Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

PaulieC · 26-02-2021 05:09PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

This is gas

https://twitter.com/DublinPedaller/status/1365307117880639490

There is a house on strand road with a big sign saying "strand road two way not D4 throughway" and a link to a website which I thinks is called sandymountcycle4all.ie. What could it all mean?

tomasrojo · 26-02-2021 05:12PM

It is bad if you're Mannix Flynn.

It seems clear enough though that, mixed in with some weak and bad-faith arguments, this is probably closer to the heart of the objections: that once it goes in they won't be able to get rid of it.

Larbre34 · 26-02-2021 05:26PM

tomasrojo wrote: »

It is bad if you're Mannix Flynn.

It seems clear enough though that, mixed in with some weak and bad-faith arguments, this is probably closer to the heart of the objections: that once it goes in they won't be able to get rid of it.

I wouldn't deny that at all.

In setting no metrics for success, actually no metrics at all, through their shambolic process, the CC set it up as a fait accompli. Only a fool would buy that this was ever going to be a trial.

Peregrine · 26-02-2021 05:29PM

PaulieC wrote: »

There is a house on strand road with a big sign saying "strand road two way not D4 throughway" and a link to a website which I thinks is called sandymountcycle4all.ie. What could it all mean?

Does the sign have planning permission? Was there an environmental impact assessment done?

thebaz · 26-02-2021 05:33PM

Having been following this , well at a distance , why is Mannix involved ?

I thought he lived in city centre , or does he now live in Sandymount ?

tomasrojo · 26-02-2021 05:36PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

I wouldn't deny that at all.

In setting no metrics for success, actually no metrics at all, through their shambolic process, the CC set it up as a fait accompli. Only a fool would buy that this was ever going to be a trial.

I've some sympathy for that position; I mean for any theoretical permanent change to an area. So far though, the feedback to most of these schemes around Dublin have been net-positive. At least as far as I'm aware. I don't really know what DCC had planned to measure success or failure of this scheme, but they've used surveys in the aftermath of other schemes:
https://irishcycle.com/2018/06/16/bollards-in-drumcondra-stopping-rat-running-should-be-kept-says-local-residents-and-report/

tomasrojo · 26-02-2021 05:45PM

thebaz wrote: »

Having been following this , well at a distance , why is Mannix involved ?

I thought he lived in city centre , or does he now live in Sandymount ?

I suppose it is a Dublin City Council area, and he's a Dublin City councillor. But his interest does seem to arise from his general dislike of cycling infrastructure, and maybe cyclists.

I mean, this was quite a stretch, when talking about a rave in Oliver Bond flats:

Cllr Flynn said it wasn't up to gardai to police last night's scenes as it took place in a Dublin City Council controlled housing estate. He said: "This is not something new. Dublin City Council reneged and betrayed and didn’t do their care of duty to the residents here. They refused to turn up last night to deal with this issue. It’s their estate - they’re responsible for the management of that estate 24 hours a day - not An Garda Siochana. An Garda Siochana have enough things to do. And the guards didn’t want to exacerbate the situation. And remember - Dublin City Council, which gets a billion euros of your money, just seems to be obsessed about putting cycle tracks down on the city when they’re unnecessary.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/dublin-street-party-oliver-bond-18967696

daragh_ · 26-02-2021 05:57PM

https://sandymountcycleforall.ie

Enlightening to say the least.

"The current DCC version of the Sandymount Cycle track (supported by the Green Party) will deliver an overall citywide increase in NOx levels of pollution in Dublin. This increased volume of pollution will not disperse as easily or as quickly as the the current lower volumes of NOx."

MUST. KEEP. CARS. MOVING. OR. EVERYONE. WILL. DIE.

tomasrojo · 26-02-2021 06:13PM

This sort of thing turns up if you look for #NOx7688 on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/ForStrand/status/1358895548623904771

They seem to be claiming that 7688 diverted motorised vehicles would mostly cram into the backstreets of Sandydmount, but would also mostly disperse around the city, raising NOx everywhere. Claire Byrne, Green councillor, points out that air-quality monitoring is part of the trial.

ted1 · 26-02-2021 06:36PM

daragh_ wrote: »

https://sandymountcycleforall.ie

Enlightening to say the least.

"The current DCC version of the Sandymount Cycle track (supported by the Green Party) will deliver an overall citywide increase in NOx levels of pollution in Dublin. This increased volume of pollution will not disperse as easily or as quickly as the the current lower volumes of NOx."

MUST. KEEP. CARS. MOVING. OR. EVERYONE. WILL. DIE.

