General Star Trek thread

nyarlothothep · 01-03-2021 12:31AM

pah wrote: »

Had one here about twenty years ago.

Overrated and the ferengi behind the bar took some convincing reagrding my USIT ID. You know the ones where they used to write your DOB on it in biro :D:D Nearly had to slip him some gold pressed latinum under the counter.

Damn! I would have liked to have gone to that. What a tragedy gah!

fritzelly · 01-03-2021 12:32AM

Anyone go to the Star Trek experience thing in London years ago - was a big let down apart from the TNG bridge

Markitron · 01-03-2021 08:59AM

pixelburp wrote: »

Apparently there used to be a Star Trek Experience in Las Vegas I think, with costumed staff and a bar you could order "authentic" Trek drinks. Friend of mine went with his Trek obsessed sister, I believe it closed a few years back though

I went twice in 2007, it was fantastic. The Borg encounter experience was utterly fantastic but the main attraction was Quark's bar, was such a good laugh and all the costumed 'cast' were well up for it and in character. Had some serious cocktails in there too, borg sphere was amazing.

TheValeyard · 01-03-2021 05:26PM

Markitron wrote: »

I went twice in 2007, it was fantastic. The Borg encounter experience was utterly fantastic but the main attraction was Quark's bar, was such a good laugh and all the costumed 'cast' were well up for it and in character. Had some serious cocktails in there too, borg sphere was amazing.

Fcuk I'm jealous

breezy1985 · 01-03-2021 07:51PM

Markitron wrote: »

I went twice in 2007, it was fantastic. The Borg encounter experience was utterly fantastic but the main attraction was Quark's bar, was such a good laugh and all the costumed 'cast' were well up for it and in character. Had some serious cocktails in there too, borg sphere was amazing.

Can you play the "Allamaran count to 4" game

Wedwood · 01-03-2021 11:25PM

Some of you may remember the Star Trek exhibition in Mosney around 1995/6.

It had displays of costumes, sets, props and models from the TV series and movies. Among the highlights I remember were the actual Enterprise movie model used in the first 6 movies, all the main cast costumes from both TV and movies (eg Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Khan, Chang, Picard, Data etc), phasers and tricorders from the original series and the original bridge set.

The exhibition toured the world, here’s a link to a video of the exhibition when it arrived in Germany.https://youtu.be/RAm-tQdtALE

beauf · 01-03-2021 11:41PM

pixelburp wrote: »

Apparently there used to be a Star Trek Experience in Las Vegas I think, with costumed staff and a bar you could order "authentic" Trek drinks. Friend of mine went with his Trek obsessed sister, I believe it closed a few years back though

I was at that. you went on a virtual ride on a ship then the exit was through the Quark's bar.

Evade · 01-03-2021 11:43PM

Wedwood wrote: »

Some of you may remember the Star Trek exhibition in Mosney around 1995/6.

My mum used to enter every RTE Guide competition and tickets to this were one of her wins. The only things I really remember about it were the TNG transporter pad, Borg costumes, an the early DS9 style science division uniform top I got.

TheValeyard · 02-03-2021 12:43AM

Wedwood wrote: »

Some of you may remember the Star Trek exhibition in Mosney around 1995/6.

It had displays of costumes, sets, props and models from the TV series and movies. Among the highlights I remember were the actual Enterprise movie model used in the first 6 movies, all the main cast costumes from both TV and movies (eg Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Khan, Chang, Picard, Data etc), phasers and tricorders from the original series and the original bridge set.

The exhibition toured the world, here’s a link to a video of the exhibition when it arrived in Germany.https://youtu.be/RAm-tQdtALE

I remember that. Was great. Playing with the transporter pad was cool and sitting in all the Captains chairs when staff werent looking.

Markitron · 03-03-2021 02:44PM

pah wrote: »

I recall the lights went down and the sound of a transporter beam was heard, the set was changed while the lights were down then you went through sliding doors to the Enterprise D bridge. It was awesome

Yep, that was absolutely incredible. The production values were insane.

