Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

suicide_circus · 04-03-2021 07:49PM

Well worth a watch if you have time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lXAA7ZOROc

Monster249 · 04-03-2021 08:20PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

While it's true that phase 1-3 trials ran concurrently rather than consecutively in the unprecedented race to respond to an ongoing pandemic, "long-term" does not compress, and wouldn't with all the resources in the world.

Neither you nor anyone else knows how quickly any long-term adverse effects from mRNA vaccines show up. You don't need to pretend that you have some divine knowledge to say that you're cool with the vaccine. Risk is inherent in all medicine.

And I'm afraid if you're expecting me to start changing my opinions because someone you disagree with shares them you'll be waiting a good long ****ing time, and that's the last time I'll address any such similar nonsense.

Lucky enough you're in the vast minority of individuals with this opinion so no one cares if you change your opinion or not.

Boggles · 04-03-2021 08:30PM

Deleted User wrote: »

While it's true that phase 1-3 trials ran concurrently rather than consecutively in the unprecedented race to respond to an ongoing pandemic, "long-term" does not compress, and wouldn't with all the resources in the world.

Neither you nor anyone else knows how quickly any long-term adverse effects from mRNA vaccines show up. You don't need to pretend that you have some divine knowledge to say that you're cool with the vaccine. Risk is inherent in all medicine.

And I'm afraid if you're expecting me to start changing my opinions because someone you disagree with shares them you'll be waiting a good long ****ing time, and that's the last time I'll address any such similar nonsense.

If you are apprehensive about taking a vaccine speak with your GP when the times comes.

Chances are the way things are going you will more than likely be offered the J&J one anyway.

Boggles · 04-03-2021 08:33PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Well worth a watch if you have time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lXAA7ZOROc

I got to 14 seconds before switching it off.

Just goes to show you can't trust online reviews.

suicide_circus · 04-03-2021 08:55PM

Boggles wrote: »

I got to 14 seconds before switching it off.

Just goes to show you can't trust online reviews.

Excellent contribution, would read again

04-03-2021 08:57PM

Boggles wrote: »

I got to 14 seconds before switching it off.

Just goes to show you can't trust online reviews.

You're missing out, Boggles. Really picks up from 15 seconds on.

Penfailed · 04-03-2021 08:57PM

Boggles wrote: »

So zero tangible evidence to disprove the Commissioners summation?

I have asked several times and none is forthcoming.

So Fair enough. I'll have to stick with the numerous evidence I have seen and the Commissioners word on it.

Jesus Boggles. You don't think that Ireland has had the longest, harshest lockdown in Europe and now you don't think there were 'normal' people at the protest? There are none so blind as those who will not see.

FintanMcluskey · 04-03-2021 08:58PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Excellent contribution, would read again

The guy is a former senior Supreme Court judge who served for a number of years

His views on the dangers of relinquishing certain freedoms is as informed and credible as anyone’s

Only worth 15 seconds of time for some though

suicide_circus · 04-03-2021 09:03PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The guy is a former senior Supreme Court judge who served for a number of years

His views on the dangers of relinquishing certain freedoms is as informed and credible as anyone’s

Only worth 15 seconds of time for some though

I don't agree with everything he says but he makes his case clearly and forcefully and he makes some excellent observations.

normanoffside · 04-03-2021 09:34PM

Boggles wrote: »

I got to 14 seconds before switching it off.

Just goes to show you can't trust online reviews.

I sometimes get the impression you're in the wrong thread...

walus · 04-03-2021 09:44PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Well worth a watch if you have time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lXAA7ZOROc

Brilliant analysis of this sh1t show and where we are all heading.

Beasty · 04-03-2021 09:59PM

eskimohunt threadban lifted following discussion with user

bb1234567 · 04-03-2021 10:02PM

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1367419572547117057

Will be mad to read back on some of the headlines like this in years to come. Imagine waking up from a coma and seeing this story out of context

04-03-2021 10:04PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Will be mad to read back on some of the headlines like this in years to come. Imagine waking up from a coma and seeing this story out of context

Precisely.

I think society is so consumed by the COVID experience that the shock value of much of what is happening won't hit home until many years into the future.

No doubt we will all have our own "mad" stories of what happened during "the Pandemic" (or whatever colloquial phrase will develop to account for this period).

suicide_circus · 04-03-2021 10:07PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1367419572547117057

Will be mad to read back on some of the headlines like this in years to come. Imagine waking up from a coma and seeing this story out of context

Very sad

wakka12 · 04-03-2021 10:10PM

Presumably there will be another anti-lockdown protest this weekend of some scale,will be interesting to see whteher the attendance grows or reduces. I would say overall the national public reaction last week seemed to be unsupportive and dismissive and even downright aggressive,and the media framing it as far right event also further hammered that home, so I wonder if that will put anyone else off going, or the fact quite a large crowd came last week will have encouraged more to attend the next one.

suicide_circus · 04-03-2021 10:15PM

I'd say the protests could be low level for a few weeks after the last sh1tshow

normanoffside · 04-03-2021 10:23PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Presumably there will be another anti-lockdown protest this weekend of some scale,will be interesting to see whteher the attendance grows or reduces. I would say overall the national public reaction last week seemed to be unsupportive and dismissive and even downright aggressive,and the media framing it as far right event also further hammered that home, so I wonder if that will put anyone else off going, or the fact quite a large crowd came last week will have encouraged more to attend the next one.

