Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

User142 · 08-03-2021 06:06PM

timmyntc wrote: »

It's an Irish version of solutions tried by everyone else.
A half-assed implementation of zero-covid last summer, a half-assed implementation of "living with covid" when no vaccines were on the horizon.
And now a half-assed version of the UKs roadmap out of lockdown.

When exactly did we half ass implement a zero covid policy? Like what month did we try and implement it?

paw patrol · 08-03-2021 06:08PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

She refers to herself as a barrister on her twitter profile, but she ain't registered
https://www.lawlibrary.ie/members/results.aspx?fname=tracey&sname=O%27Mahony&DPA=0&language=None&circuit=All+Circuits&areas=All+Areas&status=Either&specialisation=All+Areas

barristers don't have to register with the law library afaik

If she was advertising services as a barrister and she wasnt one, she'd be before the courts as a defendant.

Deleted User wrote: »

Everyone knows the law library is a front for the lizard people

this is probably the only truthful thing you've ever posted on this thread

Windmill100000 · 08-03-2021 06:58PM

paw patrol wrote: »

This is probably the only truthful thing you've ever posted on this thread

Petty and false.

Penfailed · 08-03-2021 07:16PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yet a "zero covid" policy is not being followed, but in fact a less date specific version of what the UK is doing

England. There's no dates on the plan north of the border either.

timmyntc · 08-03-2021 07:16PM

User142 wrote: »

When exactly did we half ass implement a zero covid policy? Like what month did we try and implement it?

Last summer when we kept everything shut while cases were around 15 a day or so, meanwhile rest of europe (and UK) were living their lives.

08-03-2021 07:37PM

timmyntc wrote: »

Last summer when we kept everything shut while cases were around 15 a day or so, meanwhile rest of europe (and UK) were living their lives.

Understatement.

Time of their lives, albeit with masks etc., would have been more accurate.

growleaves · 08-03-2021 07:49PM

Happy International Women's Day guys. It's just sad that Fungie isn't here to celebrate it with us.

Beasty · 08-03-2021 08:19PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

Yea just shows there is a clear agenda there by a large cohort of the medical community who do not like civil liberties, do not trust people to make their own risk based assessment and want pubs/bars shut forever.

It is these people who are now pretty much in control of Ireland and the government are too scared to question them.

Keep your conspiracy theories to yourself, or take them to the correct forum. There have been numerous warnings that this forum is not a place for such "discussion"

paw patrol · 08-03-2021 09:44PM

Windmill100000 wrote: »

Petty and false.

I think that was the aim of my comment

if you read what I was quoting
a modicum of awareness would tell you it was a joke.

FintanMcluskey · 09-03-2021 12:12AM

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/2021/03/08/tds-warning-over-irelands-increasing-debt-mountain/

It is likely to mean that Ireland will be the third highest indebted nation of the world surpassed by only the US and Japan.

“There is no doubt that the enormity of this debt has been added to by Ireland having the longest and most severe economic lock down in the EU.

They cleverly managed to convince a great deal of people it was other people enjoying Christmas that caused the longest strictest lockdown.

That started in March 2020

Penfailed · 09-03-2021 07:39AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/2021/03/08/tds-warning-over-irelands-increasing-debt-mountain/

They cleverly managed to convince a great deal of people it was other people enjoying Christmas that caused the longest strictest lockdown.

That started in March 2020

“Our debt mountain, however, can be reduced by managed inflation and steady growth," he added.

FintanMcluskey · 09-03-2021 09:11AM

Misery vampire McConkey has been wheeled out on Newstalk again

Of the opinion the relaxation in Ireland needs to be slower

paw patrol · 09-03-2021 09:27AM

Penfailed wrote: »

“Our debt mountain, however, can be reduced by managed inflation and steady growth," he added.

sure, QE which is what they do . Do they ever have another idea?
We are currently under a QE measure called PEPP which (I think) runs to march 2022.
Of course , this will lessen the debt burden but make sh1t of the savings people have. Prices will rise but will your salary rise with it? Previous history says no.

