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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #6602
    Derek Zoolander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    69 more positive swabs than last Wednesday off roughly the same amount of tests.

    Honestly not that bad for a Wednesday and the little bump reported by GP data on Monday coming off the high ish numbers Thudsday & Friday last wrek.

    Not that bad in the context that it’s not increasing / but not good in the context that were in week 11 or 12 of lockdown and trend seems to be stalling in terms of rate of decline.

    This is really the time to focus on track and trace and really try to understand where the cases are coming from


  • #6603
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    Sadly we just got them and they ain't good... Wednesday bump I suppose

    669 positives from 15309 - 4.37% positivity.

    A lot of tests I suppose

    Case numbers today may still be OK as they often seem to mirror more closely yesterday's swabs


  • #6604
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Nothing to do with schools. :pac:

    Mass testing would point towards it not being schools. Can only go on the data available


  • #6605
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    Would assume tomorrow's number could be noticably low seen as today is a bank holiday.


  • #6606
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,812 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    kilns wrote: »
    It is real touch and go time for Ireland, it seems that the third wave is beginning to come in Europe, for example here in Switzerland, two weeks ago we were below 1000 cases a day today we are nearly double that up to 1900

    Can Ireland hold out under level 5 until the third wave subsides, if they do they could be opening up much sooner than any other country

    With regard to this new green travel pass, how likely that it will pass and Irish people will be able to travel abroad?

    That’s strange logic.

    Ireland may as well have had 10 waves with the severity of its mitigation measures.

    At least other nations are attempting to live with this disease


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  • #6607
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Derek Zoolander wrote: »
    Not that bad in the context that it’s not increasing / but not good in the context that were in week 11 or 12 of lockdown and trend seems to be stalling in terms of rate of decline.

    This is really the time to focus on track and trace and really try to understand where the cases are coming from

    I had hoped the press conferences end of last week and start of this week that someone might have asked about a handful of counties because there was 3 or 4 leading the increased numbers at the end of last week. Quite clearly some local outbreaks in the below counties

    https://twitter.com/rwallirl/status/1371921242312310785?s=19


  • #6608
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Mass testing would point towards it not being schools. Can only go on the data available

    Well if students and staff who were mass tested last week equalled a 2.4 per cent positivity rate, it has to be contributing to part of the increase no?


  • #6609
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    I had hoped the press conferences end of last week and start of this week that someone might have asked about a handful of counties because there was 3 or 4 leading the increased numbers at the end of last week

    https://twitter.com/rwallirl/status/1371921242312310785?s=19
    "Anyone with insights on Kildare, which is now clearly an outbreak?"

    Based on the LOKdown last year, meat plant is probably a good bet.


  • #6610
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Based on the LOKdown last year, meat plant is probably a good bet.

    That's what I thought but I've seen others posting that they've said 0.2% positivity in mass testing in those settings so who knows. Definitely something that needs to be asked at the press conferences because the increase is localised


  • #6611
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,573 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    Case numbers today may still be OK as they often seem to mirror more closely yesterday's swabs

    Then not great for tomorrow?????


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  • #6612
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,055 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Mass testing would point towards it not being schools. Can only go on the data available
    Are they testing randomly in the wider population? Or in schools?


  • #6613
    quokula
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,839 ✭✭✭quokula


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    That’s strange logic.

    Ireland may as well have had 10 waves with the severity of its mitigation measures.

    At least other nations are attempting to live with this disease

    Such a weird use of language, to describe accepting thousands more deaths as "living with" the disease, rather than what we're doing which is actually living with the disease by modifying our behaviours.


  • #6614
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    That's what I thought but I've seen others posting that they've said 0.2% positivity in mass testing in those settings so who knows. Definitely something that needs to be asked at the less conferences because the increase is localised

    The cynic in me would question how they are doing the mass testing in those settings. If they are using rapid tests what is the sensitivity / specificity of those.

    I've no information on this so feel free to discard. Thing is with any outbreak, it'll always end up in the community and numbers will be affected. Origin might not always be clear.


  • #6615
    Derek Zoolander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    I had hoped the press conferences end of last week and start of this week that someone might have asked about a handful of counties because there was 3 or 4 leading the increased numbers at the end of last week. Quite clearly some local outbreaks in the below counties

    https://twitter.com/rwallirl/status/1371921242312310785?s=19

    Key learning for me in this is that try to control everything it really needs to be at a very local level - almost at an LEA level.

    True control and then reduction also requires action that comprimises western culture in terms of freedom of moment


    Biggest miss this time round is the amount of people back in office environment - message just not be delivered effectively to people to stay at home


  • #6616
    Klonker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Klonker


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    That's what I thought but I've seen others posting that they've said 0.2% positivity in mass testing in those settings so who knows. Definitely something that needs to be asked at the less conferences because the increase is localised

    I seen mentioned about 2 weeks back that they were going to start using antigen testing in some meat factories and other high risk areas. I don't know if they actually straying to use them, does anyone know if they have?

    Any chance that they are doing this and if someone tests positive on the antigen test they then go forward for an PCR test? If this was the case it would also push the positivity number up. If it was just mass testing you'd expect low positivity.


  • #6617
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,071 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    We're never getting out of lockdown at this stage. Numbers increasing and then the activity that is likely happening today. Fcuk this life


  • #6618
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Sounds worthy of it's own thread. RTE has been ****e since before the pandemic. It's been unwatchable for decades, glad people are cottoning on.