Before the start of the tour when everyone was lined up, the tour guide pointed at my Star Wars t shirt and told everyone to boo me - which they did. Pissed myself laughing.

TheValeyard · 03-03-2021 04:43PM

Markitron wrote: »

Yep, that was absolutely incredible. The production values were insane.

Before the start of the tour when everyone was lined up, the tour guide pointed at my Star Wars t shirt and told everyone to boo me - which they did. Pissed myself laughing.

beauf · 03-03-2021 04:54PM

pah wrote: »

I recall the lights went down and the sound of a transporter beam was heard, the set was changed while the lights were down, when they came up you were on the ship then you went through sliding doors to the Enterprise D bridge. It was awesome

I have a vague recollection of some emergency and you have to do a mission, so you have a escape a warbird or something. So long ago. Enjoyed it at the time.

beauf · 03-03-2021 04:59PM

Just started watching DS9 with one of the kids. I only ever watch it intermittently originally. So I've never seen all of it. Its holding their interest so far.

pixelburp · 05-03-2021 02:14AM

https://deadline.com/2021/03/star-trek-movie-kalinda-vazquez-jj-abrams-paramount-1234706899/

Kalinda Vazquez set to write a script for a new Trek movie. A not entirely amazing past CV, while it's unclear if this will be an original script or feature preexisting characters.

fritzelly · 05-03-2021 02:19AM

I think I already hate it

pixelburp · 05-03-2021 02:26AM

I checked and she wrote the Short Trek "ask not" and the second part of season 3 Terran 2 parter. So yeah, not a fabulous start but look. I'm giving her the benefit here because why not? Not like the movies are ever that great bar ... what? Maybe 3, 4 stone cold classics total, couple of guilty pleasures maybe; so perhaps with a blank slate she can pen something good. That Terran story would be a millstone around anyone's neck.

AMKC · 05-03-2021 11:14AM

beauf wrote: »

Just started watching DS9 with one of the kids. I only ever watch it intermittently originally. So I've never seen all of it. Its holding their interest so far.

Good to hear. Enjoy it. Hope you enjoy all 7 seasons. What other series have you watched with them. Have you watched TOS or TNG with them?

Rawr · 05-03-2021 11:30AM

pixelburp wrote: »

I checked and she wrote the Short Trek "ask not" and the second part of season 3 Terran 2 parter. So yeah, not a fabulous start but look. I'm giving her the benefit here because why not? Not like the movies are ever that great bar ... what? Maybe 3, 4 stone cold classics total, couple of guilty pleasures maybe; so perhaps with a blank slate she can pen something good. That Terran story would be a millstone around anyone's neck.

I'd be inclined to get some benefit of the doubt and hope for the best. This is, if this even got made. There's been plenty of announcements of a movie post-Beyond and they had a knack of fizzing out. But if this turns out to be made, maybe they'll steer away from JJ-Trek and just do something that just happens to be in the Trek universe? That might be good.

However, still a bit wary of anyone emerging from the Secret Hideout eco-system of Trek production.

beauf · 05-03-2021 12:03PM

AMKC wrote: »

Good to hear. Enjoy it. Hope you enjoy all 7 seasons. What other series have you watched with them. Have you watched TOS or TNG with them?

No, none of them were interested.

We watched The Expanse, and one likes some SciFi books, so that was the leader to DS9.

breezy1985 · 05-03-2021 01:23PM

Rawr wrote: »

I'd be inclined to get some benefit of the doubt and hope for the best. This is, if this even got made. There's been plenty of announcements of a movie post-Beyond and they had a knack of fizzing out. But if this turns out to be made, maybe they'll steer away from JJ-Trek and just do something that just happens to be in the Trek universe? That might be good.

However, still a bit wary of anyone emerging from the Secret Hideout eco-system of Trek production.

