Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

Pintman Paddy Losty · 15-03-2021 05:42PM

jmcc wrote: »

You do realise that she is a politician and a leader of a party with more seats than FG. That's what political party leaders do. Since FG is led by a self-obsessed narcissist with the self-control of an angry teenager when it comes to Social Media, FG finds itself in the terrible position of losing the Laura Norder vote.

FG may lose quite a bit of support if Varadkar has to do a perp walk.

Regards...jmcc

It's very naive to think that this will ever be sent by the DPP.

Dempo1 · 15-03-2021 05:45PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

It's very naive to think that this will ever be sent by the DPP.

It has to and will be sent as investigation upgraded to "criminal" the DPP will then make a determination

jmcc · 15-03-2021 05:47PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

It's very naive to think that this will ever be sent by the DPP.

The Gardai submit the file to the DPP and the DPP then decides if there is a case to answer. Being extremely journalistically cynical, going by what has been published in the usually docile press release recycling industry, Varadkar may be about to be thrown to the wolves along with plans being made for his replacement by an internal FG putsch that will not leave FF with blood on its hands and thus keep FFG in government.

Regards...jmcc

Suckit · 15-03-2021 05:48PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

It's very naive to think that this will ever be sent by the DPP.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/garda%C3%AD-set-to-send-file-on-varadkar-leak-to-the-dpp-1.4510220

Gardaí investigating the leak by Tánaiste Leo Varadkar of a confidential draft of a new GP contract are expected to submit a file to the Director of Public Prosecutions in the next two months at the conclusion of their investigation.
It will then be a decision for the DPP whether to charge Mr Varadkar with any offence, although gardaí are likely to issue a recommendation with their report.

...

...Privately some senior Government figures say it will be politically damaging for Mr Varadkar, for Fine Gael and for the Government to have a file with the DPP about a serving Government Minister.

Brendan Bendar · 15-03-2021 05:51PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Seriously lads. I'm no fan of SF at all (see my post earlier), but all nonsense like this does is damage FG and its supporters even more than the constant string of incompetence and scandal.

If ye can't see how trying to drag SF into every topic about FG and its personnel does more to reinforce the points made against them, then maybe stop posting?

It just smacks of desperation and "look over there"/"nothing to see here" :rolleyes:

Seriously, how can a person accept criticism from someone whose record and background and ideals far exceeds ones own in ‘wrongdoing’.

Just think about that, compadre.

Pintman Paddy Losty · 15-03-2021 05:57PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

It's very naive to think that this will ever be sent by the DPP.

Meant to say that the DPP would recommend proceeding with a prosecution. Not a hope.

Pintman Paddy Losty · 15-03-2021 05:58PM

jmcc wrote: »

The Gardai submit the file to the DPP and the DPP then decides if there is a case to answer. Being extremely journalistically cynical, going by what has been published in the usually docile press release recycling industry, Varadkar may be about to be thrown to the wolves along with plans being made for his replacement by an internal FG putsch that will not leave FF with blood on its hands and thus keep FFG in government.

Regards...jmcc

This is just wishful thinking. Would be better suited to the Conspiracy Theory forum.

Fann Linn · 15-03-2021 06:05PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Seriously, how can a person accept criticism from someone whose record and background and ideals far exceeds ones own in ‘wrongdoing’.

Just think about that, compadre.

It's not just SF calling for him to step away ijust n case you're happy using the Shinners as an excuse for him to stay. Despite his wrongdoing.

Setting a fairly low bar there Brenners.

jmcc · 15-03-2021 06:13PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

This is just wishful thinking. Would be better suited to the Conspiracy Theory forum.

To paraphrase Harry Brill from the movie "Enemy of the State", it's more than a theory with me. I'm a former conspirer (journalist).

Regards...jmcc

penny piper · 15-03-2021 06:17PM

Michael Martin has said he supports Leo Varadkar and that Varadkar had already apologised in Government and that had been accepted..

J.O. Farmer · 15-03-2021 06:28PM

penny piper wrote: »

Michael Martin has said he supports Leo Varadkar and that Varadkar had already apologised in Government and that had been accepted..

Micheal Martin and Fianna Fail aren't going to throw him under the bus. That'd bring down the government and nobody wants to be seen to do that.

Varadkars position as leader of Fine Gael is what will save him. Any less senior minister would be gone. Varadkar himself would come out with a statement saying they'd been asked to step aside maybe temporarily possibly in a similar scenario to McEntees maternity where the position is left open for a return depending on FF and the Greens and most importantly how much Varadkar wanted to keep them.

Doctors room ghost · 15-03-2021 06:29PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

It's very naive to think that this will ever be sent by the DPP.

Take off the blinkers.
“A criminal investigation”

blanch152 · 15-03-2021 06:29PM

penny piper wrote: »

Michael Martin has said he supports Leo Varadkar and that Varadkar had already apologised in Government and that had been accepted..

"Meanwhile, in a statement the Green Party said it acknowledges the account and apology given by Mr Varadkar in the Dáil last November and has confidence in him."

From the RTE article. There it should rest.

Fann Linn · 15-03-2021 06:32PM

blanch152 wrote: »

"Meanwhile, in a statement the Green Party said it acknowledges the account and apology given by Mr Varadkar in the Dáil last November and has confidence in him."

From the RTE article. There it should rest.

