Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01

Locotastic · 04-03-2021 08:41PM

penny piper wrote: »

telling them that 3 children had just tested positive for coronavirus...luckily my daughter hadn't been teaching them....

Let's hope the kids were OK.

Locotastic · 04-03-2021 08:45PM

Sammy2012 wrote: »

Are they closing classes with confirmed cases now or what is happening?

Not sure if the protocol has changed, the school that I know of that's closed had to close due to there being not enough staff as some out with Covid or isolating.

deiseindublin · 04-03-2021 08:49PM

Neagra wrote: »

a riddle for those who believe that teachers students and parents have a right to know if a fellow student or teacher tests positive in a school.

should those who work in retail like aldi, tesco etc, have a right to know if a shopper who visited their place of work tested positive
before you rush to answer have a real good think about the math involved
if your answer is no then you explain to me your reasons

Thanks

Wow, did you come up with that all on your own? Really puts all those pesky drama queens back in their box :rolleyes: .

Millem · 04-03-2021 08:51PM

Warbeastrior wrote: »

8 Dublin schools already reported cases.

Article on "Dublin Live"

Have these schools all been back since 11th Feb? I wonder if they spread within the school?

rsl1976 · 04-03-2021 08:58PM

Millem wrote: »

Have these schools all been back since 11th Feb? I wonder if they spread within the school?

Informed of a case in my daughters school today, they are back since Monday and not on the list of 8 announced today

Millem · 04-03-2021 09:08PM

rsl1976 wrote: »

Informed of a case in my daughters school today, they are back since Monday and not on the list of 8 announced today

Gosh it would make you wonder if they were unwell going in on Monday

Is the classroom closed now?

rsl1976 · 04-03-2021 09:11PM

Millem wrote: »

Gosh it would make you wonder if they were unwell going in on Monday

Is the classroom closed now?

Just been told that the class are out now until 16th March and all kids to be tested.

Millem · 04-03-2021 09:15PM

rsl1976 wrote: »

Just been told that the class are out now until 16th March and all kids to be tested.

Classroom closed

So back on 16th....whoever tested positive was sick on 2nd I guess?
Fingers crossed your daughter does not get it.

am_zarathustra · 04-03-2021 09:20PM

Neagra wrote: »

a riddle for those who believe that teachers students and parents have a right to know if a fellow student or teacher tests positive in a school.

should those who work in retail like aldi, tesco etc, have a right to know if a shopper who visited their place of work tested positive
before you rush to answer have a real good think about the math involved
if your answer is no then you explain to me your reasons

Thanks

Classrooms and shops are different. If you try and learn algebra in an Aldi you will be unlikely to grasp 3 way simultaneous equations effectively and if you come to my school you won't find a pallet of sparkling water.

Sammy2012 · 04-03-2021 09:20PM

rsl1976 wrote: »

Just been told that the class are out now until 16th March and all kids to be tested.

Well thats good that the class is all out!

am_zarathustra · 04-03-2021 09:21PM

Millem wrote: »

Classroom closed
So back on 16th....whoever tested positive was sick on 2nd I guess?
Fingers crossed your daughter does not get it.

Can I ask what the general feeling is about it among parents? Are they happy to have the info and ok with the precaution of closing?

rsl1976 · 04-03-2021 09:34PM

am_zarathustra wrote: »

Can I ask what the general feeling is about it among parents? Are they happy to have the info and ok with the precaution of closing?

It's a different class to my daughter but I'm happy to see that they have decided to keep that class at home and get them all tested. I know one of the parents in the other class is frustrated as they have been seeing no one outside of their household but it can't be helped. I'm happy enough to send daughter back but if this 1 case leads to a bigger outbreak then I may reconsider

Millem · 04-03-2021 09:42PM

rsl1976 wrote: »

It's a different class to my daughter but I'm happy to see that they have decided to keep that class at home and get them all tested. I know one of the parents in the other class is frustrated as they have been seeing no one outside of their household but it can't be helped. I'm happy enough to send daughter back but if this 1 case leads to a bigger outbreak then I may reconsider

I am so glad that everyone in the house needs to stay indoors.
In my son’s school siblings in other classes were allowed to go about their business and go to school.

rsl1976 · 04-03-2021 09:43PM

Millem wrote: »

I am so glad that everyone in the house needs to stay indoors.
In my son’s school siblings in other classes were allowed to go about their business and go to school.

Our school used to just get "the pod" tested, this seems to be a new procedure

wirelessdude01 · 04-03-2021 09:46PM

rsl1976 wrote: »

Our school used to just get "the pod" tested, this seems to be a new procedure

School has nothing to do with this. Public health dictate what occurs. No classes are back at primary level that have pods anyway.

Millem · 04-03-2021 09:50PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

School has nothing to do with this. Public health dictate what occurs. No classes are back at primary level that have pods anyway.

My niece is back. She is in first class and they use “pods”. There was a case in her class before Xmas but she wasn’t tested as not on her table.....which is what a pod is from what I gather?

rsl1976 · 04-03-2021 09:52PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

School has nothing to do with this. Public health dictate what occurs. No classes are back at primary level that have pods anyway.

Our classes are not allowed mix with other tables while in class so we refer to them as pods

wirelessdude01 · 04-03-2021 09:53PM

Millem wrote: »

My niece is back. She is in first class and they use “pods”. There was a case in her class before Xmas but she wasn’t tested as not on her table.....which is what a pod is from what I gather?

Yes a pod is just a fancy name for a table group. Pods aren't required from a social distancing/covid perspective for the junior classes. This is as indicated by The DES.

deiseindublin · 04-03-2021 09:54PM

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TonyMaloney · 04-03-2021 10:33PM

I was rooting around for some covid data when I happened upon this.

