Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

Jinglejangle69 · 04-03-2021 11:40PM

ypres5 wrote: »

it would've made sense for us to try and get an order of the sputnik vaccine before the eu approve it and doses get hoovered up but i guess it might have taken some initiative or maybe it might've been vetoed like antigen tests

I brought this up 6 weeks ago and was told no way.

ypres5 · 04-03-2021 11:42PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

I brought this up 6 weeks ago and was told no way.

same ive suggested it previously and you'd swear i suggested injecting people with black tar heroin

Penfailed · 04-03-2021 11:51PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Leo really can't keep his gob shut, another interview

He's the Tanaiste. He's not supposed to 'keep his gob shut'.

hynesie08 · 05-03-2021 12:07AM

Penfailed wrote: »

He's the Tanaiste. He's not supposed to 'keep his gob shut'.

These public figures really should be more private, spokesmen should be quiet as well.....

05-03-2021 12:07AM

According to the news today Antigen tests will be made available in Germany for free along with self-test kits.
Members of the public will be allowed one free test per week.

That is how to go about getting to "relaxation of restrictions" and an open society.

Penfailed · 05-03-2021 12:09AM

Boggles wrote: »

Shít, when did Ian Brown lose his mind?

He didn't even do drugs, if it were the lads from the Happy Mondays it would be understandable.

Citation required.

normanoffside · 05-03-2021 01:14AM

Deleted User wrote: »

According to the news today Antigen tests will be made available in Germany for free along with self-test kits.
Members of the public will be allowed one free test per week.

That is how to go about getting to "relaxation of restrictions" and an open society.

NPHET are still waiting for their 15th report back from some anonymous group before refusing to approve even them for limited use.
Meanwhile almost every other EU country accept them as travel certificates.

Another thing I’ve been saying for many months but NPHET are stuck in their trenches and don’t want to change the status quo. Lockdown is the only way for them.

bb1234567 · 05-03-2021 01:28AM

The Brits seem very chirpy on twitter lately. Vaccine rollout really has been lightning fast and that will be what people remember..the UK gov really did finish on a high note..the 130,000 excess deaths will be mostly forgotten in months after everyone has gone on their much needed holiday to the mediterranean coast..

growleaves · 05-03-2021 01:34AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

The Brits seem very chirpy on twitter lately. Vaccine rollout really has been lightning fast and that will be what people remember..the UK gov really did finish on a high note..the 130,000 excess deaths will be mostly forgotten in months after everyone has gone on their much needed holiday to the mediterranean coast..

As I've said before, there was an article in the Guardian months ago saying that lockdown had led to 10,000 dementia deaths in England and Wales aggravated by isolation of the elderly.

The whole thing of simply taking excess deaths and adding them to the covid column is false.

I suspect that lockdown is the cause of many of these deaths but we don't quite know yet.

In any case they are not all covid deaths - that is actually already an established fact.

ypres5 · 05-03-2021 01:43AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

According to the news today Antigen tests will be made available in Germany for free along with self-test kits.
Members of the public will be allowed one free test per week.

That is how to go about getting to "relaxation of restrictions" and an open society.

nphet would fit perfectly in the late days of the soviet union in how sluggish and bureaucratic it is.

SilentGreenx32 · 05-03-2021 01:52AM

This needs to end this year!! These are years of our lives we will NEVER get back again. I will continue to go to protests regardless of what I will be labeled as by the pedants on this board. We are in for 5 or 6 months total of level 5 lockdown where we cant even get a haircut or go to the gym. Sitting back and being quiet as we are told to just " hold firm" "just a few more weeks" is just too much and we need to get our voices heard. My mam wont even visit her sisters until the government says its ok while they trudge through the vaccination process. Its been over 3 months since she has seen them. This is ****ing ridiculous

bb1234567 · 05-03-2021 02:00AM

growleaves wrote: »

As I've said before, there was an article in the Guardian months ago saying that lockdown had led to 10,000 dementia deaths in England and Wales aggravated by isolation of the elderly.

The whole thing of simply taking excess deaths and adding them to the covid column is false.

