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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,236 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Leftwaffe wrote: »
    Struggling whilst being semi-open at the very least no doubt. I have serious doubts about how much we will open up, particularly after listening to that. After all it’s NPHET who make the decisions. MM will pass the buck to them.

    If the UK hit their deadlines, which I think they will after a few jumps and bumps, then even the most hardened of comfortable lockdown merchants will be clamouring for a reopening.

    It's actually bordering on madness at this stage. The way our rights have just been written off for an extended period of time and the justifications used get more and more absurd.

    Oh, we can't lift lockdown as it will lead to another lockdown. This has to be the dumbest thing I've ever read about this entire fiasco. It basically boils down to, you can't have your freedoms back because we'll only have to take them off you again.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,236 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    So you think international travel from the furthest west Island in Europe should be killed stone dead except for essential reasons? Even if countries are on a green list or have extremely low rates? Look at Iceland - they’re not daft enough to suggest this and they’ve lower rates than us
    I’d be interested to hear what your view of travel was before Covid.

    Last summer when we were down to single digit numbers was the time to manage incoming travel. Now, it's just a spiteful move that only punishes the general population. Vaccines are being rolled out and we are acting like this is only the start of the pandemic.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Deusexmachina


    I see NPHET are growing concerned with the stalling progress of the decline in cases and are warning of a reversal.

    Everyone needs to redouble their efforts if we are to remain on course.

    Ah, you must be taking the piss? Otherwise, I have rarely read anything more patronizing.

    Are you employed by the HSE or the DOH?

    ‘Redouble our efforts?’ - what does that actually even mean?

    Go and ****e.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭SnuggyBear


    We need to galvanise our efforts


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    Ah, you must be taking the piss? Otherwise, I have rarely read anything more patronizing.

    Are you employed by the HSE or the DOH?

    ‘Redouble our efforts?’ - what does that actually even mean?

    Go and ****e.

    Based on what the OP has posted previously, I suspect he means only leaving our homes once a week for food


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭SnuggyBear


    Not beatings. Think of it as medicine. Lemsip.

    It has a bitter taste but a happy end :)

    Lemsip doesn't do ****

    Bit like nphet actually


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    Graham wrote: »
    Wow, that's some disturbing imagination there ypres5.

    I was more thinking along the lines of "you've 2 choices here you can turn around and go home otherwise you'll be taken into custody pending a court appearance".

    Weren't you the one suggesting a handful of repatriation flights were solely responsible for new variant in Ireland a few posts ago?

    Now holidays are OK?

    Your logic is confounding.

    holidays will be okay in Greece come may so is the greek government's logic confounding? the irish government's logic is much more confounding considering we'll still be limited to 5k while the uk restart international travel also your attempts to put words in my mouth aren't funny or smart they're just lazy and tedious


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Deusexmachina


    ypres5 wrote: »
    holidays will be okay in Greece come may so is the greek government's logic confounding? the irish government's logic is much more confounding considering we'll still be limited to 5k while the uk restart international travel also your attempts to put words in my mouth aren't funny or smart they're just lazy and tedious

    I just realized I have an essential business meeting in Corfu in May


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    ShyMets wrote: »
    You will always have a minority of people who break the rules. The only way to prevent this is to keep people in their homes which is unworkable

    look at who you're responding to and think again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    I see NPHET are growing concerned with the stalling progress of the decline in cases and are warning of a reversal.

    Everyone needs to redouble their efforts if we are to remain on course.

    Haha.... jesus wept.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,252 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0312/1203513-covid-main/

    Bit of carrot and stick from Philip Nolan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0312/1203513-covid-main/

    Bit of carrot and stick from Philip Nolan.

    I suppose you could say that “the next two weeks are critical in our battle to suppress the virus?”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Pitch n Putt


    I see NPHET are growing concerned with the stalling progress of the decline in cases and are warning of a reversal.

    Everyone needs to redouble their efforts if we are to remain on course.

    Tell NPHET to fcccuukkk off ...... The game is up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    Tell NPHET to fcccuukkk off ...... The game is up.

    Hold firm (shut up). We’re nearly at the finish line (another 12 months of this to go)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Philip Nolan's having a laugh

    Being so casual mentioning 10 weeks as if it's nothing

    That's 10 weeks of not seeing friends, family, partners

    10 weeks of people not being able to earn a living

    10 weeks of further businesses going to the ground

    Maybe he's going from the next two weeks are crucial to the next 10 weeks are crucial

    Then rinse and repeat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭jusvi2001


    This is how Australia and New Zealand manage Covid 19. Borders are closed and anyone who enter the country anywhere from the world has to do 2 weeks of hotel quarantine and series of covid test. this strategy resulted in citizens enjoying a free life, schools open, business open.

    And here in Ireland. Borders still widen open. anyone can come and go even from countries with high covid. All the citizens has to live under lockdown, schools closed, business closed, healthcare overwhelmed etc. even after 1 year Ireland is still planning about 2 weeks mandatory quarantine for people from selected countries and begging EU for vaccines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,878 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Government March 2020: we can only keep these restrictions in place for a few weeks or we'll lose the people.

