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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #4382
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,657 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Level 4 is pretty much Level 5-light.

    No great and appreciable difference.

    Yeah and it will be a modified level 4 with the outdoor hospitality (15 customers max) been binned


  • #4383
    Dermot224
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭Dermot224


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Frankly don’t give a damn about the plastic things they make at the moment the priority is vaccines and More vaccines

    Disappointed that this so called pharma industry we have here in this country cannot adapt and churn out the vaccines desperately required

    Tha pharma companies have contracts to fulfil. They can't just decide to make covid 19 vaccines.


  • #4384
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,145 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    Dermot224 wrote: »
    Tha pharma companies have contracts to fulfil. They can't just decide to make covid 19 vaccines.

    its more they can't just randomly start making vaccines unless they have the facilities and resources and an actual vaccine to produce


  • #4385
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    I see Paul Reid earned €420k last year

    https://twitter.com/breakingnewsie/status/1369349652370268162


  • #4386
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Nice money that. Is he worth it? I'd love to see how that compares to the other EU countries and the UK.


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  • #4387
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    normanoffside wrote: »
    I see Paul Reid earned €420k last year

    https://twitter.com/breakingnewsie/status/1369349652370268162


    That's disgusting and probably a thread in itself

    He couldn't run a bath


  • #4388
    fred funk }{
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,838 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    Nearly 1k a week in expenses alone. Vile.


  • #4389
    paddyisreal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    Double what this equivalent in the UK gets. This gets more laughable by the day


  • #4390
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,292 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Akabusi wrote: »
    Nice money that. Is he worth it? I'd love to see how that compares to the other EU countries and the UK.

    CEO NHS England is on £189,900.


  • #4391
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Frankly don’t give a damn about the plastic things they make at the moment the priority is vaccines and More vaccines

    Disappointed that this so called pharma industry we have here in this country cannot adapt and churn out the vaccines desperately required

    I don’t recall seeing so much lack of knowledge being displayed so thoroughly in two sentences before


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  • #4392
    h2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭h2005


    jackryan34 wrote: »
    With vaccines out there and available I think PCR mass testing is way over the top

    We dont test people for flu, ebola and other illnesses outside of hospital or medical settings, you go in sick, you get tested, how its always been.

    We will have hundreds or even thousands of cases a day when we have no restrictions next winter. Virus is not going away, its going to be there, vaccines stop severe cases, who cares after that about variants etc, let scientists worry about it

    We need to live normal again

    Scientists need data. After the year we’ve had and what we’re still enduring I think it’d be prudent to keep up testing and sequencing.


  • #4393
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    He couldn't run a bath

    And he's fast proving he couldn't roll out a carpet :D


  • #4394
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Fergal Bowers on about the shortfall in vaccine delivery

    J&J won't have significant deliveries until May or probably into June

    Very hard to see vaccine targets being met in Q2

    NPHET then will use that failure to not ease restrictions on the rest of society

    Looking like an awful first 6 months of the year with SFA easing of restrictions


  • #4395
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Fergal Bowers on about the shortfall in vaccine delivery

    J&J won't have significant deliveries until May or probably into June

    Very hard to see vaccine targets being met in Q2

    NPHET then will use that failure to not ease restrictions on the rest of society

    Looking like an awful first 6 months of the year with SFA easing of restrictions

    Yeah it is a bit demoralising when we keep hearing of setbacks in the rollout of the vaccine. Could see the summer slipping away and the Government/NPHET reintroducing some sort of lockdown against next winter to protect the hospital system. Hard to see how 80% of the population will have one jab got by June.
    AZ was supposed to be the game changer but that has been a disaster. Then J&J was to come to the rescue but now it looks like we won't get any substantial supplies until well into June


  • #4396
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Fergal Bowers on about the shortfall in vaccine delivery

    J&J won't have significant deliveries until May or probably into June

    Very hard to see vaccine targets being met in Q2

    NPHET then will use that failure to not ease restrictions on the rest of society

    Looking like an awful first 6 months of the year with SFA easing of restrictions

    Agreed. Unless the impact of the vaccines is truly extraordinary


  • #4397
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,768 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    normanoffside wrote: »
    I see Paul Reid earned €420k last year

    https://twitter.com/breakingnewsie/status/1369349652370268162

    Ah here

    We're some mugs in this country


  • #4398
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Hospital numbers at 8pm

    Total 371 (down from 392 last night)
    ICU 93 (down from 101 last night)

    Last Tuesday
    Total 475
    ICU 112


  • #4399
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,660 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    At Christmas, a friend working at a senior level in J&J USA told me that vaccine manufacturers would really struggle on the raw materials. People told me that was rubbish.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=115962647