If they are upset about the NOX from cars. We better not tell them about the 3 power plants in ringsend...

magicbastarder · 26-02-2021 07:06PM

how is the cycle path intended to ferry people further on into the city centre? ringsend can be a bit messy traffic wise.

tomasrojo · 26-02-2021 07:13PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

how is the cycle path intended to ferry people further on into the city centre? ringsend can be a bit messy traffic wise.

I presume as part of the greater network that Mannix Flynn must surely support! (Based on mannixflynn.com)

thebaz · 26-02-2021 07:22PM

tomasrojo wrote: »

But his interest does seem to arise from his general dislike of cycling infrastructure, and maybe cyclists.

actually quite surprised he is so anti cyclists - I know he can be opinionated, but never struck me as a keen motorist - maybe he drives around city centre a lot - always thought of him a walker.

tomasrojo · 26-02-2021 07:30PM

thebaz wrote: »

actually quite surprised he is so anti cyclists - I know he can be opinionated, but never struck me as a keen motorist - maybe he drives around city centre a lot - always thought of him a walker.

Yeah, I have no idea why he keeps coming back to this subject. I mean, that Oliver Bond quote was like a text-book idée fixe.

Fighting Tao · 26-02-2021 07:41PM

STC supporters showing their class:
https://twitter.com/hazechu/status/1365376014793265152?s=21

And from a few days ago:
https://twitter.com/alandub13/status/1364168434473439236?s=21

Larbre34 · 26-02-2021 08:00PM

Bike W@nkers gave me the laugh I needed that day, but cowardly anonymous abuse like the Mayor received is despicable, the actions of a pathetic moron.

First Up · 26-02-2021 08:12PM

Nothing wrong with more cycle paths but the Sandymount Strand thing was more about messing up motorists than anything else. I'm happy it has been stopped but it shouldn't have needed the Courts to do it.

Loose canons like Keegan need their wings clipped.

tomasrojo · 26-02-2021 08:18PM

First Up wrote: »

Loose canons like Keegan need their wings clipped.

Fighting Tao · 26-02-2021 08:21PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

Bike W@nkers gave me the laugh I needed that day, but cowardly anonymous abuse like the Mayor received is despicable, the actions of a pathetic moron.

You come across as a really nice person. Yes that was sarcasm. How come you aren’t up in arms about the cost of relaying a section of concrete to fix it like you were about other costs earlier?

Grassey · 26-02-2021 08:23PM

Fighting Tao wrote:

You come across as a really nice person. Yes that was sarcasm. How come you arenâ€™t up in arms about the cost of relaying a section of concrete to fix it like you were about other costs earlier?

It'll probably have a plaque donated by STC over the weekend to commemorate the war. Sandymounts very own V-Day!

Larbre34 · 26-02-2021 08:27PM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

You come across as a really nice person. Yes that was sarcasm. How come you aren’t up in arms about the cost of relaying a section of concrete to fix it like you were about other costs earlier?

Perhaps it should be left as a monument to Keegan's failed folly. Either that or bolt in a set of Sheffield stands over it, so that only when its empty of bikes can the inscription clearly be read. That would be poetic wouldn't it?

No you're right, I'm not in the mood. See ye in 9 weeks.

Lewotsil · 26-02-2021 08:46PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

Bike W@nkers gave me the laugh I needed that day, but cowardly anonymous abuse like the Mayor received is despicable, the actions of a pathetic moron.

Bike W@nkers ...........Mask slipping there @Labre34........stay classy

magicbastarder · 26-02-2021 08:48PM

you can't **** while cycling anyway.

eh, so someone told me.

tomasrojo · 26-02-2021 08:55PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

you can't **** while cycling anyway.

eh, so someone told me.

I won't post it here, but if you search
rollerskating from:youngvulgarian
on Twitter, you get a surprising anecdote

cletus · 26-02-2021 10:54PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

you can't **** while cycling anyway.

eh, so someone told me.

I thought it was about **** a bike...

ted1 · 26-02-2021 11:36PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

Perhaps it should be left as a monument to Keegan's failed folly. Either that or bolt in a set of Sheffield stands over it, so that only when its empty of bikes can the inscription clearly be read. That would be poetic wouldn't it?

No you're right, I'm not in the mood. See ye in 9 weeks.

Nothing has failed

Cosmos7 · 27-02-2021 12:00AM

Diesel Dickheads

Cosmos7 · 27-02-2021 12:22AM

Wouldn't it be great if all decisions for road realignments were determined after a bit of a trial to see if it works out ok or not.

Cosmos7 · 27-02-2021 12:32AM

Petrol hell hole

Cosmos7 · 27-02-2021 01:00AM

Whilst out on the bike in strong winds I was one time almost blown off

Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

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