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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,046 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    SnuggyBear wrote: »
    Looking at a prime time feature on the health system and its hard to not see us in lockdown come winter.

    I hate to say it, but based on last few weeks I can see this whole thing dragging into Summer 2022. Grim. I hope to be proved wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,543 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    JDxtra wrote: »


    I hate to say it, but based on last few weeks I can see this whole thing dragging into Summer 2022. Grim. I hope to be proved wrong.

    Hopefully not, half the country will be gone gaga


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    JDxtra wrote: »
    If receiving a vaccine doesn't permit individuals any additional freedoms, you can start to see how we could end up with many people simply refusing one.

    Especially true for low risk healthy individuals where the risks of Covid are extremely low anyways.

    Yup there'll be no incentive for those people to take a vaccine if they're on the fence about taking one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    With the amount of testing we do, there is no way we will be seeing 200 cases per day even after 80% take up of the vaccine!

    This virus will be endemic.

    We need to measure it by hospitilisations and death.

    Arghhhhhhhh this is so frustrating to read such blinkered view by the ultra conservative NEPHET.


    People are dying all around us from non COVID stuff.

    Mental health is on the floor people need to wake up.

    This is the problem , they will continue to use cases as a metric, when it will essentially be meaningless when the vulnerable are vaccinated, as the cases won't turn into overwhelming the health service/deaths ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Hopefully not, half the country will be gone gaga

    I think we are well past that point


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    SnuggyBear wrote: »
    Looking at a prime time feature on the health system and its hard to not see us in lockdown come winter.

    It’s actually quite sad how badly this sector has been treated while at the same time the government are using them to hide behind instead of charting a course out of this mess.


  • Site Banned Posts: 85 ✭✭jackryan34


    JDxtra wrote: »
    If receiving a vaccine doesn't permit individuals any additional freedoms, you can start to see how we could end up with many people simply refusing one.

    Especially true for low risk healthy individuals where the risks of Covid are extremely low anyways.

    Let's be honest, the only people that need them are near the end anyway

    They shouldn't need convincing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    User1998 wrote: »
    ‘They’ are not doing a good job.

    We, the general public, are the ones doing a good job, putting up with this nonsense for the past year and restricting our whole lives for a small minority of society that don’t even appreciate it and probably never will.

    ‘They’ are just twiddling their thumbs dragging these restrictions out as long as they possibly can

    They have been useless in my view in spite of having lots of advantages in dealing with this virus.
    Geographic in being an island off the west of Europe.
    Demographic in having a very young population.
    A very compliant population that have endured some of the longest restrictions of any country in the world.
    Obviously we should be way out ahead out of most countries in Europe in our death rate, but sadly no.


    "But surely Jimmy, now that we know that the virus is much less transmissible outdoors, and with a year to prepare, the restrictions are carefully tailored to allow people to take advantage of this".

    "Sorry Terry, a year on and still you are required to stay in your home only allowed to leave it for essentials and exercise. They have managed to extend the exercise radius from 2KM to 5KM from your house, so basically in a year, that is as far as we have managed to get in terms of living with the virus"


    When either party comes to my house looking for a vote in the next election, I will just ask them to tell me about any part of their handling of this pandemic that has been a success. Any part at all and they can have my vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    jackryan34 wrote: »
    Let's be honest, the only people that need them are near the end anyway

    They shouldn't need convincing

    The only people? What a load of rubbish. Plenty of people need it that aren't 'near the end' at all. So much black and white garbage on here at times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    My sisters Care home is fully vaccinated both staff and residents, yet they are all still wearing PPE and visiting is only on compassionate grounds. I can't get my head around this, what was the point of the vaccine?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Windmill100000


    darced wrote: »
    My sisters Care home is fully vaccinated both staff and residents, yet they are all still wearing PPE and visiting is only on compassionate grounds. I can't get my head around this, what was the point of the vaccine?

    And are all visitors fully vaccinated?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    And are all visitors fully vaccinated?

    Obviously not, Will it be a requirement to be fully vaccinated to visit a nursing home?

    Why are staff wearing masks in what is there own little vaccinated world? I don't get it.


  • Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tomás Ryan, bluffer supreme on Tonight Show: "Even after vaccination, people can still spread Covid so we should re-open very slowly and carefully..."

    Now Matt, are all questions pre-approved or will you actually ask about his association with ISAG & their leaked doc in which they wanted to increase anxiety and insecurity in the public...

    ...no, thank you Tomas off you scamper a few unchallenging questions are stress enough. Join us after the break folks for more non-interviews...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Windmill100000


    darced wrote: »
    Obviously not, Will it be a requirement to be fully vaccinated to visit a nursing home?

    Why are staff wearing masks in what is there own little vaccinated world? I don't get it.

    I'm not sure what the requirements are going forward. Would be interested in knowing though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    And are all visitors fully vaccinated?

    Why are the visitors of any considered consequence?

    Read the post again
    “All staff and residents HAVE BEEN VACCINATED” ie are protected.

    Further more as new data has shown these now uninfected staff and residents will have an 80% reduction in spreading their non-infected virus to unvaccinated visitors.

    It’s the height of absolute madness if they’re still ppe’d etc up to the gills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Tomás Ryan, bluffer supreme on Tonight Show: "Even after vaccination, people can still spread Covid so we should re-open very slowly and carefully..."

    Now Matt, are all questions pre-approved or will you actually ask about his association with ISAG & their leaked doc in which they wanted to increase anxiety and insecurity in the public...

    ...no, thank you Tomas off you scamper a few unchallenging questions are stress enough. Join us after the break folks for more non-interviews...

    I farted around on gript today and they had some screenshots of conversations about ivor cummms being a lying little ****stain that has cost actual lives, but I couldn't find any actual evidence of anything on what most of you are upset about.

    I may genuinely have missed something, so if you have a link to a particular article that's getting you so pissed off, I'd appreciate it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,543 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    NPHET must be wizards in there craft if they know that the vaccine in fact doesn't work fully and restrictions have to stay. Somebody tell the rest of the world

    Hell does the UK know its own Variant is so so deadly ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Windmill100000


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    NPHET must be wizards in there craft if they know that the vaccine in fact doesn't work fully and restrictions have to stay. Somebody tell the rest of the world

    Hell does the UK know its own Variant is so so deadly ?

    I think they do.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/03/11/covid-variant-in-the-uk-appears-to-be-64percent-more-deadly-than-other-strains-study-finds.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Something needs to give on April 5th if they want to keep a shrewd of public support


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,342 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Now that the variants nonsense is petering out we'll be hearing a lot about still births for the next while.

    Hold firm. The next 2 weeks are crucial.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    NPHET must be wizards in there craft if they know that the vaccine in fact doesn't work fully and restrictions have to stay. Somebody tell the rest of the world

    Hell does the UK know its own Variant is so so deadly ?

    That's been answered for you several times, but you'll be back here in a week asking again.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Tomás Ryan, bluffer supreme on Tonight Show: "Even after vaccination, people can still spread Covid so we should re-open very slowly and carefully..."

    Now Matt, are all questions pre-approved or will you actually ask about his association with ISAG & their leaked doc in which they wanted to increase anxiety and insecurity in the public...

    ...no, thank you Tomas off you scamper a few unchallenging questions are stress enough. Join us after the break folks for more non-interviews...

    Matt Cooper is a supporter of ISAG which is why Tomás Ryan and his cronies are frequently on his show. I sincerely hope there’s a broadcasting investigation into what’s happening. If Matt is having on a neuroscientist to dictate Covid responses to us, where’s a counter point from a actual immunologist / virologist, etc, and is Matt Cooper challenging the points being made, and remaining impartial to the propaganda being spouted by Ryan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,069 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    i presume those still births happened in ireland due to covid recentley? not just 3 cases in 7 billion people worldwide?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    Now that the variants nonsense is petering out we'll be hearing a lot about still births for the next while.

    Hold firm. The next 2 weeks are crucial.

    Ref the still births , NPHET are the only organisation in the world to be able to fart out a theory and magically bypass all the stages of the scientific method by instantly achieving cause and effect conclusion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    It's a little sad that many of you think all this variant talk is nonsense.
    A couple of weeks ago we wiped the floor with good old covid for the third time. We pulverized it. It's pretty much extinct on the island of Ireland.

    The reason you're stuck in your gaf is because of B117. And it's not that NPHET is being overly cautious about the unknown, b117 has proven itself in multiple countries to being much more resilient.
    It's now a known. You guys just don't know it yet somehow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    dalyboy wrote: »
    Ref the still births , NPHET are the only organisation in the world to be able to fart out a theory and magically bypass all the stages of the scientific method by instantly achieving cause and effect conclusion.

    and then have the public unquestioningly regurgitating it without question and jump down the throat of anyone who offers a word of protest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    It's a little sad that many of you think all this variant talk is nonsense.
    A couple of weeks ago we wiped the floor with good old covid for the third time. We pulverized it. It's pretty much extinct on the island of Ireland.

    The reason you're stuck in your gaf is because of B117. And it's not that NPHET is being overly cautious about the unknown, b117 has proven itself in multiple countries to being much more resilient.
    It's now a known. You guys just don't know it yet somehow.

    and yet nphet and their overt cautiousness didn't stop government chartered flights from the uk bringing it here in the first place yet the public carry the can for that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭franciscanpunk


    I'm actually at the stage where don't give a f..k what they say anymore.

    Having people over Easter bank holiday will give me something to look forward to but overall I've had enough. Just tell us what %of the country needs to be vaccinated for what level of opening. If they did that people would probably source the vaccines for them, can see thousands of people offering their services to AZ:) in all seriousness though if the vaccinated people in a controlled arent are still have their lives dictating to them by NPHET what is the point.

    I really can't see how the government can defend the position that they have outsourced the decision making of the country to NpHET


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    ypres5 wrote: »
    and yet nphet and their overt cautiousness didn't stop government chartered flights from the uk bringing it here in the first place yet the public carry the can for that

    For someone so vocal about restrictions being removed I'm somewhat surprised to learn you think Irish residents should have been locked out of the country.

    I'm really curious to find out how you know this was the source of new variants.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    ypres5 wrote: »
    and yet nphet and their overt cautiousness didn't stop government chartered flights from the uk bringing it here in the first place yet the public carry the can for that

    No, that's on the gov mostly.
    NPHET have been calling for controls on international travel for ages and have been ignored until recently.


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