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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #4172
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Welcome back spookwoman,missed your daily posts recently


  • #4173
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    big syke wrote: »
    Was that actually said? Big news if so...
    No, it's a rare occurrence. Last year, 450 pregnancies were reported to the Health Protection Surveillance Centre where a woman had a positive Covid-19 diagnosis. The vast majority had mild COVID.


  • #4174
    big syke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭big syke


    is_that_so wrote: »
    No, it's a rare occurrence. Last year, 450 pregnancies were reported to the Health Protection Surveillance Centre where a woman had a positive Covid-19 diagnosis. The vast majority had mild COVID.

    So its complete bollocks that the 4 deaths were beacuse of covid like the poster said??


  • #4175
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    big syke wrote: »
    Was that actually said? Big news if so...

    It was reported by fergal bowers afterwards.
    He also reported on claims that the vaccine is detrimental to female fertility which he said was not backed up by evidence, but did also say that there was limited evidence that c19 negatively affects male fertility (which I didn't know).


  • #4176
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    big syke wrote: »
    So its complete bollocks that the 4 deaths were beacuse of covid like the poster said??
    No, that is true but it is rare. It's a condition called Covid Placentitis and it can cause complications.


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  • #4177
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    They only mention that on Thursday.

    One of the journalists trying to spread the narrative that the covid vaccine causes male infertility.
    Are they a journalist or a "journalist"?

    There was a short medical article last year suggesting a theoretical impact on male fertility from contracting Covid - to do with testicles being a potential binding site for the spike protein.

    This got into conspiracy circles and was completely misunderstood.

    And because these people are idiots it developed over time into a theory that the vaccine was a population control attempt because it would affect male fertility.

    The more respectable faces of this loony fringe will say there are "questions" about the vaccine's impact on male fertility. There aren't. And the anti-vaxxers don't actually care about the answer. They're just straight evil fvckers trying to sow distrust in the vaccine.


  • #4178
    big syke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭big syke


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    It was reported by fergal bowers afterwards.
    He also reported on claims that the vaccine is detrimental to female fertility which he said was backed up by evidence, but did also say that there was limited evidence that c19 negatively affects male fertility (which I didn't know).

    So what was said? Was it another "reported on claims" type of statement?


  • #4179
    big syke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭big syke


    is_that_so wrote: »
    No, that is true but it is rare. It's a condition called Covid Placentitis and it can cause complications.

    Crazy that 4 happened in a week in little oul Ireland and after a year and 117 millions cases its not more widespread...


  • #4180
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    It was reported by fergal bowers afterwards.
    He also reported on claims that the vaccine is detrimental to female fertility which he said was not backed up by evidence, but did also say that there was limited evidence that c19 negatively affects male fertility (which I didn't know).

    They only have evidence in a few weeks after infection. That's normal with anything with a fever.

    Using a hot tub can reduce male fertility.

    That's why the balls are outside the body. To keep sperm cool. It doesn't work as well when you have a fever.


  • #4181
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    big syke wrote: »
    Crazy that 4 happened in a week in little oul Ireland and after a year and 117 millions cases its not more widespread...
    I believe that two of the cases were from last year and who knows what other countries are reporting. Deaths here can be reported for up to 3 months so the day of the report is not necessarily the day of the death.


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  • #4182
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    big syke wrote: »
    Crazy that 4 happened in a week in little oul Ireland and after a year and 117 millions cases its not more widespread...

    What are the odds? 11 cases worldwide out of 115,000,000+ cases and we get 4 in a few weeks.


  • #4183
    big syke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭big syke


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I believe that two of the cases were from last year and who knows what other countries are reporting.

    I saw the report now. It is not definite and the reports are preliminary.

    "Dr Murphy said it was the view of pathologists in Ireland that Covid-19 was "a significant factor" in four preliminary reports of stillbirths confirmed at the NPHET briefing last Thursday."


  • #4184
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,586 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    0 deaths
    437 cases
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #4185
    [Deleted User]
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    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Changing what narrative? It's not the first time I've said that the population are ahead of the government regulations and that's why we can't get dates for loosening

    It's also evidence that people were going to do whatever they wanted at Christmas

    Yeah and that guy was a clown for suggesting that we were under house arrest. FFS, hyperbole of the highest order.




    sorry to burst your bubble but from this report in the Irish Independent today, it seems the 3rd and most fatal wave of Covid started as early as 22 November, long before the "Christmas madness and granny killers "started to celebrate and throw caution to the wind CAUSING all of this! This is a pandemic and no amount of blame and finger pointing was going to prevent it spreading, especially at the height of our flu season. Ironic that this year there were NO cases of flu recorded :rolleyes:?