I suspect that lockdown is the cause of many of these deaths but we don't quite know yet.

In any case they are not all covid deaths - that is actually already an established fact.

Well I didn't say they were all COVID. But whatever the cause whether because of poor management of COVID transmission rates or mismanagement of the health/care services in general because of restrictions they are as result of particularly messy government responses in every aspect , the sheer number of excess deaths is especially prominent in the UK compared to the rest of Western Europe as I said I think that it will be lagrely ignored now because of the success of the vaccine rollout.

Russman · 05-03-2021 05:04AM

growleaves wrote: »

As I've said before, there was an article in the Guardian months ago saying that lockdown had led to 10,000 dementia deaths in England and Wales aggravated by isolation of the elderly.

The whole thing of simply taking excess deaths and adding them to the covid column is false.

I suspect that lockdown is the cause of many of these deaths but we don't quite know yet.

In any case they are not all covid deaths - that is actually already an established fact.

Agreed. Likewise the narrative (not pushed by yourself) that if there’s no excess deaths, there’s no pandemic is also false.

05-03-2021 06:23AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Well worth a watch if you have time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lXAA7ZOROc

This man reminds me of Bertrand Russell.
His points come from a place of deep reflection on, and understanding of political history, philosophy and human nature.

I wish people would take the time to watch this interview and think carefully about what he is saying — not least our own political leaders and journalists.

05-03-2021 07:59AM

I actually saw three people wearing facemasks with smiley emojis on yesterday in my little town. No clue if they were actually doing it because of the #SmilesMatter thing but it was still notable.

daydorunrun · 05-03-2021 09:17AM

McConkey putting out an ISAG press release in the Journal this morning-

1. We will not succeed without addressing the issue of travel into Ireland. As Australia has done, we could ask and insist that all travellers coming into Ireland quarantine in supervised quarantine facilities for 14 days. The border with Northern Ireland can be dealt with through special permits or bubble zones for cross-border workers, who will have to take other precautions instead. A system of permits and frequent antigen tests could be established for freight drivers.

2. We need to implement full Covid related sick-pay so that people across every sector of the economy do not feel like they have no choice but to go to work when they are sick.

3. We need to make it easier for people to access GP care, by providing telephone translators for migrant workers, for example.

4. Backwards contact tracing needs to happen. We need to identify who the virus was contracted from and who it was passed on to.

5. To successfully break the chains of transmission, we need rapid local and national outbreak investigations and outbreak management that expands in ever-increasing circles around infected people to ensure that all the people that they got the virus from are known, and that all of the people they might have transmitted it to are in strict isolation.

6. Where housing or circumstances do not allow for safe, or reliable, self-quarantine, both cases and close contacts should be offered local options for supported isolation and quarantine away from home (e.g., in local hotels).

7. When people who have Covid-19 do not self-isolate after being advised and encouraged, then legal enforcement is needed.

8. We can help people to do the right thing by providing organised financial support and voluntary practical support for those in isolation or restricted movements, to help with childcare, family caring, shopping, loneliness and isolation.

9. Local teams of outbreak management staff at village and town or parish area could visit households where outbreaks have occurred, to offer support, and provide pop-up testing in those areas. They could also investigate businesses where outbreaks have occurred, and provide education and encouragement for change to businesses where outbreaks are suspected.

10. We should establish sector-specific working groups with each industry, sport, religious and cultural groups to plan the staged opening of safe activity at each level.

Being the first country in Europe to choose and to achieve a near-zero Covid outcome would bring much-needed relief to the people and businesses of Ireland.

It would also be an excellent political outcome for the government as showing a dramatic example of successful leadership, which other countries and regions in Europe are likely to follow.

First time I've seen enforced quarantine of positive cases mentioned- that would cause a big drop in people with no symptoms willing to be tested.

Also note he's calling it 'Near' Zero covid now and the NI border is easily solved.

Kivaro · 05-03-2021 09:26AM

From the video above:
"There is more to life than the avoidance to death".
Doesn't it all boil to this? Severe restrictions will need to end permanently after this lockdown.

