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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #4862
    shtpEdthePlum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 556 ✭✭✭shtpEdthePlum


    I'm a part time HCW and I got notice from my organisation that I would be receiving a text about vaccination a month ago. Still no text. I'd like to see a survey of over 85s to ascertain how many of them have been vaccinated.


  • #4863
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    shtpEdthePlum wrote: »
    I'm a part time HCW and I got notice from my organisation that I would be receiving a text about vaccination a month ago. Still no text. I'd like to see a survey of over 85s to ascertain how many of them have been vaccinated.

    Donnelly today said there are a few hundred over-85s that have yet to receive the first dose. Which is good going tbh.


  • #4864
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    seamus wrote: »
    Donnelly today said there are a few hundred over-85s that have yet to receive the first dose. Which is good going tbh.

    Good going? It is absolutely appalling that we still haven’t all over 85s done yet tbh


  • #4865
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    stefanovich wrote: »
    https://www.businessinsider.com/denmark-suspends-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-blood-clot-2021-3?r=US&IR=T

    Denmark suspends AZ vaccine for 14 days to investigate reports of blood clots among recipients.


    Unfortunately, AZ is becoming the 737 Max of vaccines. And there is a risk that even if shown that any concerns are minute, a hint of inferiority will pervade.


  • #4866
    kilns
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    retro:electro wrote: »
    Good going? It is absolutely appalling that we still haven’t all over 85s done yet tbh

    To be far, some complain about Irelands vaccination roll out but bar Britain Ireland is one the leading countries for head of population doses administered, which is good. Still a long way to go but its good compared to the other big major nations of Europe.

    It will be interesting to see what Britain does when they have fully vaccinated and have spare doses left, perhaps they could undo 800 years of bad blood and give Ireland their batches :D


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  • #4867
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Schools Id imagine a big factor here

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1370014585542037504


  • #4868
    MizMix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭MizMix


    My grand aunt who is 90 finally got her vaccine yesterday despite being in a care home for the past few months. She was moved between homes and seemed to slipped through the net (even though my Dad and uncle kept chasing). It took a lot of calling around and my dad got her in with her GP this week. I know this may be an outlier case but it was very frustrating- if she didn't have someone fighting on her behalf she would still be waiting today


  • #4869
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,273 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Looks like they will be a bit less specific in terms of their estimates. It probably makes sense with all the supply issues tbh

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1370016713329229825


  • #4870
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,080 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Looks like they will be a bit less specific in terms of their estimates. It probably makes sense with all the supply issues tbh

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1370016713329229825

    makes sense to a point but also means the HSE will be able to take pressure off themselves by having smaller targets

    Even if those targets are missed they'll blame supplies anyway


  • #4871
    Monster249
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Monster249


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Looks like they will be a bit less specific in terms of their estimates. It probably makes sense with all the supply issues tbh

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1370016713329229825

    If they don't estimate they can't be questioned when they fail to meet their goal week after week. Just another weak tactic to cover up their weak leadership.


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  • #4872
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,273 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    makes sense to a point but also means the HSE will be able to take pressure off themselves by having smaller targets

    Even if those targets are missed they'll blame supplies anyway

    There is a bit of that alright too alright Id say.


  • #4873
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,644 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Monster249 wrote: »
    If they don't estimate they can't be questioned when they fail to meet their goal week after week. Just another weak tactic to cover up their weak leadership.

    Same approach the govt is taking by not having a roadmap out of lockdown.
    If you dont have goals, you cant fail to meet them :rolleyes:


  • #4874
    Monster249
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Monster249


    timmyntc wrote: »
    Same approach the govt is taking by not having a roadmap out of lockdown.
    If you dont have goals, you cant fail to meet them :rolleyes:

    Exactly, it limits the actual decisions that they need to make which means they can't directly be criticized, it's so pathetic.


  • #4875
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Monster249 wrote: »
    If they don't estimate they can't be questioned when they fail to meet their goal week after week. Just another weak tactic to cover up their weak leadership.
    Or that they just don't know until they open the boxes! Not sure how better leadership would suddenly make more vaccines appear.


  • #4876
    Monster249
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Monster249


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Or that they just don't know until the open the boxes! Not sure how better leadership would suddenly make more vaccines appear.

    Other nations are at least trying to actively source more themselves.

    Our approach is "ah sure let them try". Sitting back and passing the book is such a weak and pathetic excuse.


  • #4877
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Monster249 wrote: »
    Other nations are at least trying to actively source more themselves.

    Our approach is "ah sure let them try". Sitting back and passing the book is such a weak and pathetic excuse.
    Trying doesn't mean finding but at least you look like you're doing something and it gets people off your back. We've already asked around and got a small batch of Moderna. That's really as good as it gets. Our current problems of supply are overwhelmingly down to AZ, with a Moderna dip this week. Q2 was always the increase in supplies and no amount of raging about things at present is going to change that.