    Government March 2021: We've had these restrictions in place for two months, after varying levels of restrictions for the previous 10 months. Why have we lost some people?

    Frankly it's impressive that the majority have stayed on board for this long. They should be praised for it, not spoken to like misbehaving children.

    And it's only taken 10's of billions of borrowing to bribe them and 24/7 hysterical fear-mongering by the media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭shamco


    Leftwaffe wrote: »
    I’m not sure who I’m listening to here but on RTE Radio One now it sounds like a NPHET mouthpiece. He says he’s worried that we will squander our hard work and sacrifices by moving too quickly over the next ten to twenty weeks.

    Gonna be great watching the world get on with their lives over Summer while we’re all in this together.

    Edit: It was the all powerful non-elected Phillip Nolan

    These guys need to get off the stage. Its the governments job to inform the public about future plans not a university lecturer. But I suppose the government are hiding behind NPHET so no one takes responsibility,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    I just realized I have an essential business meeting in Corfu in May

    Are Greek dentists any good? Worth breaking a tooth to get out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭SnuggyBear


    shamco wrote: »
    These guys need to get off the stage. Its the governments job to inform the public about future plans not a university lecturer. But I suppose the government are hiding behind NPHET so no one takes responsibility,

    The government are a crowd of massive pussys


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    ypres5 wrote: »
    the irish government's logic is much more confounding considering we'll still be limited to 5k while the uk restart international travel

    The UK roadmap suggests there will no International travel until at least the 17th May but this could be postponed if the prime minister and his advisers say it is necessary.

    It's probably no coincidence that this is a couple of weeks after the entire adult population are projected to have received (or been offered) at least one dose of a vaccine.

    Are you advocating we take the same approach?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    They’re already talking about reopening schools and locking everything else for longer in Northern Ireland.

    I am not feeling like we are ever going to get out of this anytime soon. Even though our cases are so low.

    It’s unreal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭RGS


    jusvi2001 wrote: »
    This is how Australia and New Zealand manage Covid 19. Borders are closed and anyone who enter the country from anywhere from the world has to do 2 weeks of hotel quarantine and series of covid test. this strategy resulted in citizens enjoying a free life, schools open, business open.

    And here in Ireland. Borders still widen open. anyone can come and go even from countries with high covid. All the citizens has to live under lockdown, schools closed, business closed, healthcare overwhelmed etc. even after 1 year Ireland is still planning about 2 weeks mandatory quarantine for people from selected countries and begging EU for vaccines.



    can we please stop comparing Ireland to Australia. One is a land mass thousand of miles away from the next land mass, the other is an island with 2 different governments and with over 300 border crossings and relies on ro ro freight for essential supplies.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    I am not feeling like we are ever going to get out of this anytime soon. Even though our cases are so low.


    Our case numbers now are around 500 per day, roughly where we were on Dec 20th.

    It took us 3 weeks to jump from 500 to 6,500 cases per day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Ray Donovan


    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    They’re already talking about reopening schools and locking everything else for longer in Northern Ireland.

    I am not feeling like we are ever going to get out of this anytime soon. Even though our cases are so low.

    It’s unreal.

    Source?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Looks like out overlords will be advising against any relaxation in April


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭the kelt


    This day one year ago i remember cracking a joke leaving the office after being told to work from home for the next couple of weeks.

    Said to one of the directors cracking a joke "see ye in August!" to which he replied "ah it'll not be that bad"

    The thing is maybe its just me but a year later with a vaccine the whole thing actually feels less optimistic.

    Maybe its Philipp Nolan casually throwing out "another 10 weeks" this morning followed casually by "and 10 weeks after that" as if its nothing, i dont know.

    And im one of the lucky ones, neither have us have lost our jobs, business, kids are back in school again, financially ive probably never been better off, less expenses going out etc.

    But genuinely the whole thing feels bleak this morning, we have imho no leadership, no direction other than "arrah shur, we'll see in another month, maybe 2", no plan. Maybe its just me but theres no optimism or even a sense of a need for optimism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭big syke


    Graham wrote: »
    Our case numbers now are around 500 per day, roughly where we were on Dec 20th.

    It took us 3 weeks to jump from 500 to 6,500 cases per day.

    Ah come on now apples and oranges.

    Totally different ball game now.

    December had Xmas and with it an infliux of people from the UK, indoor visists shot up, Pubs opened, etc.

    We also have vaccines now and this has already reduced numbers in HCW, Care home and hospital aquired infection by huge percentages


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    big syke wrote: »
    December had Xmas and with it an infliux of people from thee UK, indoor visists shot up, Pubs openeded etc.

    We also have vaccines now and this has already reduced numbers in HCW, Care home and hospital aquired infection by huge percentages

    All valid points.

    We should probably look at a more measured relaxing of restrictions this time around.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    I see we're back to implying the only possible options are keep going as we are or repeat Christmas.

    Nope


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