Law Firm Milkrounds 20/21

Fe1taker2020 · 13-03-2021 10:51PM

Hi can someone give an indication of what the salary would be like if you were to go in house once you qualify? Is is true that you usually have to take a salary cut?

lawgrad15 · 14-03-2021 12:10AM

Fe1taker2020 wrote: »

Hi can someone give an indication of what the salary would be like if you were to go in house once you qualify? Is is true that you usually have to take a salary cut?

While I can't quantify what the salary would be, it would largely depend on the company in question tbh. From my understanding of in house work, many people go for it as is many instances there appears to be a better work life balance. This for some people can be worth much more than having a higher salary.

Lallers96 · 14-03-2021 07:06PM

How many years are your FE1s valid when you have all 8 completed? I'm thinking of going abroad for a while and don't want this effort with the FE1s to be for nothing. Life as a young person in Ireland is quite bleak tbh.

Lallers96 · 14-03-2021 07:08PM

lawgrad15 wrote: »

While I can't quantify what the salary would be, it would largely depend on the company in question tbh. From my understanding of in house work, many people go for it as is many instances there appears to be a better work life balance. This for some people can be worth much more than having a higher salary.

Where are these in-house TCs advertised? I have alerts set up on LinkedIn for any mention of "Trainee Solictor" and I regularly check legalvacancies.ie but never see in-house roles other than ones for those already with PQE

FE1Hopefully1 · 14-03-2021 07:31PM

Lallers96 wrote: »

How many years are your FE1s valid when you have all 8 completed? I'm thinking of going abroad for a while and don't want this effort with the FE1s to be for nothing. Life as a young person in Ireland is quite bleak tbh.

Think it’s five years !

Lallers96 · 14-03-2021 08:28PM

It's been almost a month since the Lavelle Partners TC was posted (and Mullany Walsh Maxwells), has nobody here heard anything back from them? The Lavelle one was removed from legalvacanies a while back I noticed, and not one person here has received an interview or even a PFO. A bit odd since I wouldn't have thought they'd have less applicants than the big 5-10 firms.

roofus22 · 15-03-2021 10:18AM

If anybody hears from A&L let us know !

lawlassie · 15-03-2021 02:00PM

Anyone who applied for DE Summer Internship and not heard back holding out any hope? I saw offers were apparently sent out but can’t understand why everyone has been let know at different stages. Not feeling too hopeful myself

Legal19998 · 15-03-2021 02:47PM

lawlassie wrote: »

Anyone who applied for DE Summer Internship and not heard back holding out any hope? I emailed on Friday but no response yet. I saw offers were apparently sent out but can’t understand why everyone has been let know at different stages. Not feeling too hopeful myself

I don't know what to think anymore to be honest. Any updates I have received have been from this thread and even still I have only seen two people that have received rejection emails at different times. I haven't actually seen anyone being offered an intern position yet (on here, linked in etc) but I would find it most unusual for them to send out their rejections before their offers. I'm trying to be hopeful but it's getting exhausting not knowing and constantly checking my phone. Does anyone know someone who has actually received an offer?

ilovelaw1999 · 15-03-2021 03:04PM

Legal19998 wrote: »

I don't know what to think anymore to be honest. Any updates I have received have been from this thread and even still I have only seen two people that have received rejection emails at different times. I haven't actually seen anyone being offered an intern position yet (on here, linked in etc) but I would find it most unusual for them to send out their rejections before their offers. I'm trying to be hopeful but it's getting exhausting not knowing and constantly checking my phone. Does anyone know someone who has actually received an offer?

my friend received an offer last week!

lawgirl3400 · 15-03-2021 03:07PM

ilovelaw1999 wrote: »

my friend received an offer last week!

My friend got an offer early last week too!

lawlassie · 15-03-2021 03:14PM

lawgirl3400 wrote: »

My friend got an offer early last week too! [/

It seems to be the case that some have received offers and some have received rejections and then there are others in limbo, can’t figure out what the reasoning behind it is or whether I need to just let it go

Legal19998 · 15-03-2021 03:32PM

lawlassie wrote: »

So strange, I was tempted to call them today but I have already sent an email so I don’t really think I can justify it.. It seems to be the case that some have received offers and some have received rejections and then there are others in limbo, can’t figure out what the reasoning behind it is or whether I need to just let it go

I'm trying to remain positive but its pretty hard to with knowing people have received offers already. You'd wonder if those of us in limbo are being kept around as back ups in case someone declines an offer or something like that

lawlassie · 15-03-2021 03:36PM

Legal19998 wrote: »

I'm trying to remain positive but its pretty hard to with knowing people have received offers already. You'd wonder if those of us in limbo are being kept around as back ups in case someone declines an offer or something like that

Yes I think that seems to be the only reasonable explanation but I’ve also worried that maybe I just slipped through the cracks and there was an email that didn’t send correctly. I guess we just have to keep waiting it out!