TomTomTim · 05-03-2021 09:27AM

daydorunrun wrote: »

McConkey putting out an ISAG press release in the Journal this morning-

First time I've seen enforced quarantine of positive cases mentioned- that would cause a big drop in people with no symptoms willing to be tested.

Also note he's calling it 'Near' Zero covid now and the NI border is easily solved.

Comments closed. The Journal are an absolute joke.

ypres5 · 05-03-2021 09:31AM

TomTomTim wrote: »

Comments closed. The Journal are an absolute joke.

the best compliment you can pay the journal is that it's free although that's probably just because even the writers themselves are aware no one would pay a subscription to read that ****e

normanoffside · 05-03-2021 09:58AM

daydorunrun wrote: »

McConkey putting out an ISAG press release in the Journal this morning-

First time I've seen enforced quarantine of positive cases mentioned- that would cause a big drop in people with no symptoms willing to be tested.

Also note he's calling it 'Near' Zero covid now and the NI border is easily solved.

We already tried the ‘Near Zero Covid’ and got down to 3 cases in a day. We actually managed to make ISAG’s target of less than 10 a day as a 7-day average. It didn’t work. I don’t know what planet these people are living on.

Boggles · 05-03-2021 10:03AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The guy is a former senior Supreme Court judge who served for a number of years

His views on the dangers of relinquishing certain freedoms is as informed and credible as anyone’s

Only worth 15 seconds of time for some though

His views are of a raving pandemic denialist based on Eugenics.

Lord Sumption tells stage 4 cancer patient her life is ‘less valuable'

Charming fellow.

Boggles · 05-03-2021 10:05AM

normanoffside wrote: »

Cork this weekend.

https://twitter.com/GraTire/status/1361357260979638273

Jaysus, poor Guards in Cork are in for a treat.

Graham · 05-03-2021 10:09AM

normanoffside wrote: »

We actually managed to make ISAG’s target of less than 10 a day as a 7-day average. It didn’t work.

The target was <10.

The target was achieved.

It didn't work?

SnuggyBear · 05-03-2021 10:11AM

Boggles wrote: »

His views are of a raving pandemic denialist based on Eugenics.

Lord Sumption tells stage 4 cancer patient her life is ‘less valuable'

Charming fellow.

Where is the raving pandemic denialist in this clip? Try harder Boggles.

Boggles · 05-03-2021 10:17AM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Where is the raving pandemic denialist in this clip? Try harder Boggles.

No that clip highlights his fondness for Eugenics.

What do you think of him telling a 39 year old woman her life is of less value because she has cancer?

Silentcorner · 05-03-2021 10:20AM

ypres5 wrote: »

the best compliment you can pay the journal is that it's free although that's probably just because even the writers themselves are aware no one would pay a subscription to read that ****e

If The Journal closed their comments section they're readership would fall through the floor...their comment section is keeping them alive...now what does that say about them?

Analogs daughter · 05-03-2021 10:23AM

Boggles wrote: »

No that clip highlights his fondness for Eugenics.

What do you think of him telling a 39 year old woman her life is of less value because she has cancer?

That's the thing Boggles, medically he's right.

If that woman got very sick and was brought into her local hospital, due to her prognosis she would not be brought to the intensive care unit. In effect due to her limited outlook, the health service would not waste precious resources to keep her alive.

Just as well you're not in charge of her health system or you'd have our ICU's full with 95 year old patients.

SnuggyBear · 05-03-2021 10:28AM

Boggles wrote: »

No that clip highlights his fondness for Eugenics.

What do you think of him telling a 39 year old woman her life is of less value because she has cancer?

It's not nice for her to hear that but it's the truth.

walus · 05-03-2021 10:31AM

Boggles wrote: »

No that clip highlights his fondness for Eugenics.

What do you think of him telling a 39 year old woman her life is of less value because she has cancer?

How is that relevant to the clip referenced here Boggles?

Boggles · 05-03-2021 10:32AM

Jaysus we really have reached peak insidious when a cretin preaching Eugenics is the poster child for a certain cohort.

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