Another days argument but yet again The FIAT does giveth with one hand and taketh with the other , or something like that

So it's not a winning situation.

FintanMcluskey · 09-03-2021 09:47AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Let me guess, he went on to say we could ease restrictions more quickly if we went for a zero covid approach?

He didn’t mention 0 Covid this time

Alluded to our approach causing difficulties achieving low case numbers

And mentioned B117

Sounds like a WW2 bomber

opinionated3 · 09-03-2021 09:52AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Misery vampire McConkey has been wheeled out on Newstalk again

Of the opinion the relaxation in Ireland needs to be slower

I'm actually going the other way now because of listening to these privileged experts. Open up as much as is possible. Get people back to work.

User1998 · 09-03-2021 10:11AM

Possible easing of restrictions for vaccinated people:

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/nphet-to-examine-potential-of-additional-freedoms-for-people-vaccinated-1093051.html

JMNolan · 09-03-2021 10:48AM

User1998 wrote: »

Possible easing of restrictions for vaccinated people:

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/nphet-to-examine-potential-of-additional-freedoms-for-people-vaccinated-1093051.html

No surprise after the CDCs advice in the states.

mightyreds · 09-03-2021 10:51AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Misery vampire McConkey has been wheeled out on Newstalk again

Of the opinion the relaxation in Ireland needs to be slower

I don't think you can move slower than stopped.

dalyboy · 09-03-2021 10:58AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

He didn’t mention 0 Covid this time

Alluded to our approach causing difficulties achieving low case numbers

And mentioned B117

Sounds like a WW2 bomber

Economically speaking that’s exactly what it is.

09-03-2021 11:10AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Misery vampire McConkey has been wheeled out on Newstalk again

Of the opinion the relaxation in Ireland needs to be slower

It's very simple, McConkey is earning a healthy shilling being in demand during lockdown. Issuing portents of doom, tallying up his appearance fees. Restrictions being eased is disaster for the chancer, relevance starts to fade as those TV/radio spots dry up. Watch him squirm when those of us struggling over past year finally return to work proper, becoming an object of public ridicule would be an added bonus.

paw patrol · 09-03-2021 11:14AM

User1998 wrote: »

Possible easing of restrictions for vaccinated people:

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/nphet-to-examine-potential-of-additional-freedoms-for-people-vaccinated-1093051.html

thank fcuk for Mehole - never thought Id say that!

Last week, Taoiseach Micheál Martin quashed the idea of a vaccine bonus for people who received the jab in Ireland, saying he was not in favour of the idea.

I cannot believe people* suggesting a 2 tier society based on medical have and have nots. That is medical apartheid

*I mean people of actual influence not malcontents of boards.

JMNolan · 09-03-2021 11:15AM

I didn't hear McConkey but I read he said we should follow what the UK are doing? Which I wouldn't be against.

Level 42 · 09-03-2021 11:23AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Misery vampire McConkey has been wheeled out on Newstalk again

Of the opinion the relaxation in Ireland needs to be slower

slower than less than 5 cases in cork yesterday and i cant go more than 5 km-any slower and wed be in solitary confinement like Andy Dufresne in the shawshank redemption

FintanMcluskey · 09-03-2021 11:50AM

JMNolan wrote: »

I didn't hear McConkey but I read he said we should follow what the UK are doing? Which I wouldn't be against.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/mcconkey-reopening-needs-to-be-slower-and-more-gradual-than-last-summer-1161802

Professor Sam McConkey says the reopening of society should be slower and more gradual than it was last summer.

The infectious diseases expert says there should be a five-week gap between each stage of reopening.