  • #4878
    crossman47
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭crossman47


    retro:electro wrote: »
    Good going? It is absolutely appalling that we still haven’t all over 85s done yet tbh

    There will always be a few exceptions for a variety of reasons


  • #4879
    Monster249
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Monster249


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Trying doesn't mean finding but at least you look like you're doing something and it gets people off your back. We've already asked around and got a small batch of Moderna. That's really as good as it gets. Our current problems of supply are overwhelmingly down to AZ, with a Moderna dip this week. Q2 was always the increase in supplies and no amount of raging about things at present is going to change that.

    That would all be understandable and easily taken if the Government weren't putting every single egg in the vaccination basket before they eventually summon up enough courage to open back up.

    The fact that they keep revising targets downwards which will mean longer lockdown is not acceptable.


  • #4880
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Monster249 wrote: »
    That would all be understandable and easily taken if the Government weren't putting every single egg in the vaccination basket before they eventually summon up enough courage to open back up.

    The fact that they keep revising targets downwards which will mean longer lockdown is not acceptable.
    The HSE are providing vaccinations and targets, the government do all the rest. I see the arguments for continuing as we are for a few more weeks. Beyond that is questionable.


  • #4881
    Monster249
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Monster249


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The HSE are providing vaccinations and targets, the government do all the rest. I see the arguments for continuing as we are for a few more weeks. Beyond that is questionable.

    Yeah I think a return to level 3 mid-April or so would be tolerable, hearing them potentially push that back to mid-May or worse is just pathetic.


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  • #4882
    thebronze14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭thebronze14


    One thing I've been thinking recently...What is the story if there continues to be widescale delays and there's still only say 50/60% of the population vaccinated come September and those that are vulnerable need booster shots. I wonder will they be able to do both safely and effectively or are we back to stage 1 again?


  • #4883
    kilns
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Monster249 wrote: »
    Other nations are at least trying to actively source more themselves.

    Our approach is "ah sure let them try". Sitting back and passing the book is such a weak and pathetic excuse.

    Could be worse here in Switzerland, which is obviously a huge pharmaceutical country, with two of the biggest hailing from here. The Lonza manufacturing plant here is prodcuing for Moderna and has capacity for 600million doses which they expected to receive orders for, Moderna have only received orders for 400m doses.

    Late last year Lonza then approached the Swiss Government and offered to produced the remaining 200m dose capacity exclusively for them but the Swiss Government turned them down citing legal issues etc but the news is only breaking in the news papers here so its not being received well.


  • #4884
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    thebronze14 wrote: »
    One thing I've been thinking recently...What is the story if there continues to be widescale delays and there's still only say 50/60% of the population vaccinated come September and those that are vulnerable need booster shots. I wonder will they be able to do both safely and effectively or are we back to stage 1 again?
    Don't worry - people were worrying about vaccine supply months ago, and a couple of posters helpfully mocked that it was like driving from Galway to Dublin, and that you obviously couldn't base the estimated journey time on the time it took to drive out of your estate, so presumably they're expecting a vaccine supply ramp-up whereby they teleport once they hit Athlone.


  • #4885
    TobyHolmes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭TobyHolmes


    freedom day is 23rd May apparently


  • #4886
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭Russman


    kilns wrote: »
    Could be worse here in Switzerland, which is obviously a huge pharmaceutical country, with two of the biggest hailing from here. The Lonza manufacturing plant here is prodcuing for Moderna and has capacity for 600million doses which they expected to receive orders for, Moderna have only received orders for 400m doses.

    Late last year Lonza then approached the Swiss Government and offered to produced the remaining 200m dose capacity exclusively for them but the Swiss Government turned them down citing legal issues etc but the news is only breaking in the news papers here so its not being received well.

    No reason to doubt this being true, but why wouldn't the EU approach them to get that 200m additional capacity, no matter what the cost ?


  • #4887
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,273 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    TobyHolmes wrote: »
    freedom day is 23rd May apparently

    Really? That's just 1 day short of 7 weeks from the 5th April. Thought even the 6 would have started from the announcement before the 5th.


  • #4888
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    TobyHolmes wrote: »
    freedom day is 23rd May apparently

    Where'd you see that?


  • #4889
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,080 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Really? That's just 1 day short of 7 weeks from the 5th April. Thought even the 6 would have started from the announcement before the 5th.

    6 weeks would be from the 5th I would think

    Same way announcement was the Tuesday before 5th of March but the extension of restrictions was a month to 5th of April


  • #4890
    TobyHolmes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭TobyHolmes


    Stheno wrote: »
    Where'd you see that?


    irish times https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/covid-19-key-lockdown-restrictions-set-to-last-until-late-may-1.4506908


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  • #4891
    TobyHolmes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭TobyHolmes


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Really? That's just 1 day short of 7 weeks from the 5th April. Thought even the 6 would have started from the announcement before the 5th.


    i find trying to calculate it very difficult


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