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The best thing they can do is have the Fiend beat Orton with Orton fecking off for a few weeks and coming back as his legend killer character

The Fiend can move onto someone else and become mortal again. He got set on fire came back but can't kick out of a claymore or Lashley lock etc

PTH2009 wrote: »

The best thing they can do is have the Fiend beat Orton with Orton fecking off for a few weeks and coming back as his legend killer character

The Fiend can move onto someone else and become mortal again. He got set on fire came back but can't kick out of a claymore or Lashley lock etc

The Legend Killer is old hat.

If they're gonna do something with that gimmick, it should come full circle with someone looking to kill the legend of Orton.

It would suit Adam Cole or Ciampa, if they weren't both 5'2.

Batattackrat wrote: »

Actually loving the Alexa fiend Orton segments.

Lashley deserves to be WWE champion.

WWE starting to do some things right.

I sense sexual tension chemistry between Orton and Bliss

J. Marston wrote: »

Aesthetics! Adam Cole staring up at Orton in promos despite being the aggressor in this imaginary storyline looks weird.

But its worked well through out history with the right booking. I see no issue with shorter men facing taller men.

Taker vs HBK didnt seem to be hindered by Shawns height.

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1369030169248292874

Me thinks some shenanigans by Drew and the Miz among others

Braun is also asking for an apology from Shane Mcmahon, no doubt he will beat the hell out of him with the commentary team saying 'its one of my destructive things they've ever seen'

Title match is pretty early ?

Bobby getting graphics galore

Shane McMahon apology time

Sheamus I’m 20 years living in Drew’s shadow this is coming from the man who has won everything in the WWE been a face of the WWE and starred in WWE movies and a guaranteed Hall of Famer lol

Drew has had a decent 1 year in his time in the WWE.

The step spot didn't look that sore, commentators going on like Sheamus died from it

So Raw,

Loved the opening interview with Lashley, his best promo is forever. I felt that he really believed what he was telling us, loads of passion. Where has this Lashley been.

Miz's promo was also very good too (to be fair his main plus is his mouth, always solid on the mic). Still believe he should be nowhere near the main event scene but I'll go with it.

Loved the new entrance for Lashley. Straight away he feels a bigger deal than previous. Its simple changes like this that can make a huge difference. Present him like a star and he will more likely become a star. MVP looks the part with his cane. His theme still sounds very generic though.

Now what should have happened...... Bobby should be steam rolling Miz. Granted Lashley looked strong but it should have been over early and sold too much for my liking. Its a minor gripe.

What I didnt like was the mid match advertising. Who cares about Braun Strowman and McMahon when the title is on the line..... stupid idea. Your title should be the focus beyond all else.

But its been 25 mins into Raw and I havent felt like fast forwarding. Happy that The Miz appears to be in and out in 2 weeks. So far so good.

Drews promo was good and logical. Drews had a tough time, hes carried the company (at least the Raw side) for a year, always enthusiastic, always 100 percent committed no matter what. No problem with Drew and Sheamo continuing. Last weeks match was a bright spot in an otherwise poor episode.

Truths act has been the same for years, but I cant help enjoy his bollox.

Braun looking for an apology makes him look weak. I liked Braun, but he needs to go away and regroup for a while. His character has been misbooked so badly in the last 2 years, he needs a reboot. Ive no interested in seeing Shane wrestle again, let alone with Braun. Both men are jokes at this stage. Their second segemnt in particular just went on too long and did nothing to get me on board with their future match.

Drew vs Sheamo was good, but disliked the finish. Id rather they just kept them apart until Fastlane than do this ending.

Orton v Fiend does very little for me beyond give me a chuckle now and then. Fiend / Bray Wyatt is a character killer. Rollins, Wyatt, Braun.......whoever he feuds with ends up worse for wear at the end of it. Orton was doing ok in 2020, and despite his best efforts (I really think he is not half assing it) its falling flat. Not a fan of the Fiend at all.

Loved the New Days MK inspired attire....are they angling for another game cameo after Gears 5.

Woods v Benji was a typical WWE tv match. It was fine.

Riddle vs Slapjack was fine. Again a paint by numbers TV match.

AJ v Randy was fine. Then we got the Bliss segment and the "black substance" (ya gotta love WWE verbiage). MEH.

WWE piped in crowd noise gets worse by the week. Simulated "Shane-O-Mac" chants.....really?. WWE really misses fans, their already soulless presentation is made worse each week without them. Its such a hollow product in terms of presentation.

A strong enough start to Raw by WWE standards, but the usual problems surface before you know it.

Necro wrote: »

I really hope they don't hand the title back to Drew at Mania. The Hurt Business and Lashley are by far the best thing about Raw in what seems like forever. Lashley finally seems like a star after years of mediocrity. He has always had the look, but the presentation was always wrong.

That being said... Drew VS Lashley for the WWE Championship is relatively fresh at Mania. If (and a big IF) it's booked right you could have two massive stars going forward.

I still maintain that Smackdown is better than Raw presently but that gap is narrowing a little now there seems to be some form of direction. For one I'm much more interested in Lashley VS Drew than I am Edge VS Reigns.

Fastlane should just be scrapped, far too many PPVs anyways and with no fans, what is the point this close to Mania?


The rest I could give or take. They really have no clue how to use Strowman, is he a heel, is he a face? Shane screwing him over is acting the heel but they pipe in boos for Strowman? Bizarre.

Jericho cut a promo on his original WWF debut that the mediocre was deemed acceptable. Man flash forward to today and WWEs product is very mediocre and its been accepted by management for far too long. Shane's angles in the last 3 years have all fallen flat, from his feud with The Miz, to Raw Underground .... yet they still believe he is a draw. Hes stale, his character is stale, hes not a great in ring competitor at his age....why wheel him out? Because he is a McMahon?

I just dont get it.

Necro wrote: »

I don't really mind the match as such personally as it gives Strowman something to do at least, remember that daft tag title match a few years back they gave him?

Shane will go out, take a few ridiculous bumps for him and most likely lose and that's fine - I'm just not really understanding why they're piping in the boos for Braun when he's being presented more as a face since his return.

I don't mind old timers returning when it's not the main event ala Goldberg but I do agree, Shane has been stale since his match with Taker and that was what - 3? 4? years ago?

A 51 year old non wrestler should be steamrolled by a 37 monster like Braun..... but it will go 25 mins and Braun will just about over come McMahon. Im sick of it.

And they wonder why they cant make new stars.

Shane will go out, take a few ridiculous bumps for him and most likely lose and that's fine - I'm just not really understanding why they're piping in the boos for Braun when he's being presented more as a face since his return.

This makes no lick of sense.... Braun has been presented like the face, yet they pipe it boo's and Shane chants. Shanes last night was an obvious cowardly heel. No sense I tells ya.

Did someone in the Raw writing team rewatch Twin Peaks recently? The Fiend stuff atm is reminding me off a knock off version of it.

Is Drew next for Bobby tonight or Fastlane?