Ya lots of these tend to fizzle out but another tendency Trek has is to copy whatever Star Wars does so expect desperate attempts to find a Trek "Mandalorian" or "Rogue One"

AMKC · 06-03-2021 10:36PM

beauf wrote: »

No, none of them were interested.

We watched The Expanse, and one likes some SciFi books, so that was the leader to DS9.

Awe that's a pity. I mean like I can understand them not been interested in TOS yet but maybe TNG, Voyager and Enterprise later on maybe when they are teens might interest them and if so they might eventually check out TOS.

GreeBo · 06-03-2021 10:48PM

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pixelburp wrote: »

Takes some surfeit of possessiveness, and an utter absence of self-awareness to rail against a kid's cartoon FFS. To be fair, this is a poison among a lot of fanboys of pop culture these days and not exclusive the Trek: wherein they can't seem to process the idea that not everything is going to explicitly speak to them. Be it the overall age-group, sexuality of main characters or whatever. It's pathetic.

As to the designs? Yeah they're not especially "Trek" in appearance, but I just don't have any interest in kids cartoons in general anyway. I know Clone Wars and the like try to angle the material at all ages, but it just comes down to personal taste. That and I just hatttttte TV CGI cartoons; the animation is always so rubbery and blergh. Again, personal taste, more power to people who enjoy Clone Wars et al.

Honestly, I think in principal it's amazing that Trek will expand into kids cartoons: it's literally going to prepare the ground for ... wait for it ... The Next Generation of Trek fans Not that the angry internet neckbeards will appreciate that - and I'm sure there are already 100s of YouTube videos of idiots like that ranting into their webcam.

Nice virtue signalling rant.

If it has no resemblance to any existing Star Trek then it's not expanding into anything, it's instead a studio using an existing brand to make more money.

People who disagree with you aren't idiots or pathetic by the way, maybe you need to pay more attention when watching Star Trek, you might learn something about attitudes towards others.

GreeBo · 06-03-2021 10:51PM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Indeed... looks very Final Space-y.

The robot basically looks like Kvn with legs.. and the globule/seal thing has a bit of 'Moonpie' to it.

Even the colours (purple!) and design of the backdrop look like a bit of a lift..

I'd be ok with that, I really enjoyed final space!

pixelburp · 07-03-2021 01:28AM

GreeBo wrote: »

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Nice virtue signalling rant.

If it has no resemblance to any existing Star Trek then it's not expanding into anything, it's instead a studio using an existing brand to make more money.

People who disagree with you aren't idiots or pathetic by the way, maybe you need to pay more attention when watching Star Trek, you might learn something about attitudes towards others.

Not sure why you're angry, you taking this personal for some reason?

I have no trouble with people disagreeing with me, don't think myself and Evade here have ever seen eye to eye on this forum as a for instance lol

But some fans ranting about cartoons for kids sight unseen is possessive and the worst aspect of nerd / fan culture. Seen elsewhere not just in Trek. There's literally not a second of footage out there yet the reaction in some corners is ... Yeah. Kinda pathetic reaction for a transparent kids cartoon. And I hate to break it to you, but everything made in the Trek world is for making money - Trek ain't art

But yeah, relax there, watch some Trek yourself

beauf · 07-03-2021 01:45AM

Even having read back a few pages, I have no context for what you're talking about.

We enjoyed final space. But personally I think its a bit OTT gory through much off it. Itchy and Scratchy style. We've started watching Lower Decks, its ok. I think both are more appealing to a younger audience than to me.

But its hard to find stuff you can watch with kids and teens. Any show that has a story or theme that develops over 40min or a season or two, has to better than most of the tiktok soundbytes content (drivel) they are bombarded with by social media. Or the non stop action flicks in movies. Its spam for the brain.

