Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

ypres5 · 12-03-2021 11:05AM

Russman wrote: »

In fairness that's very true. I suppose the flip side is look at the damage a minority acting the maggot caused.

and the damage the government did flying people over from the uk without any form of quarantine when it was common knowledge the uk variant existed and was becoming the dominant strain

Kermit.de.frog · 12-03-2021 11:05AM

I see there is nearly 7% fall in alcohol consumption in the last year.

#healthierpeoplearehappierpeople

SnuggyBear · 12-03-2021 11:06AM

gozunda wrote: »

Was a complete ****efest.

Play stupid games and get stupid prizes like the highest rate of infection in the world. Well done us. And yeah we're still mopping up after that

But hey let's go party snuggles ...

Where were all these parties cos no one I know was at any of them

Klonker · 12-03-2021 11:08AM

Even if the Christmas surge didn't happen (there was always going to be some increase over Christmas) do people really think we wouldn't be in level 5 now? OK construction and schools might not have closed but does anyone actually think hairdressers, non essential retail or restaurants open? I highly doubt that it. They are all terrified cases will increase and we are just waiting out the vaccines to take effect. NPHET don't trust the public in any way at all even though we've been shown to more compliant than a lot of other countries throughout all this.

Graham · 12-03-2021 11:10AM

ypres5 wrote: »

at this point graham has mentioned last Christmas more times than george michael. it's getting a bit tedious recycling the same argument over and over

Both crap Christmas records.

Neither of which I'd like to see replayed now.

gozunda · 12-03-2021 11:10AM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Where were all these parties cos no one I know was at any of them

As Russman already said concerning Christmas

Russman wrote: »

In fairness that's very true. I suppose the flip side is look at the damage a minority acting the maggot caused.

But let's not learn anything from that and just demand that the same ****e be allowed happen again before we've even had a chance to get a critical number vaccinated :rolleyes:

I'm with ya....

User1998 · 12-03-2021 11:11AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Yes, last Christmas happened. I'm aware.

In a month's time, we'll be closer to summer than Christmas. Remember what last summer was like?

But but variants

bloopy · 12-03-2021 11:11AM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Where were all these parties cos no one I know was at any of them

How is it that the people most for the lockdowns seem to know where all the parties are?
Seems a bit unfair.

RobitTV · 12-03-2021 11:12AM

Irish Times: Tánaiste Leo Varadkar has admitted that he expected Ireland’s first lockdown to last for no more than a few weeks or months, one year on from his infamous Washington speech

It is exactly 12 months since the then-taoiseach addressed the Irish public from the steps of Blair House in the US capital and told them: “I need to speak to you about coronavirus.”

Mr Varadkar said he had “no concept” at the time that some businesses would remain shuttered one year on, and paid tribute to the inspiring perseverance and courage of the Irish people.

Irish Times

Terence Rattigan · 12-03-2021 11:14AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I see there is nearly 7% fall in alcohol consumption in the last year.

#healthierpeoplearehappierpeople

My alcohol consumption made me fall 7% more last year.

RobitTV · 12-03-2021 11:14AM

Leo Varadkar: “I used to say that I wanted the pandemic to be a lost year, not a lost decade. It looks like it’s going to be more than a year, but hopefully not much more than one.”

Hopefully is right....

RobitTV · 12-03-2021 11:17AM

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1370086873717161997

gozunda · 12-03-2021 11:18AM

bloopy wrote: »

How is it that the people most for the lockdowns seem to know where all the parties are?
Seems a bit unfair.

Jeez is no one reading comments here? As Russman already pointed out - the problem was the damage a minority acting the maggot caused.

The same minority still sceaming and wailing apparently...

12-03-2021 11:19AM

RobitTV wrote: »

Leo Varadkar: “I used to say that I wanted the pandemic to be a lost year, not a lost decade. It looks like it’s going to be more than a year, but hopefully not much more than one.”

Hopefully is right....

Easy for Leo to casually utter when he has a soft landing awaiting him, spanner would want to fix those leaks.

