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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Last 8 Sunday's

    January 10th - 4842
    January 17th - 3231
    January 24th - 1910
    January 31st - 1414
    February 7th - 1024
    February 14th - 788
    February 21st - 679
    February 28th - 612


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Perhaps because the picture is changing? Perhaps because we can start to see the effectiveness of the vaccines in the group that it has been administered to?

    I repeat my question, what good news/positivity exactly did you expect them to report when the **** was hitting the fan? Can you not see how childish such an expectation is?

    Why the aggression? Things are going well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Whats today's 7 day average, versus the last few Sundays?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,769 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Polar101 wrote: »
    Every workplace has that one idiot who comes to work sick "because it's not too bad", and then gets rewarded for being a dedicated worker - while infecting everyone else. I'd love to see them told to go back home.

    They are only idiots if they get paid while on sick leave..

    Those that don't are victims of necessity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Whats today's 7 day average, versus the last few Sundays?
    7 day average is 653, down 17.53% from a week ago. Complete numbers for February below

    Day Month Date Year ROI Cases Weekly 5 Day Av 5 Day % 7 Day Av 7 Day % 14 Day Av 14 Day %
    Monday February 1st 2021 1,062 8,686 1,284.60 -7.22% 1,240.86 -38.52% 1,629.57 -65.95%
    Tuesday February 2nd 2021 879 8,637 1,171.20 -9.34% 1,233.86 -33.84% 1,549.43 -65.93%
    Wednesday February 3rd 2021 1,013 8,315 1,123.00 -11.37% 1,187.86 -30.14% 1,444.07 -65.33%
    Thursday February 4th 2021 1,318 8,187 1,103.80 -13.45% 1,169.57 -23.77% 1,351.93 -65.21%
    Friday February 5th 2021 1,047 7,980 1,063.80 -20.56% 1,140.00 -17.07% 1,257.36 -63.73%
    Saturday February 6th 2021 827 7,393 1,016.80 -20.85% 1,056.14 -19.00% 1,180.00 -63.77%
    Sunday February 7th 2021 1,024 7,170 1,045.80 -10.71% 1,024.29 -20.30% 1,154.71 -59.67%
    Monday February 8th 2021 829 6,937 1,009.00 -10.15% 991.00 -20.14% 1,115.93 -57.23%
    Tuesday February 9th 2021 556 6,614 856.60 -22.40% 944.86 -23.42% 1,089.36 -55.63%
    Wednesday February 10th 2021 1,006 6,607 848.40 -20.25% 943.86 -20.54% 1,065.86 -53.57%
    Thursday February 11th 2021 866 6,155 856.20 -15.79% 879.29 -24.82% 1,024.43 -51.60%
    Friday February 12th 2021 921 6,029 835.60 -20.10% 861.29 -24.45% 1,000.64 -48.85%
    Saturday February 13th 2021 1,078 6,280 885.40 -12.25% 897.14 -15.05% 976.64 -46.53%
    Sunday February 14th 2021 788 6,044 931.80 8.78% 863.43 -15.70% 943.86 -44.65%
    Monday February 15th 2021 821 6,036 894.80 5.47% 862.29 -12.99% 926.64 -43.14%
    Tuesday February 16th 2021 744 6,224 870.40 1.66% 889.14 -5.90% 917.00 -40.82%
    Wednesday February 17th 2021 650 5,868 816.20 -2.32% 838.29 -11.19% 891.07 -38.29%
    Thursday February 18th 2021 901 5,903 780.80 -11.81% 843.29 -4.09% 861.29 -36.29%
    Friday February 19th 2021 763 5,745 775.80 -16.74% 820.71 -4.71% 841.00 -33.11%
    Saturday February 20th 2021 988 5,655 809.20 -9.57% 807.86 -9.95% 852.50 -27.75%
    Sunday February 21st 2021 679 5,546 796.20 -8.52% 792.29 -8.24% 827.86 -28.31%
    Monday February 22nd 2021 686 5,411 803.40 -1.57% 773.00 -10.35% 817.64 -26.73%
    Tuesday February 23rd 2021 575 5,242 738.20 -5.46% 748.86 -15.78% 819.00 -24.82%
    Wednesday February 24th 2021 574 5,166 700.40 -9.72% 738.00 -11.96% 788.14 -26.06%
    Thursday February 25th 2021 613 4,878 625.40 -22.71% 696.86 -17.36% 770.07 -24.83%
    Friday February 26th 2021 776 4,891 644.80 -19.02% 698.71 -14.87% 759.71 -24.08%
    Saturday February 27th 2021 738 4,641 655.20 -18.45% 663.00 -17.93% 735.43 -24.70%
    Sunday February 28th 2021 612 4,574 662.60 -10.24% 653.43 -17.53% 722.86 -23.41%


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,141 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Why the aggression? Things are going well.

    I would describe my posting as aggressive and things are indeed improving.

    I have to admit that I'm getting sick and tired of the uninformed, the ignorant and the impatient taking pot shots at Nphet. I mean, "not positive enough"? Wtf? Their purpose is to advise government, not to make us feel good. Post Christmas the was little to be positive about, but thankfully that's now changing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,072 ✭✭✭jackboy


    User142 wrote: »
    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40235138.html

    ISAG (Zero Covid) in a local Cork paper stating we are looking at a 6 to 8 month lockdown. This is while they simultaneously say if we follow them we will be open by summer.

    They really are an insufferable bunch.

    We are looking at a six to eight month lockdown. We are already two months in and it is looking likely that the level 5 lockdown alone will last 4 months.

    The type of lockdown they are proposing is different, that is why they are talking about a summer opening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,581 ✭✭✭JTMan


    The mental health crisis is getting worse according to stats from the US.

    The scale of the crisis is astounding. Very sad.

    Hopefully when society reopens, especially gyms given their benefit on mental health, these mental health numbers will thereafter start to decline but some people will probably need help for a long time ...

    https://twitter.com/adam_tooze/status/1366087017944252418


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    JTMan wrote: »
    The mental health crisis is getting worse according to stats from the US.

    The scale of the crisis is astounding. Very sad.

    Hopefully when society reopens, especially gyms given their benefit on mental health, these mental health numbers will thereafter start to decline but some people will probably need help for a long time ...

    https://twitter.com/adam_tooze/status/1366087017944252418

    Not discounting it, but isn't there a difference between having symptoms of anxiety / depression and actually having anxiety / depression. We all go through low or anxious periods in our lives, the problem is when it persists or the severity impacts your life adversely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    ... and when you've two extremely panicked 70+ year olds who you live with lapping up everything RTE say.

    I've already had them beg me not to travel abroad for the remainder of 2021, despite every chance of some unlocking of international flights.

    One is getting slowly ill (nothing dreadful), but is refusing to go to the doctors until she is vaccinated. The other needs a hip replacement urgently - again refusing until vaccination.

    My ever collapsing mental health is second place to their needs at the moment - just because there is no other option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,368 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    I would describe my posting as aggressive and things are indeed improving.

    I have to admit that I'm getting sick and tired of the uninformed, the ignorant and the impatient taking pot shots at Nphet. I mean, "not positive enough"? Wtf? Their purpose is to advise government, not to make us feel good. Post Christmas the was little to be positive about, but thankfully that's now changing.

    I get your point but I think you took it out on the wrong guy. Nothing wrong with what he said. The messaging has changed markedly since last week. Figures not that different. I suspect he is correct that Gov and NPHET are making conscious effort to be more positive (or perhaps more open). Up to last week you got the impression positivity was verboten for fear that people would become complacent but it was not working as a policy and risked "losing" the masses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    I would describe my posting as aggressive and things are indeed improving.

    I have to admit that I'm getting sick and tired of the uninformed, the ignorant and the impatient taking pot shots at Nphet. I mean, "not positive enough"? Wtf? Their purpose is to advise government, not to make us feel good. Post Christmas the was little to be positive about, but thankfully that's now changing.

    Why do they hold public press conferences if their job is just to advise government ?

    That ship sailed long ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭frank8211


    ... and when you've two extremely panicked 70+ year olds who you live with lapping up everything RTE say.

    I've already had them beg me not to travel abroad for the remainder of 2021, despite every chance of some unlocking of international flights.

    One is getting slowly ill (nothing dreadful), but is refusing to go to the doctors until she is vaccinated. The other needs a hip replacement urgently - again refusing until vaccination.

    My ever collapsing mental health is second place to their needs at the moment - just because there is no other option.

    I dont blame them. We all have to be sensible and travelling on planes anytime soon would be the height of recklessness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Deusexmachina


    I would describe my posting as aggressive and things are indeed improving.

    I have to admit that I'm getting sick and tired of the uninformed, the ignorant and the impatient taking pot shots at Nphet. I mean, "not positive enough"? Wtf? Their purpose is to advise government, not to make us feel good. Post Christmas the was little to be positive about, but thankfully that's now changing.

    The problem is exactly that - they should only be advising Government, not acting as if they are the Government.

    The channel of communication should be NPHET to Government to Citizens. Not NPHET to Media.

    It is up to Government (God help us) to determine what advice will influence policy. NPHET have no remit outside of epidemiology yet some are acting like they are getting a God complex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    I get your point but I think you took it out on the wrong guy. Nothing wrong with what he said. The messaging has changed markedly since last week. Figures not that different. I suspect he is correct that Gov and NPHET are making conscious effort to be more positive (or perhaps more open). Up to last week you got the impression positivity was verboten for fear that people would become complacent but it was not working as a policy and risked "losing" the masses.

    I agree. There is no doubt that there was a conversation over the last week about positive messaging. NPHET have enlisted behavioural scientists and the dogs on the street know that what was missing last week was the simple concept of ‘hope’.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Deusexmachina


    Reminds me of the rake of economists hired to scare the **** out of us on a daily basis during the recession.
    Watch the book deals for the media lovin scientists at the end of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Reminds me of the rake of economists hired to scare the **** out of us on a daily basis during the recession.
    Watch the book deals for the media lovin scientists at the end of this.

    The economists will be back very soon, dont forget we are in a recession now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,264 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I agree. There is no doubt that there was a conversation over the last week about positive messaging. NPHET have enlisted behavioural scientists and the dogs on the street know that what was missing last week was the simple concept of ‘hope’.

    Agreed . If you give people hope they can give one last push and try to do this for another few weeks
    Give them negativity and no hope many will throw in the towel and say fcuk this
    I am very surprised that well educated people didn’t get that until now


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Agreed . If you give people hope they can give one last push and try to do this for another few weeks
    Give them negativity and no hope many will throw in the towel and say fcuk this
    I am very surprised that well educated people didn’t get that until now

    Can find smart people with very little to no social skills


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    I get your point but I think you took it out on the wrong guy. Nothing wrong with what he said. The messaging has changed markedly since last week. Figures not that different. I suspect he is correct that Gov and NPHET are making conscious effort to be more positive (or perhaps more open). Up to last week you got the impression positivity was verboten for fear that people would become complacent but it was not working as a policy and risked "losing" the masses.

    They've had behavioural scientists since this began. The tone was really positive this week because we got very strong indicators from new York, Israel, the UK and our own residential care setting and health workers that vaccines have an impact on both illness and transmission.

    No doctor is ever going to give someone positivity just for the sake of. Hey you went you ten rounds of chemo you deserve some positive news. That's just not how it works.

    Their job is to describe the situation as they see it. Glynn put it best wherever possible they want to give people hope but it must be a grounded hope based on science. They cannot give false hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Not discounting it, but isn't there a difference between having symptoms of anxiety / depression and actually having anxiety / depression. We all go through low or anxious periods in our lives, the problem is when it persists or the severity impacts your life adversely.

    Yep. These are self reported too so it's extremely limited. If you did these surveys when Take That split or Brazil lost 7 0 to Germany you'd get people self reporting depression symptoms.

    It's really important a proper mental health check is done on the population so the impact on social restrictions can be properly understood. That might even allow us develop mitigation techniques for the next pandemic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Turtwig wrote: »
    They've had behavioural scientists since this began. The tone was really positive this week because we got very strong indicators from new York, Israel, the UK and our own residential care setting and health workers that vaccines have an impact on both illness and transmission.

    No doctor is ever going to give someone positivity just for the sake of. Hey you went you ten rounds of chemo you deserve some positive news. That's just not how it works.

    Their job is to describe the situation as they see it. Glynn put it best wherever possible they want to give people hope but it must be a grounded hope based on science. They cannot give false hope.

    Read Glynn's statement, much more positivity about variants despite very little changing. Their are still lots of unknowns. Glynn did mention the possibility of new variants emerging only a few weeks ago.

    Anyway I think this messaging will help people pull together and the hopefully we can be close to normality in the summer.

    Their may also be news on vaccine roll out that we do not know about yet. Seems to that some EU countries now are confident of vaccination the majority of their population by the ned of June. I hope this is a good sign for us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,368 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Turtwig wrote: »
    They've had behavioural scientists since this began. The tone was really positive this week because we got very strong indicators from new York, Israel, the UK and our own residential care setting and health workers that vaccines have an impact on both illness and transmission.

    No doctor is ever going to give someone positivity just for the sake of. Hey you went you ten rounds of chemo you deserve some positive news. That's just not how it works.

    Their job is to describe the situation as they see it. Glynn put it best wherever possible they want to give people hope but it must be a grounded hope based on science. They cannot give false hope.

    There were plenty positive indicators last week too. It's not simply that the news is better this week than last. The message is clearly being presented differently. The quote today about Ireland having an intelligent, educated population who can be trusted to do the right thing sounds very different to the message up to last week and I agree with the suspicions of those who think it is a line fed straight to Gov and NPHET by behavioural science advisors.

    And that's not a criticism either. If a message needs to be nuanced / presented differently then you do that.

    Lastly no one us talking about making up good news. Clearly there was f all scope to be positive in January.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    It seems to be working too, the mood in here is far better despite very little changing since last week. Better weather I guess has helped. Most posters in here have known for weeks that vaccines are very effective. Don't underestimate the influence messaging by the media and people in charge of this pandemic can have.


  • Posts: 232 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have to admit that I'm getting sick and tired of the uninformed, the ignorant and the impatient taking pot shots at Nphet. I mean, "not positive enough"? Wtf? Their purpose is to advise government, not to make us feel good.

    Perhaps NPHET might advise the elected Government in private rather than through the medium of the Late Late Show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Norway and Finland are now tightening lockdowns. They're literally the only two European regions to not see high excess deaths this winter from COVID. Will be interesting to see if they manage to hold it off for the entire duration of the pandemic, would be very impressive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Hospital figures 8pm

    Total 537 (down from 551 last night)
    ICU 132 (no change)

    A very rare weekend daily drop. Gain of 9 total for the weekend.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,363 ✭✭✭User1998


    I think it will be completely socially unacceptable. As will coughing and sneezing on the Luas or bus

    Are you serious? Coughing and sneezing are natural. What do you expect people to do? Hold their breath? Thankfully coughing and sneezing has already become more acceptable than it was around this time last year. Back then you’d clear your throat and the whole room would take five steps back


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