Diamond_Hands · 15-03-2021 04:13PM

lawlassie wrote: »

So strange, I was tempted to call them today but I have already sent an email so I don’t really think I can justify it.. It seems to be the case that some have received offers and some have received rejections and then there are others in limbo, can’t figure out what the reasoning behind it is or whether I need to just let it go

All the offers are sent out in one batch, usually within a day or morning and afternoon. If someone declines an offer, the next person in line quickly gets a call. As the offers were sent out last week, sorry to say, it seems like DE is filled up for their programme. The fact that you haven't received a response is an unfortunate reflection of Irish law firms being a bit rude about not getting back to people at all.

lawlassie · 15-03-2021 04:18PM

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

All the offers are sent out in one batch, usually within a day or morning and afternoon. If someone declines an offer, the next person in line quickly gets a call. As the offers were sent out last week, sorry to say, it seems like DE is filled up for their programme. The fact that you haven't received a response is an unfortunate reflection of Irish law firms being a bit rude about not getting back to people at all.

I agree with that thought process but at the same time the fact that a lot of people have been let know and some haven’t does suggest there could be some hope that maybe not all offers have been accepted yet, who knows really. You’re probably right but I do expect to hear back seeing as a lot of others have heard one way, or another.

FE1Hopefully1 · 16-03-2021 09:48AM

roofus22 wrote: »

If anybody hears from A&L let us know !

Saw people on LinkedIn accepting offers!

amusicalfrog · 16-03-2021 10:46AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/m5u61i/do_law_firms_care_about_leaving_certificate_grades/

interesting post here about LC grades and corporate law in Ireland. I'm finished with the process myself but it's depressing seeing people hit a such a wall trying to get into firms on the basis of their Leaving Cert.

Lallers96 · 16-03-2021 11:21AM

Pinsent masons internship PFOs out

Diamond_Hands · 16-03-2021 11:47AM

amusicalfrog wrote: »

https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/m5u61i/do_law_firms_care_about_leaving_certificate_grades/

interesting post here about LC grades and corporate law in Ireland. I'm finished with the process myself but it's depressing seeing people hit a such a wall trying to get into firms on the basis of their Leaving Cert.

I was told by a Maples trainee at a drinks reception a couple years back that they have an informal policy of usually rejecting applicants below either 500 or 450 points. I would be happy to be corrected about this, but I think some other places have similar policies in place. I don't agree with it of course.

FE1Hopefully1 · 16-03-2021 12:28PM

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

I was told by a Maples trainee at a drinks reception a couple years back that they have an informal policy of usually rejecting applicants below either 500 or 450 points. I would be happy to be corrected about this, but I think some other places have similar policies in place. I don't agree with it of course.

Haha that’s me gone

Diamond_Hands · 16-03-2021 12:34PM

FE1Hopefully1 wrote: »

Haha that’s me gone

It seems a bit silly the emphasis they place on the LC. But it's just one of those things people should be aware of.

FE1Hopefully1 · 16-03-2021 12:36PM

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

It seems a bit silly the emphasis they place on the LC. But it's just one of those things people should be aware of.

Definitely for the big firms - small/medium there’s not as much emphasis at all on LC

Diamond_Hands · 16-03-2021 12:45PM

FE1Hopefully1 wrote: »

Definitely for the big firms - small/medium there’s not as much emphasis at all on LC

Yes this is a good point. Also, the longer you're out of college, the less exams matter, because its your experience that counts.

FE1new · 16-03-2021 01:21PM

I am not sure if they play as big a part for some of the big firms. I have gotten a TC for one of the big 5 and my LC results were 405 but I did have good college results, work experience and extra curriculars.

SKLaw · 16-03-2021 01:24PM

Has anyone heard at all from Lavelle’s or Mullany Walsh Maxwells?

the baby bull elephant · 16-03-2021 01:32PM

SKLaw wrote: »

Has anyone heard at all from Lavelle’s or Mullany Walsh Maxwells?

Nothing from either of them.

FE1Hopefully1 · 16-03-2021 01:42PM

FE1new wrote: »

I am not sure if they play as big a part for some of the big firms. I have gotten a TC for one of the big 5 and my LC results were 405 but I did have good college results, work experience and extra curriculars.

Yeah I think if you can make yourself stand out in some way other than results it works !!

biglawhead420 · 16-03-2021 01:52PM

AC offers out?

Diamond_Hands · 16-03-2021 01:59PM

FE1new wrote: »

I am not sure if they play as big a part for some of the big firms. I have gotten a TC for one of the big 5 and my LC results were 405 but I did have good college results, work experience and extra curriculars.

This is good to hear! Was this Matheson?

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