Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Classic wooden speedboat build , sink, search for, recovery and rebuild.

1121315171821

Comments

  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Well as you would expect not much searching getting done on the water but have being doing a bit of searching on the net for the best and latest bit of kit that might help me :) one of the problems I have with the under water drone is that the water is so murky that it is nearly impossible to find the boats on the sonar as I have no idea where the drone is without a visual and the sonar only works while the boat is moving, well now Garmin has come out with the LVS32 transducer with this I will be able to see the drone live while the boat is stoped and guide it towards any objects I find, in livescope mode you can look out wherever you point it and in perspective mode you can look down. If anything it should be fun to see what the drone looks like on it. :D
    Hope you are all keeping safe and well and hopefully will be back out on the water soon.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Daibheid


    Wow! That is just incredible technology to have available to ordinary boaters - at any price! I remember back in the Nineties wreck hunting and GPS receivers were only just becoming available to the public. They all had Selective Error meaning +/- 100m position variation -even planted immobile on terra firma.
    A Differential GPS to acess the correction signal to reduce that error needed an annual subscription which alone cost way more than this transducer -every year!
    Colour echo Sounders were beyond the reach of amateurs and took a lot experience to discern anything manmade from the VGA display.
    So this gear is just mind boggling in both capability and price as well as ease of installation and use and no doubt reliability.
    A shrewd investment in search capability and if you can't find the boat with this Fergal you can take comfort that Robert Ballard couldn't do any better!
    Can't wait to see the videos - best of luck.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    So I was out this weekend with the intention of sending down the ROV on the image of the one with the trim tabs but as I was going over it I got a good side image of it and it looks nothing like mine :( possibly a Simms super V with a wrap around screen, On we go :)


    83fd0ee5ea5026af6c635ec7ef3f8e15.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭moonshadow


    Amazing image Fergal what depth are we talking about there ?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    She is at 57 feet.

    2e04b90509602fc1e288ab0fdf86021f.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭Odelay


    fergal.b wrote: »
    She is at 57 feet.

    2e04b90509602fc1e288ab0fdf86021f.jpg

    Lads have tried to sell worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    fergal.b wrote: »
    I also spent more time and money building her than she was worth :) it's more about the story than the money, sure I could have built another one but I had already done that challenge now I have a different challenge finding her and rebuilding her I thought I would have done it by now but I'm not writing the story she is :)



    .

    Jaysus. He’s a poet too...


  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭mufflets2


    Jesus that looks like a space ship Fergal.
    What sonar/equipment have you got on the boat to show that????


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    mufflets2 wrote: »
    Jesus that looks like a space ship Fergal.
    What sonar/equipment have you got on the boat to show that????

    A few bits and pieces :D that was on the Lowrance HDS carbon with 3D structure scan.

    0a7b2b0798798bd7ce120778980c4f16.jpg


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,023 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    I have a feeling that your next project, after you find your boat, will be a trip to Loch Ness for a look around...


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    New Home wrote: »
    I have a feeling that your next project, after you find your boat, will be a trip to Loch Ness for a look around...

    Been there done that :D

    b71ac2050527e660d1ee9ac2af57d35d.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    If you'd put up that sonar pic without the commentary I would have 100% bet the farm that you'd found her...


  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Exodus 1811


    I have just finished reading this thread. What a roller coaster.

    I have no experience with boats really, apart from varnishing a lough Sheelin boat for a friend. It was built by Jimmy Furey, one of the last he built. The craftmanship of working with wood is second to none. The time and effort that goes into it is amazing and has to be respected amongst all other hobbyists.

    I'll be watching this thread with bated breath!


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    I have just finished reading this thread. What a roller coaster.

    I have no experience with boats really, apart from varnishing a lough Sheelin boat for a friend. It was built by Jimmy Furey, one of the last he built. The craftmanship of working with wood is second to none. The time and effort that goes into it is amazing and has to be respected amongst all other hobbyists.

    I'll be watching this thread with bated breath!


    Funny you should mention Jimmy Furey I have just been asked by Cathy Mcaleavey "who was his apprentice" to restore an old seagull Jimmy gave her to go on one of the Wags or Shannon one's she is building, It was the Hands program that sparked my interest in boatbuilding back in the day and it will be an honour to restore and pull on the same little seagull that he had used.