    I heard on newstalk that some head the balls are organising a protest outside RTE in donnybrook today. Sounds like somewhere you could meet some like minded souls who feel passionately about making TV better for all.

    I personally change the channel when confronted with some RTE sh!te I don't like but each to their own.

    Update: Not a great turn out for the protest, we may have to live with biased, doomsday reporting and sh!te tv in general for some time to come :pac:


    https://twitter.com/Jim_Sheridan/status/1372192745352220674?s=20


  • #6619
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,211 ✭✭✭jackboy


    In my local rural area not many people out and about today but non essential construction work booming. Lots of substantial construction work going on with no effort to hide it. I think such construction work should be allowed but interesting that restriction is not being policed.


  • #6620
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Update: Not a great turn out for the protest, we may have to live with biased, doomsday reporting and sh!te tv in general for some time to come :pac:


    https://twitter.com/Jim_Sheridan/status/1372192745352220674?s=20

    Could be one of the greatest switcheroos ever seen in this State. Set up a few fake Facebook groups calling for mass protests in town. The government get 2,500 Garda to form one of the largest operations in the State to stop people attending. Meanwhile, everyone else pisses off to the beach or park for a bit of a get together with family and friends in peace and quiet without being hassled by the Garda.

    Genius stuff.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #6621
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Two St Patrick's Days in Temple Bar

    Top pic: this year

    Bottom pic: last year

    Ya'd miss the carnage in there all the same. And I'd grown to hate it before Covid


    9yq2hz9frjn61.jpg


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  • #6622
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    JRant wrote: »
    Could be one of the greatest switcheroos ever seen in this State. Set up a few fake Facebook groups calling for mass protests in town. The government get 2,500 Garda to form one of the largest operations in the State to stop people attending. Meanwhile, everyone else pisses off to the beach or park for a bit of a get together with family and friends in peace and quiet without being hassled by the Garda.

    Genius stuff.

    UNCONFIRMED: party in a park.

    Looks like a great laugh apart from the covid. (if true)

    Hopefully the gardai don't walk down the road. :pac:

    https://twitter.com/kazzie9t9/status/1372211384763744260?s=20


  • #6623
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Yep, sent the guards off to patrol one area and met up somewhere else.

    Herbert park is very busy.


  • #6624
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Hope people are enjoying the fine weather today, and Happy St. Patrick's Day to all. Common sense is needed on the pathway forward, bring the people with them rather than turn them against. Patrick O'Donovan from FG attempting to scaremonger on Prime Time last night is going to have the opposite effect. NPHET claiming we're at a 'crucial' phase of our Covid 'battle' is another reckless approach. We can all see hospitalisations are falling, deaths are falling, the worst of the post Christmas wave is over. This kind of language doesn't help and gives fuel to those who claim this is all a hoax.
    Abolish the 5k, allow people to meet outdoors, bring back outdoor sports, outdoor dining until say 8pm in the evening.. This would go a long way towards helping people cope until the vaccination programme picks up pace. Do whatever they have to do to get more vaccines, including pressuring the US today. We need to exit Level 5 in April, for it's symbolism more than anything else.
    Also, why is construction still partially closed?! It's an essential service.


  • #6625
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    UNCONFIRMED: party in a park.

    Looks like a great laugh apart from the covid. (if true)

    Hopefully the gardai don't walk down the road. :pac:

    https://twitter.com/kazzie9t9/status/1372211384763744260?s=20

    RTE will report that there were 10's of people at it.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #6626
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,573 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    JRant wrote: »
    RTE will report that there were 10's of people at it.

    Per RTE
    Several hundred anti-lockdown campaigners have assembled in Herbert Park in Ballsbridge.


  • #6627
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    I'm reading there's more guards and journalists on O Connell Street in Dublin than there are protestors


  • #6628
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's incredible that 12-months on from this pandemic, we are still stuck with the invasive PCR test as the gold standard.

    By all means create the vaccines, which is a tough ask in itself - but surely a far more accurate, less invasive, and rapid on-the-spot test could also have been created?

    I know some tests have been created, but they are still expensive and awkward to use en masse.

    It's a shame some form of immediate saliva test could not have been created, one with >99.5% accuracy.

    The sample type for any diagnostic test is taken from the sight that will yield the best sample.

    Nasopharyngeal swabs are the best specimen for respiratory viruses. Sputum would also be good but not easily produced. Bronchial washes are also good but more invasive than a swab up the nose. Saliva is too crude. Its full of possible contaminants. Very few tests are performed on saliva.

    PCR is a highly accurate method of analysis, despite the amount of daft misinformation out there. It is the most accurate method we have.


  • #6629
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,539 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Mass testing would point towards it not being schools. Can only go on the data available

    There is no mass testing in schools


  • #6630
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    Sadly we just got them and they ain't good... Wednesday bump I suppose

    669 positives from 15309 - 4.37% positivity.

    A lot of tests I suppose

    How today's numbers compares to the last two Wednesdays

    March 10th- 606 from 15592 tests
    March 3rd - 673 from 15277 tests


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  • #6631
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    UNCONFIRMED: party in a park.

    Looks like a great laugh apart from the covid. (if true)

    Hopefully the gardai don't walk down the road. :pac:

    https://twitter.com/kazzie9t9/status/1372211384763744260?s=20

    Would take Covid over listening to those speakers any day!


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