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/devastating-third-wave-of-covid-19-began-before-lockdown-lifted-for-christmas-new-report-reveals-40171776.html


  • #4186
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Glynn saying worst of this pandemic behind us

    Strange to hear such optimism


  • #4187
    crossman47
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    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Pathologist has sadly confirmed that those 4 still births from last week were as a result of covid-19.

    I presume there will be posters here apologising for their posting that called the guarded cautious statement from Glynn as scaremongering.

    Does anybody know why these stillbirths are recorded as deaths. The regular Vital Statistics do not include them as deaths.


  • #4188
    Steve012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    A fourth wave, anyone expecting this after lockdown? it didn't happen last summer, with different variants now I ain't so sure there won't be a fourth.

    Hopefully will burn out like last summer.


  • #4189
    snotboogie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,810 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    20k vaccines is actually really good. That puts us at 0.4% per day. That's up there with the likes of Serbia and Bahrain, I'd imagine thats in the top 10 globally and just behind the UK who are hitting 0.5% per day.


  • #4190
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    crossman47 wrote: »
    Does anybody know why these stillbirths are recorded as deaths. The regular Vital Statistics do not include them as deaths.
    We record possible and probable deaths as well. That's what they may be. It can happen, albeit rarely, with COVID.


  • #4191
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Glynn saying worst of this pandemic behind us

    Strange to hear such optimism

    Tony will be back next week after that comment.


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  • #4192
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    sorry to burst your bubble but from this report in the Irish Independent today, it seems the 3rd and most fatal wave of Covid started as early as 22 November, long before the "Christmas madness and granny killers "started to celebrate and throw caution to the wind CAUSING all of this! This is a pandemic and no amount of blame and finger pointing was going to prevent it spreading, especially at the height of our flu season. Ironic that this year there were NO cases of flu recorded :rolleyes:?


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/devastating-third-wave-of-covid-19-began-before-lockdown-lifted-for-christmas-new-report-reveals-40171776.html

    How many people are going to quote the misreading by a journalist of what essentially is just a reporting period as being the start of the surge? Anyone can look at the data and see that by all measures of the virus numbers were still declining for weeks after the 22nd?


  • #4193
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Glynn saying worst of this pandemic behind us

    Strange to hear such optimism

    There has been plenty of optimism from NPHET briefings for weeks now,

    You know this, because you are told every single time you try to thrash out this nonsense that you should watch the actual briefings.


  • #4194
    crossman47
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭crossman47


    is_that_so wrote: »
    We record possible and probable deaths as well. That's what they may be. It can happen, albeit rarely, with COVID.

    We do but my point is these aren't deaths at all. They are stillbirths and these are never recorded anywhere as deaths.


  • #4195
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Faugheen wrote: »
    There has been plenty of optimism from NPHET briefings for weeks now,

    You know this, because you are told every single time you try to thrash out this nonsense that you should watch the actual briefings.

    Relax Ronan


  • #4196
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    crossman47 wrote: »
    We do but my point is these aren't deaths at all. They are stillbirths and these are never recorded anywhere as deaths.
    But we do record deaths linked to COVID, which they may have been.


  • #4197
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Steve012 wrote: »
    A fourth wave, anyone expecting this after lockdown? it didn't happen last summer, with different variants now I ain't so sure there won't be a fourth.

    Hopefully will burn out like last summer.

    There could be but if most of the over 70s and vulnerable adults are vaccinated, it would want to take one really ****ed up variant for it to lead to anything near like the mortality we’ve seen in this wave.


  • #4198
    crossman47
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭crossman47


    is_that_so wrote: »
    But we do record deaths linked to COVID, which they may have been.

    No because they're not deaths in the first place.


  • #4199
    Steve012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    Faugheen wrote: »
    There could be but if most of the over 70s and vulnerable adults are vaccinated, it would want to take one really ****ed up variant for it to lead to anything near like the mortality we’ve seen in this wave.

    Yes, this is what I'm hoping for!!
    Cheers


  • #4200
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Relax Ronan

    So you have nothing of any substance to add other than troll-y comments like this when you’re called out for your bullsh*t, again.

    I’ll see you on Thursday when no doubt you will be once again surprised by the optimism from the NPHET briefing.


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  • #4201
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Steve012 wrote: »
    Yes, this is what I'm hoping for!!
    Cheers

    I should add I’m not an epidemiologist or anything of the sort. That’s just me guessing!


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