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #4400
    vafankillar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭vafankillar


    so today was the lowest cases since december 14th I think right?

    level 4 allows for outside dining & drinking, I wouldn't expect to see that yet in immediately in april. we still haven't even seen construction back and dublin bus is ridiculously still operating a saturday timetable mon-fri


  • #4401
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,516 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    giveitholly wrote: »
    Yeah it is a bit demoralising when we keep hearing of setbacks in the rollout of the vaccine. Could see the summer slipping away and the Government/NPHET reintroducing some sort of lockdown against next winter to protect the hospital system. Hard to see how 80% of the population will have one jab got by June.
    AZ was supposed to be the game changer but that has been a disaster. Then J&J was to come to the rescue but now it looks like we won't get any substantial supplies until well into June

    Whatever about the government underpromising the vaccine companies seem to have massively overpromised. Pfizer are doing ok relatively speaking, but not great. Modena is nowhere to be seen and AZs reputation will take years to recover.


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  • #4402
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    At Christmas, a friend working at a senior level in J&J USA told me that vaccine manufacturers would really struggle on the raw materials. People told me that was rubbish.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=115962647

    God you really blew the whole thing open there. You must be some sort of prophet. We won't doubt you again.


  • #4403
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Is the unwillingness of European governments to criticise China for letting the virus spread worldwide something to do with the severe restrictions introduced by those governments last year and which are still ongoing in many countries?

    It's not those governments' fault that the virus was able to spread from China to Europe. So why would those governments feel responsible for deaths caused by the virus in their countries?


  • #4404
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What did billy kelliher mean when he said astra zeneca and johnson and johnson will not be used or approved in the USA..why?


  • #4405
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Whatever about the government underpromising the vaccine companies seem to have massively overpromised. Pfizer are doing ok relatively speaking, but not great. Modena is nowhere to be seen and AZs reputation will take years to recover.

    Oh I agree about the vaccine companies,but the Government have put all their eggs in the one basket relying on vaccines to open up the country.They were prob willing to stay in level 5 until May to get as many as possible vaccinated. Their targets are not going to be met now so what will they do. People won't stand for strict restrictions through summer because if that happens then they will know we are facing further restrictions next winter


  • #4406
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    rusty cole wrote: »
    What did billy kelliher mean when he said astra zeneca and johnson and johnson will not be used or approved in the USA..why?

    I think that they are doing fine with Moderna and Pfizer. Seems to be flying along with vaccinations over there.

    Edit: I see 20% one dose and 10% two: not quite as much as I thought


  • #4407
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,273 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    rusty cole wrote: »
    What did billy kelliher mean when he said astra zeneca and johnson and johnson will not be used or approved in the USA..why?

    Hadnt seen his comments but J and J already approved in the USA end of last month.


  • #4408
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I think that they are doing fine with Moderna and Pfizer. Seems to be flying along with vaccinations over there

    Ok thats good but will they not even pass them??.


  • #4409
    newuser99999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭newuser99999


    rusty cole wrote: »
    What did billy kelliher mean when he said astra zeneca and johnson and johnson will not be used or approved in the USA..why?

    The FDA don’t accept results from trials of other countries.


  • #4410
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,516 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    giveitholly wrote: »
    Oh I agree about the vaccine companies,but the Government have put all their eggs in the one basket relying on vaccines to open up the country.They were prob willing to stay in level 5 until May to get as many as possible vaccinated. Their targets are not going to be met now so what will they do. People won't stand for strict restrictions through summer because if that happens then they will know we are facing further restrictions next winter

    The vaccination basket is really the only game in town to put your eggs into though. We have min 10% given at least a first dose already, and those people are the most at risk or the most exposed. While productions drops have been announced they are still miles up on what we had in jan so we should easily expect more than double that by the end of may. And thats a very very conservative number. With minimum 1 million at risk people vaccinated and if case numbers continue to drop as they are i cant see summer being anywhere near as bad as its been for the last 2 months.


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  • #4411
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    giveitholly wrote: »
    Oh I agree about the vaccine companies,but the Government have put all their eggs in the one basket relying on vaccines to open up the country.They were prob willing to stay in level 5 until May to get as many as possible vaccinated. Their targets are not going to be met now so what will they do. People won't stand for strict restrictions through summer because if that happens then they will know we are facing further restrictions next winter

    Yes the government have backed themselves into a large corner

    NPHET are linking vaccine rollout to easing restrictions

    People going to be very angry to have their lives kept on hold for months on end over a vaccine rollout and potential missed targets that they can do nothing about

    Any delays in reopening will cost the exchequer billions in further payments to keep society closed as well

    That money will eventually have to be paid back

    At the moment 2021 is looking worse than 2020 and that was bad enough


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