Klonker · 12-03-2021 11:20AM

gozunda wrote: »

Was a complete ****efest.

Play stupid games and get stupid prizes like the highest rate of infection in the world. Well done us. And yeah we're still mopping up after that

But hey let's go party snuggles ...

Yeah you're right, it was stupid to lock down in October to 'save Christmas' when we had one of the lowest infection rates in Europe, suppressing demand of social contact and shopping throughout end of October up to beginning of December. NPHET should have known there was going to be a big bounce once restrictions were eased. I thought they'd have people looking at human behaviour patterns. The government had very little choice but to reopen in December as that's what the unjustified lockdown in October was sold on, saving Christmas.

Was it a coincidence that the only country in Europe to lockdown October to December had the largest spike in infections in January? It would be stupid for anyone to say it was.

12-03-2021 11:20AM

RobitTV wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1370086873717161997

A gust of wind could topple his yacht, heaven forfend.

ShyMets · 12-03-2021 11:21AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I see there is nearly 7% fall in alcohol consumption in the last year.

#healthierpeoplearehappierpeople

You can still drink in moderation and have a healthy lifestyle.

But of course you know that

batman_oh · 12-03-2021 11:23AM

Klonker wrote: »

Yeah you're right, it was stupid to lock down in October to 'save Christmas' when we had one of the lowest infection rates in Europe, suppressing demand of social contact and shopping throughout end of October up to beginning of December. NPHET should have known there was going to be a big bounce once restrictions were eased. I thought they'd have people looking at human behaviour patterns. The government had very little choice but to reopen in December as that's what the unjustified lockdown in October was sold on, saving Christmas.

Was it a coincidence that the only country in Europe to lockdown October to December had the largest spike in infections in January? It would be stupid for anyone to say it was.

Don't be making sense like that. Christmas was because the Irish are unhinged covid spreading animals that can't control themselves and need to be locked down in Level 5 for as long as possible. Ignore the entire period from March to October 2020 where we had great compliance and some of the lowest rates in Europe (and the majority of deaths occured in nursing homes completely mishandled by Dr. Tony and co.)

SnuggyBear · 12-03-2021 11:27AM

They have moved on from variants to wind now

OwenM · 12-03-2021 11:28AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

...wasn't worth it

There was no restriction, guideline, appeal or law that would have prevented what happened at Christmas, none.

Ok restaurants would have been closed but that would have made a marginal difference. Very few would have heeded what could have been asked of us, but a very very large majority would have had their Christmas anyway and the government would have lost credibility because we just emerged from a lockdown that many objected to but we put up and shut up because we were told it would mean a better xmas.

gozunda · 12-03-2021 11:29AM

Klonker wrote: »

Yeah you're right, it was stupid to lock down in October to 'save Christmas' when we had one of the lowest infection rates in Europe, suppressing demand of social contact and shopping throughout end of October up to beginning of December. NPHET should have known there was going to be a big bounce once restrictions were eased. I thought they'd have people looking at human behaviour patterns. The government had very little choice but to reopen in December as that's what the unjustified lockdown in October was sold on, saving Christmas.
Was it a coincidence that the only country in Europe to lockdown October to December had the largest spike in infections in January? It would be stupid for anyone to say it was.

Oh look its the blame game again. How is that relevant to reality? I know I know - It wasn't us - it was them. Give that a break - its a broken record and helps fuk all

Its not a coincidence that Ireland was the only country which defacto opened up for Christmas and ended up with the highest rate of infection in the world. Something we're still dealing with.

But sure stick our heads in the sand and our fingers in our ears whilst singing lalalala - but it was all their fault whaaaaaa!

Kermit.de.frog · 12-03-2021 11:30AM

RobitTV wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1370086873717161997

A very wise saying. The main thing is we all stay on the boat.

OwenM · 12-03-2021 11:31AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I see there is nearly 7% fall in alcohol consumption in the last year.

#healthierpeoplearehappierpeople

And is still spun as a negative by the temperance movement...

https://alcoholireland.ie/alcohol-consumption-data-2020-disappointing/

TonyMaloney · 12-03-2021 11:32AM

Klonker wrote: »

Yeah you're right, it was stupid to lock down in October to 'save Christmas' when we had one of the lowest infection rates in Europe, suppressing demand of social contact and shopping throughout end of October up to beginning of December. NPHET should have known there was going to be a big bounce once restrictions were eased. I thought they'd have people looking at human behaviour patterns. The government had very little choice but to reopen in December as that's what the unjustified lockdown in October was sold on, saving Christmas.

Was it a coincidence that the only country in Europe to lockdown October to December had the largest spike in infections in January? It would be stupid for anyone to say it was.

You have it in your head that we locked down in October to save Christmas?
No wonder you're so angry.

I've some good news for you, you've got it entirely wrong. We locked down in October to prevent a dreadful outbreak that would have killed a lot of people in November.

ypres5 · 12-03-2021 11:32AM

gozunda wrote: »

Oh look its the blame game again. How is that relevant to reality? I know I know - It wasn't us - it was them. Give that a break - its a broken record and helps fuk all

Its not a coincidence that Ireland was the only country which defacto opened up fir Christmas and ended up with the highest rate of infection in the world. Something we're still dealing with.

But sure stick our heads in the sand and our fingers in our ears whilst singing lalalala - but it was all their fault whaaaaaa!

of course you an others ignore the uk flights the government chartered and instead blame the public solely. if you're going to accuse others of sticking fingers in their ears look in the mirror first

OwenM · 12-03-2021 11:36AM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

You have it in your head that we locked down in October to save Christmas?
No wonder you're so angry.

I've some good news for you, you've got it entirely wrong. We locked down in October to prevent a dreadful outbreak that would have killed a lot of people in November.

Entirely wrong? Really? What were all the Micheal Martin 'meaningful Christmas' soundbites about? I agree the net result of the October lockdown was what you wrote, but we were sold it on the basis of having xmas.

Graham · 12-03-2021 11:36AM

ypres5 wrote: »

of course you an others ignore the uk flights the government chartered and instead blame the public solely. if you're going to accuse others of sticking fingers in their ears look in the mirror first

:rolleyes:

Should Irish residents have been locked out of the country?

Russman · 12-03-2021 11:37AM

ypres5 wrote: »

and the damage the government did flying people over from the uk without any form of quarantine when it was common knowledge the uk variant existed and was becoming the dominant strain

Both can be true.
Personally I think the governments biggest failing in this has been not controlling inward travel. The UK variant was getting in regardless with the border situation, and with people flying to Belfast and driving south, but I do think numbers could have been drastically reduced had our own airports been more controlled.

Klonker · 12-03-2021 11:38AM

gozunda wrote: »

Oh look its the blame game again. How is that relevant to reality? I know I know - It wasn't us - it was them. Give that a break - its a broken record and helps fuk all

Its not a coincidence that Ireland was the only country which defacto opened up for Christmas and ended up with the highest rate of infection in the world. Something we're still dealing with.

But sure stick our heads in the sand and our fingers in our ears whilst singing lalalala - but it was all their fault whaaaaaa!

It's the people for restrictions like you who keep referencing Christmas and to avoid it happening again. I'm outlining some of the causes of the Christmas surge, that's all.

I agree us opening up at Christmas contributed to our surge. Do you agree that us locking down in October also contributed to our surge?

gozunda · 12-03-2021 11:40AM

ypres5 wrote: »

of course you an others ignore the uk flights the government chartered and instead blame the public solely. if you're going to accuse others of sticking fingers in their ears look in the mirror first

Ahh I see t'was de flights personally charted by Tony and friends which are to blame. De bastards. ~ shakes fist and gets even more outraged arrghhhhh :rolleyes:

Listen carefully I will say this only once! And no not blaming anyone 'solely" BECAUSE at this point - Its irrelevant who anyone thinks was or was not to blame.

The fact is we ended up in a ****efest following Christmas. The fallout we're still dealing with.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings