WandaVision - Disney+ (Spoilers)

Lavdogg · 26-02-2021 09:49AM

Interesting episode..keep an eye out for mid credits again

voldejoie · 26-02-2021 10:18AM

Having to wait another whole week for the next episode is torture! Really enjoyed this one but it flew by. My niece was going nuts when

Agatha called Wanda the Scarlet Witch!

ilovesmybrick · 26-02-2021 10:50AM

Also there's another post-credit scene! I'm really not sure how they're going to wrap this up with only one more episode, but I can't wait to see how they do it!

salmocab · 26-02-2021 10:53AM

I notice in the credits Debra jo Rupp gets a reasonably high billing. I feel she’s some way involved in things.

GSPfan · 26-02-2021 11:17AM

Well i think we are completely caught up with what is going on with that episode.

Does anyone feel like this is a retcon series now? They are basically saying she had the power all along and the mind stone juiced it up. I think Wanda is going to be the first X gene mutant revealed in the MCU. They are basically reinventing her as The Scarlet Witch character who is a mutant.

That’s what it seems like to me.

shawki · 26-02-2021 11:32AM

Next week would want to be a solid 90 Minutes to wrap everything up.

Nothing worse than a rushed finale.

Don't know what kind of future SWORD could have in the MCU, it will be difficult to see them as the good guys after this episode.

Agent Coulson · 26-02-2021 11:55AM

Looking like Hayward is the real puppet master to me.

Penn · 26-02-2021 12:02PM

Real shame they couldn't get Aaron Taylor Johnson back for a few scenes, even for these flashback scenes (keep Fietro for the previous few episodes, but have the real Pietro in a few flashbacks).

And so it really was just Wanda who created Westview. Agatha just sensed the power and piggybacked on it to find out what was going on and test Wanda.

Hard to see where things will end up, but it's been a great series. I've really enjoyed it thoughout.

horgan_p · 26-02-2021 12:02PM

shawki wrote: »

Can we start a placing bets on who this Luke Skywalker level cameo is going to be?

My guess is Dolph Lundgren's Punisher 5,000/1

Paul Bettany to win troll of the year 2021.

"There is one character that has not been revealed. And it is very exciting. It is an actor I've longed to work with all of my life. We have some amazing scenes together and I think the chemistry between us is extraordinary and fireworks on set."

Answer :

Himself

Ridley · 26-02-2021 12:55PM

Penn wrote: »

Real shame they couldn't get Aaron Taylor Johnson back for a few scenes, even for these flashback scenes (keep Fietro for the previous few episodes, but have the real Pietro in a few flashbacks).

Do we know that they couldn't? Wouldn't be surprised if Wanda gets to say goodbye to him and Vision in the end and we get two Young Avengers™ so it's not all loss for her.

CastorTroy · 26-02-2021 01:57PM

So fake Pietro was just that. Not X-Men Pietro.
Was waiting for Agnes to say where she got him or his image from

GSPfan · 26-02-2021 02:14PM

CastorTroy wrote: »

So fake Pietro was just that. Not X-Men Pietro.
Was waiting for Agnes to say where she got him or his image from

I wouldn’t rule out something happening there. It might be

explained later down the line as some sort of subconscious link to a multiverse and that’s why he manifested in that form. If it’s just a wink to the audience as some sort of meta casting joke then it’s a waste.

Dodge · 26-02-2021 02:49PM

Back story helpful for people like me who had no idea who she was or where she came from

Tied up some questions from the show too

Lithium93_ · 26-02-2021 03:18PM

I might be reading too much into this, but the shows Twitter account, given how it's phrased, seems to hint that there'll be 10 episodes..

https://twitter.com/wandavision/status/1365300592462073863

tbahh · 26-02-2021 03:33PM

Lithium93_ wrote: »

I might be reading too much into this, but the shows Twitter account, given how it's phrased, seems to hint that there'll be 10 episodes..

It seems right. Sounds like 9th episode might have been broken up into 2 parts?

After this episode, I felt like one more wouldn't really be enough to wrap it all up.

Still have to find out how Agnes got called to Westview. Someone said it on here last week but I'd say she will be given her own Disney+ TV series now to explore her witchcraft origins - and also due to that darn catchy theme tune song. Maybe call it Agatha (Almost) All Along, though. Will probably become an antihero character like others in MCU.

Fantastic episode going into backstory and now that Wanda has been given her new title, the X-Men will no doubt be joining soon.

Lithium93_ · 26-02-2021 03:38PM

horgan_p wrote: »

Paul Bettany to win troll of the year 2021.

"There is one character that has not been revealed. And it is very exciting. It is an actor I've longed to work with all of my life. We have some amazing scenes together and I think the chemistry between us is extraordinary and fireworks on set."

Answer :
Himself

A master class in trolling, IF it turns out to be the case...

Penn · 26-02-2021 03:43PM

GSPfan wrote: »

I wouldn’t rule out something happening there. It might be
explained later down the line as some sort of subconscious link to a multiverse and that’s why he manifested in that form. If it’s just a wink to the audience as some sort of meta casting joke then it’s a waste.

I'd much prefer if it's just a nod to the audience. I've said it before but they can't bring in the Fox X-men. Everything about them is so muddled with different actors in the same roles, a huge amount of retconning and convulted storylines, plus there's only so much more you could get out of some of the actors at this stage. Even this fake version of Pietro was a teenager in the 70's when he first appeared in Days of Future Past. It makes no sense that he'd be a multiverse version of Wanda's brother.

I thought it was a genius move to have fake Pietro be the actor from the Fox X-men films for the recast joke and as fan-service to the audience, but to try tie it in any logical way into the MCU really just isn't worth it.

When it comes to the X-Men in the MCU, Marvel would be much better off wiping the slate clean and starting afresh. Hell even Deadpool largely ignored the Fox films with just maybe the odd reference or small cameo appearance, but went with completely different versions of Colossus & Juggernaught.

Lithium93_ · 26-02-2021 03:57PM

GSPfan wrote: »

Well i think we are completely caught up with what is going on with that episode.
Does anyone feel like this is a retcon series now? They are basically saying she had the power all along and the mind stone juiced it up. I think Wanda is going to be the first X gene mutant revealed in the MCU. They are basically reinventing her as The Scarlet Witch character who is a mutant.

That’s what it seems like to me.

Well given the time Pietro & Wanda were introduced into the MCU in The Winter Soldier mid credits and Strucker referring to them both as Miracles, they found a workaround to Marvel not having certain rights at the time, and now they'll be able to straight up say

yeah she's a mutant, has been all along.

And just like you said,

the mind stone simply juiced up her X-Gene

horgan_p · 26-02-2021 04:37PM

Lithium93_ wrote: »

A master class in trolling, IF it turns out to be the case...

Mid credits scene

Lithium93_ · 26-02-2021 04:49PM

horgan_p wrote: »

Mid credits scene

I know this, but I still think there's one more ace up the sleeve/TA-DA/Holy **** moment coming.

But IF that does turn out to be what Bettany was talking about, then tip of the hat to him for reeling in everyone who thought otherwise, hook, line and sinker

Brief_Lives · 26-02-2021 04:59PM

Hold on, what was that power source at the end? a stark bomb?

Gbear · 26-02-2021 05:06PM

Brief_Lives wrote: »

Hold on, what was that power source at the end? a stark bomb?

The drone they sent in.

It gobbled some of Wanda's energy.

GSPfan · 26-02-2021 05:07PM

Penn wrote: »

When it comes to the X-Men in the MCU, Marvel would be much better off wiping the slate clean and starting afresh.

You’ll get no argument from me on that one. I think Quicksilver is unique in that the Fox-verse has used the same character so i can allow a bizarre link to that actor, but if they attempt to get Hugh Jackman, Jennifer Lawrence, Fassbender, McAvoy or any of them to crossover I’ll be completely against it. Jennifer Lawrence is the most overrated thing in Hollywood.

I’m hoping to see a long term build up of the mutant storyline without them rushing straight to an X-Men team up. But if

Wanda has the x gene and it was in the MCU all this time then there could be a Wakanda style reveal where they’ve been sneakily there all along off camera and they were just really good at hiding.

Lithium93_ · 26-02-2021 05:13PM

GSPfan wrote: »

You’ll get no argument from me on that one. I think Quicksilver is unique in that the Fox-verse has used the same character so i can allow a bizarre link to that actor, but if they attempt to get Hugh Jackman, Jennifer Lawrence, Fassbender, McAvoy or any of them to crossover I’ll be completely against it. Jennifer Lawrence is the most overrated thing in Hollywood.

I’m hoping to see a long term build up of the mutant storyline without them rushing straight to an X-Men team up. But if
Wanda has the x gene and it was in the MCU all this time then there could be a Wakanda style reveal where they’ve been sneakily there all along off camera and they were just really good at hiding.

Well you might get your wish for a long term build up to X-Men, if anything Marvel have shown they won't rush, just look at 2012 Avengers as an example, and how they slowly came together through Phase 1, then the big team up movie and beyond.

That and with everything under one umbrella with Feige at the helm.

The White Wolf · 26-02-2021 06:01PM

If fake Pietro goes nowhere as this episode suggests then what a waste of time that was, especially given they're going down the multiverse route anyway. I'd see the casting of Evans as less of a clever nod but more of a pointless wind up that wasn't needed.

Hopefully Harkness has only partly got her story right about what Wanda is. I'd be astounded if Evan Peters signed up for.....that.

Gbear · 26-02-2021 06:42PM

Pietro still presumably had super speed.

Agatha said she mind-controlled him. Didn't mention giving him super-powers, I don't think.

Maybe it was all illusion, but she seemed to indicate that what Wanda was doing was well beyond her capabilities, so whipping up a super-speed spell for a regular dude seems a stretch.

There's clearly more to come from him, as we saw him with Captain blue eyes whatsherface... Lietenant Trouble, when she was nosing around Agatha's gaff.

Zardoz · 26-02-2021 08:07PM

The best episode of the series by a distance.

They could have made 2 episodes out of that content and cut one or 2 of the earlier goofball sitcom episodes.

pjohnson · 26-02-2021 08:13PM

Trolling fans of X-Men was an interesting tactic for Marvel to immediately use.

Penn wrote: »

I'd much prefer if it's just a nod to the audience. I've said it before but they can't bring in the Fox X-men. Everything about them is so muddled with different actors in the same roles, a huge amount of retconning and convulted storylines, plus there's only so much more you could get out of some of the actors at this stage. Even this fake version of Pietro was a teenager in the 70's when he first appeared in Days of Future Past. It makes no sense that he'd be a multiverse version of Wanda's brother.

I thought it was a genius move to have fake Pietro be the actor from the Fox X-men films for the recast joke and as fan-service to the audience, but to try tie it in any logical way into the MCU really just isn't worth it.

When it comes to the X-Men in the MCU, Marvel would be much better off wiping the slate clean and starting afresh. Hell even Deadpool largely ignored the Fox films with just maybe the odd reference or small cameo appearance, but went with completely different versions of Colossus & Juggernaught.

I dont think you will like multiverse much if you are expecting all timelines to be seamless...theres time fudges in the MCU if people want to get into technicalities.

joficeduns1 · 26-02-2021 08:23PM

The emotional beats hit in this episode were phenomenal.

The White Wolf · 26-02-2021 08:44PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Trolling fans of X-Men was an interesting tactic for Marvel to immediately use..

I will hold out hope for next week. The more I think about it sure, Wanda's power origin makes sense if she's "just" a witch, but it doesn't answer how Pietro/Peter was granted his.

If I had to guess, Agatha has got some things right but not everything.

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