GreeBo · 07-03-2021 04:36AM

pixelburp wrote: »

Not sure why you're angry, you taking this personal for some reason? I have no trouble with people disagreeing with me, don't think myself and Evade here have ever seen eye to eye on this forum as a for instance lol

But some fans ranting about cartoons for kids sight unseen is possessive and the worst aspect of nerd / fan culture. Seen elsewhere not just in Trek. There's literally not a second of footage out there yet the reaction in some corners is ... Yeah. Kinda pathetic reaction for a transparent kids cartoon. And I hate to break it to you, but everything made in the Trek world is for making money - Trek ain't art

But yeah, relax there, watch some Trek yourself

Erm I'm not the angry one here chief! Pop quiz, which one of us is calling people pathetic and idiots?

Inviere · 07-03-2021 06:21AM

The cartoon image definitely seems 'off' in terms of Star Trek, and seems far more fitting of Star Wars or somesuch. That's not to say it won't be good, it could be, we won't know until we watch it. That said, it's safe to say virtually every current Star Trek fan in existence who has been watching since childhood, didn't need a dumbed down cartoon to hook them, so I can see where some of the grievances are coming from in that regard. When written properly, Star Trek can appeal to all audiences.

I was sceptical, and even dismissive of Lower Decks at one point after my first attempt to watch it. I've recently finished it, and thouroughly enjoyed it this time around (I stuck with it past the first three eps, and kinda knew what to expect for the second attempt). There were some genuine lol moments, and it had some great stories. I'd consider it dumbed down Star Trek, but it was handled properly, by people who really 'get' what Star Trek is. I loved how

in one episode it took the absolute piss out of the **** 'cinematic' lighting in modern Star Trek, with the screen haze, piercing bright lights in every scene, etc etc.....also had a good chuckle at Riker's reason for being late to the bridge of the Titan

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So yeah, I'm not automatically optimistic this kids show will be good, but look, even if it's not, it's no loss to us. I'd say one thing, I'd prob quicker watch the kids show than I would the possible Section 31 show.....it's not as if a kids show will be doing any more or less harm than garbage like that would be/will be (which can be safely said without seeing it, because we know how Section 31 was handled in Discovery - awfully.)

breezy1985 · 07-03-2021 07:30AM

GreeBo wrote: »

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Nice virtue signalling rant.

If it has no resemblance to any existing Star Trek then it's not expanding into anything, it's instead a studio using an existing brand to make more money.

People who disagree with you aren't idiots or pathetic by the way, maybe you need to pay more attention when watching Star Trek, you might learn something about attitudes towards others.

You seem to have completely made up your mind off one poster or your mind was made up before you ever even saw the poster.

And Pixelburp never said people who disagree with her are " idiots or pathetic" just that the actions of those sad incel fanboys are

JayRoc · 07-03-2021 07:46AM

pixelburp wrote: »

, but everything made in the Trek world is for making money - Trek ain't art

Why isn't it art? Because it's popular? Because it was made to earn money?

I can guarantee you most of the stuff you do consider to be "art" was created so the artist could make money.

pixelburp · 07-03-2021 09:35AM

GreeBo wrote: »

Erm I'm not the angry one here chief! Pop quiz, which one of us is calling people pathetic and idiots?

Another poster already answered for me but maybe reread what I actually SAID. And who I'm saying it about? You're the one who took aim at me so if you're not angry you sure are strident. I feel sorry, not angry, for the fanboy niche who rage over kids cartoons. Guess what though, I wasn't talking about this forum cos whatever else folks are, they aren't raging neckbeards.

JayRoc wrote: »

Why isn't it art? Because it's popular? Because it was made to earn money?

I can guarantee you most of the stuff you do consider to be "art" was created so the artist could make money.

Greebo made the assertion that Prodigy was some outlier for existing to just make money. That could be said of all Trek. Yes it has often had artistic merit but speculating that Prodigy is the first Trek to exist for money making purposes is naive. CBS/Paramount like money, and aren't making Discovery for the love

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