Just as well the Gardai are the ones who'll have the final say. Would be a cold day in hell before the GP would grow a spine.

Pintman Paddy Losty · 15-03-2021 06:42PM

Two other party leaders have backed him now. That's all there is to it. Let the guards do their job now and after the DPP chooses not to pursue it we can all move on.

jmcc · 15-03-2021 06:43PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Two other party leaders have backed him now.

Translation: It is an FG problem and we expect FG to take care of it.

Regards...jmcc

Floppybits · 15-03-2021 06:46PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Two other party leaders have backed him now. That's all there is to it. Let the guards do their job now and after the DPP chooses not to pursue it we can all move on.

Nothing more than cowardice. They are afraid to face the electorate and are clinging on to get the pensions. This is not putting the country first, this is nothing more than greed.

I Am The Law · 15-03-2021 07:01PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Two other party leaders have backed him now. That's all there is to it. Let the guards do their job now and after the DPP chooses not to pursue it we can all move on.

Meanwhile we'll continue to speculate on the demise of leo the liars shameful career.

BackOfMyBag · 15-03-2021 07:05PM

heather humohreys publicly supporting leo was a disgrace. she should have the cop on to realize that as jm (even acting one) you shouldnt be basically predicting the outcome of an upcoming case . not only that but she said leo leaked it for the public interest .

that's complete nonsense anyway as he didn't leak it to the public he leaked it to his friend who isn't a friend wink wink !

laws and ethics aren't supposed to apply to the people who make them apparently it's a great little country to be corrup in !

jammiedodgers · 15-03-2021 07:07PM

This story is going nowhere, it'll be buried next week.
The Village is a rag anyways!
The document wasn't really confidential.
But what about Sinn Fein?!?!?!
The Gardaí looking at it is just a formality. It's not even an investigation.
This thread should be closed now.

Looking through some previous posts in this thread is funny.

And we've now moved on to sure the other party leaders have backed him it's grand.

James Brown · 15-03-2021 07:12PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Meant to say that the DPP would recommend proceeding with a prosecution. Not a hope.

Reading an older script mayhap?

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

A total load of bulldust and a complete sideshow.

Absolute waste of time. No crime committed. If you think AGS will be sending any files to the DPP you're naive in the extreme.
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Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

God, that Village outfit and the crank Chay Bowes look more desperate every time they try in vain to flog this dead horse.

This is a dead duck lads. Move on.

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I'm embarrassed for the people who won't let this go.

Thankfully we can still embarrass the authorities in at least being seen to do the right thing.

jmcc · 15-03-2021 07:21PM

James Brown wrote: »

Thankfully we can still embarrass the authorities in at least being seen to do the right thing.

With that kind of record, I'm surprised that the Irish Times has not given Paddy his own column.

Regards...jmcc

Brendan Bendar · 15-03-2021 07:30PM

The boy Losty is perfectly correct, let’s wait for the ....outcome.......... before celebrating.

happyoutscan · 15-03-2021 08:27PM

I don't believe for a second the DPP would have the cajones to charge Leo.

I'd ****ing love it if they did though.

smurgen · 15-03-2021 08:35PM

happyoutscan wrote: »

I don't believe for a second the DPP would have the cajones to charge Leo.

I'd ****ing love it if they did though.

With the political interference already gone on its going to be tough. The new justice minister not being put in place would be the only hope. A bizarre turn of events for any modern democracy really.

Brendan Bendar · 15-03-2021 08:39PM

happyoutscan wrote: »

I don't believe for a second the DPP would have the cajones to charge Leo.

I'd ****ing love it if they did though.

Why would they not have the cahunas to charge if the charges were valid

Can you expand on that assertion.

Are you implying corruption on their part.

Have you evidence to back those assertions up?

BackOfMyBag · 15-03-2021 08:45PM

dr matt o tuathail is contemplating emigration apparently, thats how much heat hes getting from his interactions with leo varadkar !!!! it will be interesting to see if leo varadkar is charged by the dpp, the village magazine had a very interesting article over the weekend that explained why in the opinion of two different barristers leo varadkar clearly broke the law !!!!!

if he did indeed break the law he should rightfully face prosecution but either way he should not be allowed to stsy in place at the minute , not until the an garda siochana investigation has concluded and the dpp make their decisions !!!

Rows Grower · 15-03-2021 08:45PM

happyoutscan wrote: »

I don't believe for a second the DPP would have the cajones to charge Leo.

I'd ****ing love it if they did though.

I think she will charge him as there will be enough evidence to secure a conviction.

That will be the only consideration given to the file and the Gardai wouldn't have proceeded with a full criminal investigation without giving it some serious consideration.

_Kaiser_ · 15-03-2021 10:05PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Just as well the Gardai are the ones who'll have the final say. Would be a cold day in hell before the GP would grow a spine.

It's not even that. The GP have another chance to push their fantasy ideology (which in reality will only make matters worse as it did last time they had a whiff of power).

No way are they going to give that up (just as they propped up the FF Govt long past its sell-by date as well last time)

shafty100 · 15-03-2021 10:08PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Mary Lou trying to play political games. People see right through this whole sham. SF will gain no new followers with this silly side show.

would you care to explain why the irish times and rte who were contacted by the village magazine in relation to the varadkar leak refused to cover the story ?

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