Cork this weekend.

https://twitter.com/GraTire/status/1361357260979638273

04-03-2021 10:36PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Cork this weekend.

https://twitter.com/GraTire/status/1361357260979638273

Now see this is a problem.

I'm in favor of loosening restrictions faster than the government has announced, but this chap - in the Tweet - is so extreme that he and his lot are being lumped together with sensible moderates.

Though I'm skeptical of the Irish hard lockdown, I'm equally as against conspiracy theorist paranoid-types such as him.

Both extreme ends of the spectrum.

normanoffside · 04-03-2021 10:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Now see this is a problem.

I'm in favor of loosening restrictions faster than the government has announced, but this chap - in the Tweet - is so extreme that he and his lot are being lumped together with sensible moderates.

Though I'm skeptical of the Irish hard lockdown, I'm equally as against conspiracy theorist paranoid-types such as him.

Both extreme ends of the spectrum.

He seems to be quite left of centre.

04-03-2021 11:01PM

Anyone watching Prime Time, Paul Reid the waffler "if you take this quarter alone, we're trying to scale up..." Did you ever hear such non-committal blah. Hard fact, nine weeks into the program only 3% of the population have been vaccinated. Crawling along, getting outmanoeuvred by the UK and looking dim-witted compared to our continental neighbours. The economy stagnates further while the Government sits on their hands, is it any wonder the protest movement is gaining traction.

Allinall · 04-03-2021 11:04PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Anyone watching Prime Time, Paul Reid the waffler "if you take this quarter alone, we're trying to scale up..." Did you ever hear such non-committal blah. Hard fact, nine weeks into the program only 3% of the population have been vaccinated. Crawling along, getting outmanoeuvred by the UK and looking dim-witted compared to our continental neighbours. The economy stagnates further while the Government sits on their hands, is it any wonder the protest movement is gaining traction.

I didn’t realise we were in competition with the UK.

From what I can see we have administered about 98% of the vaccines that we have received, and are above average in the regard.

What will protests achieve to improve that?

Loafing Oaf · 04-03-2021 11:10PM

Allinall wrote: »

I didn’t realise we were in competition with the UK.

From what I can see we have administered about 98% of the vaccines that we have received, and are above average in the regard.

What will protests achieve to improve that?

I've heard big pharma is very impressed by lads chucking fireworks at the cops

suicide_circus · 04-03-2021 11:24PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/eu-blocks-vaccine-australia/2021/03/04/c89b07c6-7cff-11eb-8c5e-32e47b42b51b_story.html

Not a good look for the EU again.

I mean, i understand it but i could also understand Australia viewing it as a hostile act

suicide_circus · 04-03-2021 11:26PM

Allinall wrote: »

I didn’t realise we were in competition with the UK.

From what I can see we have administered about 98% of the vaccines that we have received, and are above average in the regard.

What will protests achieve to improve that?

If the Ireland is above the EU average then something is going wrong with the EU vaccine plan i would suggest. Ireland needs to join the list of other EU states going offside and securing vaccines outside the EU program

Graham · 04-03-2021 11:31PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

If the Ireland is above the EU average then something is going wrong with the EU vaccine plan i would suggest. Ireland needs to join the list of other EU states going offside and securing vaccines outside the EU program

I read Austria and another country are trying that approach. Any idea what vaccines and where they're acquiring them?

PTH2009 · 04-03-2021 11:32PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

If the Ireland is above the EU average then something is going wrong with the EU vaccine plan i would suggest. Ireland needs to join the list of other EU states going offside and securing vaccines outside the EU program

Our lads don't have the balls to do that. Were the good boys of Europe

ypres5 · 04-03-2021 11:34PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

If the Ireland is above the EU average then something is going wrong with the EU vaccine plan i would suggest. Ireland needs to join the list of other EU states going offside and securing vaccines outside the EU program

it would've made sense for us to try and get an order of the sputnik vaccine before the eu approve it and doses get hoovered up but i guess it might have taken some initiative or maybe it might've been vetoed like antigen tests

Graham · 04-03-2021 11:36PM

ypres5 wrote: »

it would've made sense for us to try and get an order of the sputnik vaccine before the eu approve it

Is EU approval on the cards?

Has it even been put in for approval?

Added; looks like the approval process started yesterday.

ypres5 · 04-03-2021 11:40PM

Graham wrote: »

Is EU approval on the cards?

Has it even been put in for approval?

Added; looks like the approval process started yesterday.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-starts-rolling-review-sputnik-v-covid-19-vaccine&ved=2ahUKEwiTkuGA2pfvAhVThlwKHWzGDu4QFjAGegQIFxAD&usg=AOvVaw0ko4-5xlXDUzZSrzptdCfB

the time for us to put in an order was weeks ago when the astrazeneca fiasco started becoming apparent

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings