owners who have done worse themselves).
    I have read it, it's more serious than deflate gate and look what happened there.
    Nobody has any idea what way Goodell will look at it so they'll want to wait until it's over.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I have read it, it's more serious than deflate gate and look what happened there.
    Nobody has any idea what way Goodell will look at it so they'll want to wait until it's over.

    Why would anyone even try to compare a sexual harassment complaint to a competitive cheating issue? That's just weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I'm asking if you are suggesting the owner is involved.
    I'd find it hard to believe he's friends with a guy who was trying to push the team into signing Manziel.

    I'm pointing to reasons why the case stinks to me. Aside from money he could earn, the lawyer has plenty of motive to bring this case due to his priors related to the team and his previous attention seeking PR attempts - including a failed run for mayor and a tank. The timing is also highly questionable, a year after the alleged incident.
    I have read it, it's more serious than deflate gate and look what happened there.
    Nobody has any idea what way Goodell will look at it so they'll want to wait until it's over.

    As already pointed out, it is very weird to compare a completely unsubstantiated relatively minor civil 'he said/she said' non-football related incident to what was deemed as cheating on the field (rightly or wrongly).

    I have no interest in going down a deflate-gate rabbit hole, so if you're trying to find an excuse to rant about it and claim to be the victim you can go ahead, I won't be responding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,929 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Podge_irl wrote:
    Why would anyone even try to compare a sexual harassment complaint to a competitive cheating issue? That's just weird.
    There was clear evidence that there was no cheating, it was proven that the balls would naturally deflate that much in the weather. That evidence was ignored.

    So in this case something that shows he is more than likely innocent might be ignored by Goodell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    eagle eye wrote: »
    There was clear evidence that there was no cheating, it was proven that the balls would naturally deflate that much in the weather.

    Wait, which one are we talking about here - deflategate or Watson asking for a hand shandy?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    The lawyer has come out with more complaints. No evidence has been presented yet and as they are taking the civil rather than criminal route the complainants haven't had to put themselves in any legal jeopardy making the allegations.

    Despite them using that obvious clown as their lawyer, a trend makes the original complaints appear more credible, even if there was no time for the lawyer to properly verify these new claims.


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