This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying

unkel · 27-02-2021 12:36pm

KevRossi wrote: »

It's not as bad in real life. I had one in that colour in Germany for a few months, wasn't too keen on it at the beginning but it sort of grew on me.

I like the colour too, remember it from "real cars", it looks different than in the pictures

Nice find and, like my own W201 that I sold last year for a bit over the €3k mark, if you get a well sorted one, they are a joy to own, very relaxing drive, while still easily keeping up with today's traffic. Extremely well made to a standard we will never see again and utterly and totally reliable.

Very underrated classic and if you see what rubbish is posted here regularly for similar money you'd wonder why the hell these aren't worth more :pac:

I guess a steady supply of them from the UK, where there are thousands of them - >30 (but <40) year old have no special benefits over there - so not worth that much meant you could bring them in cheaply, I did so myself with a few of them. But that stream has now dried up...

CoBo55 · 27-02-2021 1:20pm

kadman wrote: »

NCT excuse with covid is BS, as we all know NCT is happening as usual

I got absolutely annihilated on here for saying that. I agree with you 100%

kadman · 27-02-2021 2:09pm

CoBo55 wrote: »

I got absolutely annihilated on here for saying that. I agree with you 100%

Sorry to hear that, but I am way too grisly to take any notice of people trying to annihilate me for telling the truth.:P

Plus the fact the truth is you got one extension of 4 months on your NCT date, and thats it.

A good classic should have no fear of doing an NCT, its the cheapest recognizable document of a cars health, and whats not to like about that.:)

unkel · 27-02-2021 2:18pm

CoBo55 wrote: »

I got absolutely annihilated on here for saying that.

Not by me.

Unfortunately there are far too many classic car owners in Ireland who don't care about their safety or that of others and who couldn't bother getting their car NCTd

The €1500 fine and 5 penalty points and confiscation of cars really should be enforced on people who are taking the p1ss driving around for years with an untested car

kadman · 27-02-2021 3:58pm

| got plenty of grief on some forums for saying classics should have some form of
testing on brakes and steering and tyres at the very least.

Its a bit strange really that you can have a 50 year old car on the road without any sort of
inspection from anybody. And i make no apology to anyone for holding that viewpoint.

I've seen some cars at shows that should have been in a skip, and they were driven there:eek:

Arthur Daley · 27-02-2021 4:11pm

I'd say people's issue with the NCT is some of the inconsistency applied and petty issues that lead to failures, and in some cases serviceable vehicles being scrapped. It is infuriating, a bit like referring inconsistencies in football matches.

Basic checks on brakes, steering and tyres should be acceptable to everyone, and is a good idea.

CoBo55 · 27-02-2021 4:18pm

kadman wrote: »

| got plenty of grief on some forums for saying classics should have some form of
testing on brakes and steering and tyres at the very least.

Its a bit strange really that you can have a 50 year old car on the road without any sort of
inspection from anybody. And i make no apology to anyone for holding that viewpoint.

I've seen some cars at shows that should have been in a skip, and they were driven there:eek:

Lord stop, some of the junk at those shows would make your blood run cold, not helped by filler merchant car restorers!! You'd be terrified driving the yoke to a test centre never mind getting it tested. Bikes and tractors were no better.

oceanman · 27-02-2021 4:18pm

kadman wrote: »

| got plenty of grief on some forums for saying classics should have some form of
testing on brakes and steering and tyres at the very least.

Its a bit strange really that you can have a 50 year old car on the road without any sort of
inspection from anybody. And i make no apology to anyone for holding that viewpoint.

I've seen some cars at shows that should have been in a skip, and they were driven there:eek:

a good many people with classics, especially expensive ones wouldnt trust putting them through the nct...cant say i blame them to be honest.

CoBo55 · 27-02-2021 4:24pm

oceanman wrote: »

a good many people with classics, especially expensive ones wouldnt trust putting them through the nct...cant say i blame them to be honest.

Rubbish absolute rubbish. I used to drive wedding cars from the 1920's to the early 60's and there was never a bother getting them tested one required the decelleromoter for the brake test which needed to be stated beforehand, it had a propshaft driven brake booster system.

Seweryn · 27-02-2021 4:28pm

oceanman wrote: »

a good many people with classics, especially expensive ones wouldnt trust putting them through the nct...cant say i blame them to be honest.

With some cars I would have a problem handing the keys over to an NCT guy that would then lift the car the same way as ever regardless of where and if he finds the lifting points for my car. And if a damage to the sills or the floor is done you have no come back after unfortunately. Some people are happy with that, some are not. Those that are not are usually able to look after their cars, so they are in top condition anyway.

oceanman · 27-02-2021 4:28pm

CoBo55 wrote: »

Rubbish absolute rubbish. I used to drive wedding cars from the 1920's to the early 60's and there was never a bother getting them tested one required the decelleromoter for the brake test which needed to be stated beforehand, it had a propshaft driven brake booster system.

each to their own i guess....

PsychoPete · 27-02-2021 6:56pm

oceanman wrote: »

a good many people with classics, especially expensive ones wouldnt trust putting them through the nct...cant say i blame them to be honest.

A neighbour dropped down a mk2 golf that needed a couple of bits, once it was on the lift you could see about 20 indentations underneath it where the tester was poking it for corrosion. Very excessive carry on

Duke O Smiley · 27-02-2021 7:43pm

PsychoPete wrote: »

A neighbour dropped down a mk2 golf that needed a couple of bits, once it was on the lift you could see about 20 indentations underneath it where the tester was poking it for corrosion. Very excessive carry on

I’m not someone who really bothers with NCT’ing a classic, but on the few occasions that I have done this has been my experience of the test. They seem desperate to fail older stuff unless they’re immaculately presented cars.

kadman · 27-02-2021 7:56pm

Classic testing NCT with a rolling road to test the brakes and steering and tyres. No lift needed.Basic safety test.

Why you yourself would not even have to get out of your precious:p

kadman · 27-02-2021 7:57pm

PsychoPete wrote: »

A neighbour dropped down a mk2 golf that needed a couple of bits, once it was on the lift you could see about 20 indentations underneath it where the tester was poking it for corrosion. Very excessive carry on

Never heard of this, was he poking or hammering??

PsychoPete · 27-02-2021 7:59pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

I’m not someone who really bothers with NCT’ing a classic, but on the few occasions that I have done this has been my experience of the test. They seem desperate to fail older stuff unless they’re immaculately presented cars.

For me when it comes to buying a car especially a classic, nct isn't that important. Nct isn't comprehensive enough to say if a car really is healthy or not, it gives you a fair idea but there can be so many potential issue not picked up. Just because a car has an nct doesn't mean it isn't a heap of sh!t

slipperyox · 27-02-2021 8:07pm

Remember, motorcycles are not tested at all.

Not sure law on 3 wheeler cars

Duke O Smiley · 27-02-2021 8:08pm

kadman wrote: »

Never heard of this, was he poking or hammering??

A decent size screwdriver is the weapon of choice for poking at the North Point centre anyway

Duke O Smiley · 27-02-2021 8:39pm

slipperyox wrote: »

Remember, motorcycles are not tested at all.

Not sure law on 3 wheeler cars

3 wheelers, the likes of Reliants etc, are not tested.

kadman · 27-02-2021 8:40pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

A decent size screwdriver is the weapon of choice for poking at the North Point centre anyway

Whats your suggested method for checking for corrosion/

Duke O Smiley · 27-02-2021 8:43pm

kadman wrote: »

Whats your suggested method for checking for corrosion/

No issue at all with their method, just saying that - in my experience - they can be very aggressive with the poking and prodding at my local centre.

Arthur Daley · 27-02-2021 9:05pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

A decent size screwdriver is the weapon of choice for poking at the North Point centre anyway

Looking for a trace element of rust on brake pipes

Duke O Smiley · 27-02-2021 9:30pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/rolls-royce-silver-spirit-original-97680-mile-rr/27374220

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A very cheap Roller, €6950

w124man · 27-02-2021 9:33pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

A very cheap Roller

Is there such a thing?

unkel · 27-02-2021 9:35pm

Out of NCT many years. Is that dealer gonna put it through the test?

oceanman · 27-02-2021 10:06pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/triumph-stag/27372819

RobAMerc · 27-02-2021 10:14pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

They seem desperate to fail older stuff unless they’re immaculately presented cars.

one of my cars failed on a loose battery (despite it passing with it like that multiple times before ) - which I fixed myself to what I thought was a reasonable standard

When it was being retested I saw him gritting his teeth and really having a go at it - the asshat shook it so violently he broke the negative cable connection to the bodywork. D*ckhead - there was no need for that

It had also failed first time on the lights aim being slightly off.
it passed on the 2nd time, but I saw the prick go back and over it a few times I am sure trying to fail it.

RobAMerc · 27-02-2021 10:16pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/rolls-royce-silver-spirit-original-97680-mile-rr/27374220

A very cheap Roller, €6950

I am fairly sure I test drove that car in Greystones last year. At the time there was a crack in the exhaust manifold and am issue with the brakes but its a huge amount of car for the money.

Duke O Smiley · 27-02-2021 10:20pm

Ah. I remember that now.

I wonder if any improvements have been made on it in the meantime

boosabum · 27-02-2021 10:22pm

Say this today and seems reasonable for the condition

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-slc-450-235hp-/26557667?campaign=3[PHP][/PHP]

This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying

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