The HSE regularly perform mass testing in various settings - meat factories and so on. The image below is based on data from their most recent mass testing of childcare facilities, taken between 21/02/2021 – 27/02/2021.

Of the 307 kids randomly tested in 38 facilities, 50 of them were positive for covid. 16% of the little feckers.
For a bit of context, our current 7-day national positivity rate is 4.2%. And that is predominantly made up of symptomatic people getting tested.

For a little further context, in the week between 15/11/2020 – 21/11/2020, where the national incidence level was close enough to what we have now and in a similar mass test of 658 kids in 38 facilities, 9 tested positive. 1.4%

I might be late to the party with all this, but I haven't read about it in the news and it seems kind of alarming to me.

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid-19-schools-and-childcare-facilities-mass-testing-report-week-8-2021.pdf

Stateofyou · 04-03-2021 10:35PM

Jesus

caveat emptor · 04-03-2021 10:45PM

Fvck. Well they did say they'd test. That's crazy

FishOnABike · 04-03-2021 11:00PM

Neagra wrote: »

a riddle for those who believe that teachers students and parents have a right to know if a fellow student or teacher tests positive in a school.

should those who work in retail like aldi, tesco etc, have a right to know if a shopper who visited their place of work tested positive
before you rush to answer have a real good think about the math involved
if your answer is no then you explain to me your reasons

Thanks

No. A shop like Aldi or Tesco is much larger than a classroom, much higher ceilings, larger floor area and will have a mechanical ventilation system which will ensure a minimum rate of air exchange. Shoppers don't usually remain in the shop all day. It there is any concern the employee can have the CoViD app on their phone to help flag any (unlikely) close contact.

In a school the classroom has a lower ceiling, less floor area, 30ish people seated relatively close to eachother for almost the whole day. Few schools have mechanical ventilation so air exchange depends on leaving a door and windows (if possible) open and whether there's much of a breeze (and it's not raining so windows can be left open - if they do open).

Schools and shops could scarcely be any more different than they are.

FishOnABike · 04-03-2021 11:27PM

am_zarathustra wrote: »

Can I ask what the general feeling is about it among parents? Are they happy to have the info and ok with the precaution of closing?

I'd prefer that an entire class were considered close contacts to a confirmed case and all had to isolate and be tested. Applying this policy consistently would go a long way towards reducing the potential for spread in schools.

Millem wrote: »

I am so glad that everyone in the house needs to stay indoors.
In my son’s school siblings in other classes were allowed to go about their business and go to school.

I'd hope that's siblings of the close contacts rather than siblings of the confirmed case and if any of the close contacts tested positive their contacts would then have to isolate and be tested.

Millem · 04-03-2021 11:31PM

FishOnABike wrote: »

I'd prefer that an entire class were considered close contacts to a confirmed case and all had to isolate and be tested. Applying this policy consistently would go a long way towards reducing the potential for spread in schools.

I'd hope that's siblings of the close contacts rather than siblings of the confirmed case and if any of the close contacts tested positive their contacts would then have to isolate and be tested.

Class was shut down...class were contacts and awaited test. Test took about 5 days. All siblings of contacts allowed to attend school will contacts awaited test.

Warbeastrior · 05-03-2021 01:04AM

Deleted User wrote:

Every single one of those caught the virus prior to returning to school. Cases are also now at the same level they were when all schools went back after autumn midterm

And now those kids have could have spread that virus to classmates who in turn to family members at home.
Its irrelevant where they get it, its who is exposed to it.

Warbeastrior · 05-03-2021 01:04AM

Deleted User wrote:

Every single one of those caught the virus prior to returning to school. Cases are also now at the same level they were when all schools went back after autumn midterm

And now those kids have could have spread that virus to classmates who in turn to family members at home.
Its irrelevant where they get it, its who is exposed to it.

Locotastic · 05-03-2021 08:23AM

Warbeastrior wrote: »

And now those kids have could have spread that virus to classmates who in turn to family members at home.
Its irrelevant where they get it, its who is exposed to it.

It's very relevant where they got it, contact tracing isn't just about who you might have spread it to. It also helps identify who might have spread it to you and asymptomatic people who otherwise dont know they have it.

There were cases before in schools and there will be cases now.

Children are not being vaccinated and schools cant close forever so dealing with cases as they arise is best we can do, it's not possible to eliminate and keep covid out of schools completely.

Millem · 05-03-2021 08:29AM

Locotastic wrote: »

It's very relevant where they got it, contact tracing isn't just about who you might have spread it to. It also helps identify who might have spread it to you and asymptomatic people who otherwise dont know they have it.

There were cases before in schools and there will be cases now.

Children are not being vaccinated and schools cant close forever so dealing with cases as they arise is best we can do, it's not possible to eliminate and keep covid out of schools completely.

Where did they get it?
From what I can see those schools have been opened since 11th February.

Lillyfae · 05-03-2021 08:31AM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I was rooting around for some covid data when I happened upon this.

The HSE regularly perform mass testing in various settings - meat factories and so on. The image below is based on data from their most recent mass testing of childcare facilities, taken between 21/02/2021 – 27/02/2021.

Of the 307 kids randomly tested in 38 facilities, 50 of them were positive for covid. 16% of the little feckers.
For a bit of context, our current 7-day national positivity rate is 4.2%. And that is predominantly made up of symptomatic people getting tested.

For a little further context, in the week between 15/11/2020 – 21/11/2020, where the national incidence level was close enough to what we have now and in a similar mass test of 658 kids in 38 facilities, 9 tested positive. 1.4%

I might be late to the party with all this, but I haven't read about it in the news and it seems kind of alarming to me.

Further context: those are children of essential workers who's parents are working on the front line, out in the community, at a much higher risk than those who are at home not utilising emergency childcare.

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Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01