    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,415 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Ahh jesus - I've just read this thread linked from Alpha Betas thread on the car hoard.
    This id so depressing. I hope you get your boat back from the depths. How much of the lough have you covered and would it be shifting so you're effectively searching for moving goalposts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    Also here from the car thread, great read , that mirror finish is insanely good, also your methods to solve problems at a good price are top notch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    When someone new comes along, who has just read the thread for the 1st time its almost like there is a sense of pity as you watch them freshly grieve, and come to terms with the shock.
    You almost want to say, don't worry it will get easier, give it time, acceptance will arrive, the sense of shock will reduce.
    On the bright side the OP has since has the opertunity to buy some very cool tech and is now probably better equipped than the irish naval service for underwater exploration


  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Exodus 1811


    fergal.b wrote: »
    Funny you should mention Jimmy Furey I have just been asked by Cathy Mcaleavey "who was his apprentice" to restore an old seagull Jimmy gave her to go on one of the Wags or Shannon one's she is building, It was the Hands program that sparked my interest in boatbuilding back in the day and it will be an honour to restore and pull on the same little seagull that he had used.

    .

    That's brilliant. The detail on the Lake boat was fantastic, I was in awe by the end of it... although I vowed never to sand and varnish it again.. me feckin fingers! It's still going strong though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    What's the car Hoard thread?


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,408 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Tom44


    Back to topic please, let's keep this boat story free from distraction


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I was on Lough Derg on Saturday & Sunday, and was searching around for Fergal, but you forget how big a lake it is when you haven’t been there in a while...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Tom44 wrote: »
    Back to topic please, let's keep this boat story free from distraction

    Distraction is what got me here many years ago.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭WildWater


    I was on Lough Derg on Saturday & Sunday, and was searching around for Fergal, but you forget how big a lake it is when you haven’t been there in a while...

    Is he not based on Lough Ree?


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    WildWater wrote: »
    Is he not based on Lough Ree?

    Not sure, thought it was Lough Derg, but I also crossed Lough Ree on Thursday & Monday!!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,023 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Not sure, thought it was Lough Derg, but I also crossed Lough Ree on Thursday & Monday!!


    Sounds like you had a Lough-down, instead of a lock-down. :D


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Plenty of sonar recording done over the weekend but the two boats I found were a small lake boat and what looks like a cuddy cabin. :(

    eb246bb52d9628ced5241061416929d4.jpg


    6995b206aaea62f203a03d9d1aa4e7ab.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    New Home wrote:
    Sounds like you had a Lough-down, instead of a lock-down.

    I'll get your coat.....


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Two more boats found over the weekend a large 40 footer and what may have been it's tender as it was quite close.


    ff21f928ceec97d45a527b8b418fbdb2.jpg


    429af04b18d943b9d78281d6046beacc.jpg


    ee4e8c3267f663933cc1cbaff9e11938.jpg


    Not sure what this is but it looks manmade and is over 200 foot long.

    a320b0ef15f243267ffcadd981991cc1.jpg


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    fergal.b wrote: »
    Two more boats found over the weekend a large 40 footer and what may have been it's tender as it was quite close.


    ff21f928ceec97d45a527b8b418fbdb2.jpg


    429af04b18d943b9d78281d6046beacc.jpg


    ee4e8c3267f663933cc1cbaff9e11938.jpg


    Not sure what this is but it looks manmade and is over 200 foot long.

    a320b0ef15f243267ffcadd981991cc1.jpg

    Where on the lake did your boat sink Fergal?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Thats the million dollar question :) I believe between marker 5-6 but could be anywhere between coosen point and Lecarrow, the red dots on the map are all boats I have found in the search area and the two I found this weekend are in an area I must have passed over more than 100 times and never seen anything so you just never know sometimes it depends on what angle you hit them at as to weather they look like a boat or a rock.





    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,154 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Fergal, do you have an Android or iPhone and did you have your phone with you on the day you sank?
    For example on Android, I can go back in time to any day and Google will kindly tell me where I was.



    Rk3al9w.png

    I would imagine Apple have something similar for iOS.
    Not sure how accurate it would be out on the lake.
    Maybe your rescuers could dig out theirs and you could correlate for a more accurate estimate of where it went down?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    fergal.b wrote: »
    Thats the million dollar question :) I believe between marker 5-6 but could be anywhere between coosen point and Lecarrow, the red dots on the map are all boats I have found in the search area and the two I found this weekend are in an area I must have passed over more than 100 times and never seen anything so you just never know sometimes it depends on what angle you hit them at as to weather they look like a boat or a rock.





    .

    Was it around Lecarrow where the boat took on water and went under initially?

    What are you basing your search area on?

    Did you ever search the stretch of Shannon towards Athlone?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Yep been through all that even got in touch with the phone company and asked if they could triangulate where the phone last pinged off a tower, they said I would have had to killed someone for them to do that. :eek: Google history only picked me up that morning but then nothing after that and the guy that picked me up only had an old Nokia with no GPS :(




    .


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Was it around Lecarrow where the boat took on water and went under initially?

    What are you basing your search area on?

    Did you ever search the stretch of Shannon towards Athlone?


    I had passed the turn off for Lecarrow as one of the last sights of land I had before the hailstones hit was the beached yacht, I was in the hailstones for a good 10 -15 min's travelling about 10 knots on the navigation line before I hit that 3rd wave and down she went. My sonar is always on and have done a good few trips to Athlone and other places around the lake just incase.






    .


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,023 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    fergal.b wrote: »
    Yep been through all that even got in touch with the phone company and asked if they could triangulate where the phone last pinged off a tower, they said I would have had to killed someone for them to do that. :eek: Google history only picked me up that morning but then nothing after that and the guy that picked me up only had an old Nokia with no GPS :(

    .
    Could you make an official request under GDPR? Or FOI? Or does that only cover the public service?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    New Home wrote: »
    Could you make an official request under GDPR? Or FOI? Or does that only cover the public service?

    Not sure how it works but I'd say even if they could do it for me they would only be able to put me in the area and I'm sure I am already in that area. I still have the dead old phone if anyone wants to work some magic on it :)




    .


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    This could be a problem :D


    53a53a317c7f882fa24c6ea8a87ba118.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭Alkers


    fergal.b wrote: »
    This could be a problem :D


    53a53a317c7f882fa24c6ea8a87ba118.jpg

    If there's any man who can DIYhack his way to Mars....


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,408 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    I got excited when I saw an update to this thread. Alas...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    fergal.b wrote: »
    This could be a problem :D


    53a53a317c7f882fa24c6ea8a87ba118.jpg

    How fast were you going over that wave?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Sorry about that duepit I would be the same if I was on the other side :) hopefully I will get back out looking soon, in the meantime I just finished building another little classic wooden boat, hopefully I don't lose this one :D




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭wheelo01


    Is this just a model, or an actual remote control model? Built and designed by you, or a kit?

    Any links if it's a kit?, it's a thing of beauty.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    wheelo01 wrote: »
    Is this just a model, or an actual remote control model? Built and designed by you, or a kit?

    Any links if it's a kit?, it's a thing of beauty.

    It's a kit built by me and is remote control here is a link to it if you have any questions you can ask them here. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058131091

    It is an old kit called a "Amati riva aquarama model boat 1603" it will be hard to find the same kit but there is a newer one called "Amati riva aquarama 1608" the Rc gear and the sound box didn't come with the kit so you will have to buy them, I also had to make the lights.





    .


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,023 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home




  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Only if it can walk as far as the pub :) I do have another little project in the pipe line I'm thinking of building one of Ted Moores cedar strip canoes called Hiawatha.


    img_2711.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭SCOL


    Where can you buy cedar in Ireland ? I have been toying with the idea of building one for a long time now.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    SCOL wrote: »
    Where can you buy cedar in Ireland ? I have been toying with the idea of building one for a long time now.

    I can get it here and it's inside my 5k limit :)

    http://www.thetimberyard.ie/Cedar-Western-Red-Dublin-Ireland-Quinn-Hardwoods-Ltd-s/1881.htm




    .


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭SCOL


    Lusk, happy days as I work not too far from there.


Advertisement