Professor McConkey - head of the Department of International Health and Tropical Medicine at RCSI - told Newstalk Breakfast we should look to the UK's current approach when it comes to easing restrictions this time around. He observed: “I was relatively impressed with a press conference by Boris Johnson and UK’s Chief Medical Officer Chris Whitty about four or five weeks ago.

“Chris Whitty outlined the need for a gradual, step-wise reopening - he pointed out we should have, in his opinion, five weeks between each jump in the step of relaxation.”
Professor McConkey said two weeks are needed to see the impact of eased restrictions on the daily case numbers, and then another two weeks to ensure those numbers aren’t a ‘blip’.

He was impressed at the UK’s conservative plans

Not the ones that will have 10,000 fans at PL games this season

He wants us more suppressed than last Summer, in spite of the fact the vaccine is causing massive decays in hospitals cases, and the fact that last Summer Ireland was Europe’s most suppressed nation

Russman · 09-03-2021 11:53AM

paw patrol wrote: »

thank fcuk for Mehole - never thought Id say that!

I cannot believe people* suggesting a 2 tier society based on medical have and have nots. That is medical apartheid

*I mean people of actual influence not malcontents of boards.

Sure haven't a select few of the malcontents on boards been advocating that for months now, you know with the whole "let the medically vulnerable people lock themselves away and let the rest of us get on with it"

FintanMcluskey · 09-03-2021 11:56AM

Russman wrote: »

Sure haven't a select few of the malcontents on boards been advocating that for months now, you know with the whole "let the medically vulnerable people lock themselves away and let the rest of us get on with it"

Better have us all locked away in solidarity, while the national debt piles up to record levels, almost 3rd in the world.

Now repeat after me, we are all in this together.

Meanwhile those at risk are now fully protected, while ironically not going to foot the bill

Graham · 09-03-2021 12:01PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

the fact that last Summer Ireland was Europe’s most suppressed nation

Not a fact

lee_baby_simms · 09-03-2021 12:03PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

https://www.newstalk.com/news/mcconkey-reopening-needs-to-be-slower-and-more-gradual-than-last-summer-1161802

He was impressed at the UK’s conservative plans

Not the ones that will have 10,000 fans at PL games this season

He wants us more suppressed than last Summer, in spite of the fact the vaccine is causing massive decays in hospitals cases, and the fact that last Summer Ireland was Europe’s most suppressed nation

Are you surprised? Mad McConkey and his Merry band of ISAG dark lords will always want restrictions.

Just this morning Tomas Ryan expressed concern over the possibility of fragments of the virus now incubating on Mars via the Perseverance rover.

“This is not something we should rule out. If there’s life on Mars that gives the virus ample opportunity to mutate and one thing we can be sure of is that this virus thrives on our complacency.”

Hector Savage · 09-03-2021 12:09PM

Graham wrote: »

Not a fact

I live in Spain.

Can confirm this chart is dishonest bollocks.

Apart from traveling back home I can do almost everything I did before this pandemic started.

I wasn't going to matches and nightclubs before anyway.

But tennis, the odd lunch/dinner in a restaurant, going to the beach, going for a hike etc .. all ok.

FintanMcluskey · 09-03-2021 12:10PM

Graham wrote: »

Not a fact

OECD disagrees

Ireland’s first lockdown was by far the longest in Europe for bars, restaurants, cinemas and non-essential shops, according to a new report. The Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) health system policy tracker states that public spaces defined as parks, restaurants, bars, cinemas, non-essential shops and services were closed in Ireland for 120 days from March 12th.

The country with the next highest number of days where public spaces were shut was Finland (74 days) followed by Slovakia (66 days) and Bulgaria and Estonia (both 65 days).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/pandemic-lockdown-economic-forecast-5226321-Oct2020/%3famp=1

The value added to the Irish economy by construction activity fell by 38% in the first six months of the year as a result of the pandemic-related shutdown measures. This represents the worst decline in Europe.

Of course we are now the only country in the globe to close domestic construction this year

We are unlikely to see any improvement on last years metrics

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings