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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,256 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    seamus wrote: »
    The right to protest ends at the point where you put anyone else at risk.

    This rules that all forms of public assembly when you're in the middle of a public health emergency like this one.

    Anyone with half a brain cell understands this.

    Other forms of protest are not being prevented, such as striking, provided they don't involve putting the public at risk.

    The Nazi Party who organised this march and several others have been getting away with unashamedly putting the public at risk for too long. Its good to see the Gardai finally taking some action.

    The Nazi Party?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Good news, Positivity dropped 2.1% in public health laboratories. That seems significant for only one week.

    https://twitter.com/President_MU/status/1365739961161560068


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    The absolute state of them.

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  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The absolute state of them.

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    Your man with the shaved head and leather jacket is surely the FSB handler


  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seamus wrote: »
    The right to protest ends at the point where you put anyone else at risk.

    This rules that all forms of public assembly when you're in the middle of a public health emergency like this one.

    Anyone with half a brain cell understands this.

    Other forms of protest are not being prevented, such as striking, provided they don't involve putting the public at risk.

    The Nazi Party who organised this march and several others have been getting away with unashamedly putting the public at risk for too long. Its good to see the Gardai finally taking some action.

    Sorry I might agree with you on many things, but I can't agree with this. You cannot caveat the right to protest, its just far too open for abuse. You either have a right to protest or you don't. Once you introduce reasons as to why its not allowed, governments can shut down the protests they don't want. Its a pretty essential part of being a functioning democracy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    The absolute state of them.

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    There is a suspicious amount of recent haircuts in that photo :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,309 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    The absolute state of them.

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    Why does one lad have a mask over his eyebrows?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Why does one lad have a mask over his eyebrows?
    Perhaps he can 'see through' the whole mask hoax. Perhaps he's an idiot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    There is a suspicious amount of recent haircuts in that photo :)


    barbers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Why does one lad have a mask over his eyebrows?

    Probably to cover his Neanderthal brow ridge.

    Bunch of skunks.

    Those photos will be embarrassing in work for them Monday morning. Oh wait....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,058 ✭✭✭Polar101


    seamus wrote: »
    The right to protest ends at the point where you put anyone else at risk.

    I wouldn't entirely agree with that - there should always be a right to protest.

    Peaceful protests can be very effective. Violent riots, on the other hand, are a great way to make sure your message won't be heard.

    This crowd was just looking to create trouble, I guess there wasn't anything better to do on a Saturday afternoon.


  • Posts: 232 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AdamD wrote: »
    Sorry I might agree with you on many things, but I can't agree with this. You cannot caveat the right to protest, its just far too open for abuse. You either have a right to protest or you don't. Once you introduce reasons as to why its not allowed, governments can shut down the protests they don't want. Its a pretty essential part of being a functioning democracy.

    It's scary quite how quick some are to throw their rights, and the rights of their fellow citizens, away.

    "You can't protest against Government policy. It's Government policy that you can't" is a dangerous road to go down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭SeaMermaid


    b0nk1e wrote: »
    It's almost like it's not "clear" at all what needs to happen, when, for which restrictions to be lifted, isn't it?

    You insist the roadmap to reopening is clear. So tell me, when will the ban on my next door neighbour operating his business be lifted? It's a very simple question which could be answered either with a date, or a set of metrics - if such an answer existed.

    It's not up to me to provide you with a date for reopening. The message has been very clear to date. The message is the cases have to come down so that it gives the virus less transmission chances. The reopening will be started with schools and it will be a slow reopening so that it can be monitored.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    SeaMermaid wrote: »
    It's not up to me to provide you with a date for reopening. The message has been very clear to date. The message is the cases have to come down so that it gives the virus less transmission chances. The reopening will be started with schools and it will be a slow reopening so that it can be monitored.

    So there is no road map essentially other than schools reopening?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    this was not a protest as anyone with half a brain can see. it was the usual shower of perma-unemployed nationalist & right wing losers that like to throw stuff at the gardai everytime anything of any note is going on in dublin.


  • Posts: 232 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    SeaMermaid wrote: »
    It's not up to me to provide you with a date for reopening. The message has been very clear to date. The message is the cases have to come down so that it gives the virus less transmission chances. The reopening will be started with schools and it will be a slow reopening so that it can be monitored.

    You said:
    There is a very clear route out of the restrictions. It's not the governments fault if some people are too dim to catch onto it and understand it.

    I'm asking you to tell us what that route is.

    You can't.

    Because what you said was an untruth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Stheno wrote: »
    So there is no road map essentially other than schools reopening?

    There is a clear roadmap, it's just us lesser mortals are too dim to understand it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭SeaMermaid


    b0nk1e wrote: »
    You said:



    I'm asking you to tell us what that route is.

    You can't.

    Because what you said was an untruth.

    The route is to allow the schools to go back with a phased reopening. Other activities and movements follows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,331 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    it's level 5 until may, then maybe level 3-4 until september. No restaurants, no pubs, no cinema.. nothing...

    living with covid, there you go.. enjoy.

    I guess you'll have to go back to the Czech Republic so? Oh wait....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭Bluwave


    The government need to realise and realise quickly that a lot of their restrictions are complete bollocks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,693 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Bluwave wrote: »
    The government need to realise and realise quickly that a lot of their restrictions are complete bollocks.

    They’ve had since June 2020 and didn’t realise

    I wouldn’t hold my breath that they will suddenly realise the sunk costs and start to follow the science the rest of the globe does around mitigation measures


  • Posts: 232 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    SeaMermaid wrote: »
    The route is to allow the schools to go back with a phased reopening. Other activities and movements follows.

    Jesus wept.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭rodders999


    More than a few Gemma-roids in attendance there today I would imagine.

    Is it that the vaccine is a means to unleash mass genocide on the global population or just that it will cause a load of 90 year olds to go into a Microsoft spending frenzy trying to outbid each other on eBay for retro copies of Windows ‘95 that’s the big cod of Covid?

    It’s hard to keep up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    The absolute state of them.

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    It's amazing how the photos and videos make a mockery of the assertion from usual suspects on the restrictions thread that these "peaceful protestors" are from "all dfferent backgrounds of society"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    votecounts wrote: »
    not so simple when the ban on evictions is linked to it.

    Why is it linked to it, though? This is the problem with government messaging - they're the government! They can change the law at the stroke of a pen and a couple of days of debate in the Oireachtas if they want to. So if the 5km restrictions are currently inextricably linked to the ban on evictions in the legislation, change the f*cking legislation and move on!

    It's the same as Leo suggesting that if we introduced a travel ban, we'd "have" to keep it until after Christmas 2021. Why? We "have" to keep it until the day our representatives decide to overturn it in the aforementioned Oireachtas. No earlier, no later. It's that simple.

    Government with a majority hiding behind legislation to get out of doing sh!t is infuriating. They never hide behind legislation when they're doing sh!t we don't want them to do, FFS - they just change it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Looking at the countries with the most new cases (yes, I know that's a biased selection, but at the same time, they have for the most part been the biggest contributors throughout), it seems that the downward trend is no longer persisting worldwide as hoped. The 7-day average in most of those countries is increasing again, after a promising period of decline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    froog wrote: »
    this was not a protest as anyone with half a brain can see. it was the usual shower of perma-unemployed nationalist & right wing losers that like to throw stuff at the gardai everytime anything of any note is going on in dublin.

    There's plenty of left wing losers in there too.

    All the idiots get together for these things no matter where they come from on the spectrum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭Bluwave


    They’ve had since June 2020 and didn’t realise

    I wouldn’t hold my breath that they will suddenly realise the sunk costs and start to follow the science the rest of the globe does around mitigation measures



    How golf courses and outdoor tennis can’t open and insist on a few strict measures is beyond me, only two players and no mixing transportation.

    The 5km rule is complete nonsense and takes policing resources away from where they are needed. Imagine stopping a cyclist out for a spin FFS.

    Construction is still flat out despite the ban, so clearly construction isn’t an issue.

    This government is losing the focus of more and more people by the day, they need to make some changes and they can improve the restrictions without risking increasing cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,693 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Bluwave wrote: »
    How golf courses and outdoor tennis can’t open and insist on a few strict measures is beyond me, only two players and no mixing transportation.

    The 5km rule is complete nonsense and takes policing resources away from where they are needed. Imagine stopping a cyclist out for a spin FFS.

    Construction is still flat out despite the ban, so clearly construction isn’t an issue.

    This government is losing the focus of more and more people by the day, they need to make some changes and they can improve the restrictions without risking increasing cases.

    I think even abolishing the 5km rule would certainly be a major boost for the next few months.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    Bluwave wrote: »
    How golf courses and outdoor tennis can’t open and insist on a few strict measures is beyond me, only two players and no mixing transportation.

    The 5km rule is complete nonsense and takes policing resources away from where they are needed. Imagine stopping a cyclist out for a spin FFS.

    Construction is still flat out despite the ban, so clearly construction isn’t an issue.

    This government is losing the focus of more and more people by the day, they need to make some changes and they can improve the restrictions without risking increasing cases.


    Agreed. There is a lot of 70 plus people out there and their only outlet and excercise was golf once a week.

    Even if the goverment had allowed bubbled players, or single household, or even just singles, there would really be minimal risk.


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