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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #1532
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    wadacrack wrote: »
    More people being tested could maybe because of sinus symptoms. More humid conditions this week.

    I know it's not usually the season for it but my hay-fever is rightly playing up this week


  • #1533
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    plodder wrote: »
    Yes, obviously a virus that has the same pandemic effect on humans as this one and is resistant to vaccines, since that is why we've all been cooped up for the last year.

    As I said (merely repeating what experts have said) is that viable virus mutations tend to make small changes in the viruses make-up not large ones. So, it stands to reason that the chances of a single mutation rendering vaccines completely ineffective is very low.
    No, I'd agree that hopefully the chances of mutations rendering the vaccine ineffective is low. My issue was with the suggestion that it's more likely that an (actual) new problematic virus will arise than for covid to mutate problematically, given that covid currently has 20+ million hosts with oodles of multiplication in each one to potentially mutate in, and it has already made the important jump to being transmissible between humans.
    So I was just wondering at the calculations being used for that.


  • #1534
    pauldry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,515 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Do they keep testing lots of people until they get a good number for the "news"?

    Like next week will it be 25,000 tests?


  • #1535
    Diabhalta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    They say jump, you say how high

    This is gonna keep going on forever. They will let us breathe for the summer a bit and then again in lockdown in September because now we have a new strain of covid and we don't have the vaccine and it's in development etc. etc. Just absolute garbage at this stage.

    People should just open the shops and pubs and we should all move on. It's another summer just completely ruined.


    *mod snip - no need for that link here*


  • #1536
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    robbiezero wrote: »
    Media need to do better on these variants. They really aren't scary enough and its because they are announcing them from places that aren't that scary. California, South Africa, England etc. Might as well be wines.

    Your villain needs to be from Russia or East Germany or the Middle East and give it a good scary name like Ivan Drago or Hans Gruber etc.
    Up your game media.

    I’ve a nice New Zealand Marlborough variant chilling in the fridge for tonight


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  • #1537
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,295 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    They say jump, you say how high

    This is gonna keep going on forever. They will let us breathe for the summer a bit and then again in lockdown in September because now we have a new strain of covid and we don't have the vaccine and it's in development etc. etc. Just absolute garbage at this stage.

    People should just open the shops and pubs and we should all move on. It's another summer just completely ruined.

    *mod snip*

    So your answer is to ignore it. That will get you far in life.


  • #1538
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 832 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is outside construction/landscaping permitted at present. Seen a neighbour with workers in. Wondering cos I am waiting to get my drive done and thought I wouldn't get an opportunity till april


  • #1539
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    pauldry wrote: »
    Do they keep testing lots of people until they get a good number for the "news"?

    Like next week will it be 25,000 tests?

    A few days ago a guy was complaining that they were doing too many tests finding more asymptomatic cases to frighten people.

    I commented that his point was silly and one could equally argue it from the opposite direction, trying to reduce the positivity level, to reassure people.

    Both arguments are silly.


  • #1540
    Diabhalta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Is outside construction/landscaping permitted at present. Seen a neighbour with workers in. Wondering cos I am waiting to get my drive done and thought I wouldn't get an opportunity till april

    giphy.gif


  • #1541
    Diabhalta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    That reason is likely that it's a load of paranoid conspiracy shite

    you think so? Lockdowns will go on forever if people (like you) will allow it.


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  • #1542
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    you think so? Lockdowns will go on forever if people (like you) will allow it.

    Why would lockdowns go on forever if the health emergency has gone away?


  • #1543
    Diabhalta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Why would lockdowns go on forever if the health emergency has gone away?

    it's not gonna go away. You'll see.


  • #1544
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    it's not gonna go away. You'll see.

    Oh yeah, it's all part of the great reset sure.


  • #1545
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    you think so? Lockdowns will go on forever if people (like you) will allow it.

    People like me allowing it, give it a rest. :rolleyes:

    Anyone with the ability to apply critical thinking knows this is a massive issue and cherrypicking some facts, peppering it with opinion presented as fact, means nothing.

    If our government, or any government, had an easy answer to end this, they would apply it and end it.

    Its the same old atomic arguments in isolation not considering the bigger picture. This lad is talking about a post-human state whereby smart masks are the start of the control and it will eventually be genetic modification, held at needle point, etc...

    But I guess maybe I just havent woken up yet, eh?


  • #1546
    Diabhalta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Is this some sort of a joke??? :confused:



    "I know that I have to wear a mask when in retail outlets and on public transport, but should I wear a mask when out for a walk – especially in a busy park or on a busy footpath?"

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/how-many-masks-should-you-wear-while-out-and-about-this-weekend-1.4493907


  • #1547
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    Is this some sort of a joke??? :confused:



    "I know that I have to wear a mask when in retail outlets and on public transport, but should I wear a mask when out for a walk – especially in a busy park or on a busy footpath?"

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/how-many-masks-should-you-wear-while-out-and-about-this-weekend-1.4493907


    Clickbait, for you and easily outraged people just like you :)


  • #1548
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Claire Byrne is shameless

    Going on about Irish Times poll about people wanting yk get back to normal after vulnerable are vaccinated

    Asking "is that dangerous"
    Has anyone got a link to that survey or at least a summary for those of us too cheap to pay for an IT subscription?


  • #1549
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    Is this some sort of a joke??? :confused:



    "I know that I have to wear a mask when in retail outlets and on public transport, but should I wear a mask when out for a walk – especially in a busy park or on a busy footpath?"

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/how-many-masks-should-you-wear-while-out-and-about-this-weekend-1.4493907
    The title alone should have told you to move on past it.


  • #1550
    Diabhalta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Clickbait, for you and easily outraged people just like you :)

    I'm not outraged, first I laughed at it, then I was like wtf really? ...and then I moved on.

    Funniest part is they are serious about it.


  • #1551
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,264 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    Is this some sort of a joke??? :confused:



    "I know that I have to wear a mask when in retail outlets and on public transport, but should I wear a mask when out for a walk – especially in a busy park or on a busy footpath?"

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/how-many-masks-should-you-wear-while-out-and-about-this-weekend-1.4493907

    Sorry , why is that a joke ?
    We walk in a busy park with joggers etc running past . We wear masks if its busy , you don’t have to if you don’t want to


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  • #1552
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    I'm not outraged, first I laughed at it, then I was like wtf really? ...and then I moved on.

    Funniest part is they are serious about it.

    You seem pretty upset by it anyway, enough to post it.
    Diabhalta wrote: »
    because the air moves a lot outside.. when was the last time you got flu? You get it usually indoors when spending time with somebody who has it. Or when you use computer after them and then pick your nose etc.

    No, you won't get it outdoors. If you think you do you're paranoid.


    You cannot guarantee that, that's the thing about science - noone can guarantee anything until unequivocally proven - that's why they can't say the vaccine stops transmission - it does, but they don't have definitive proof (yet ;) )


  • #1553
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    So your answer is to ignore it. That will get you far in life.

    In fairness it has gotten plenty of people, plenty far in this country unfortunately.


  • #1554
    Diabhalta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    last year cops turning away people from beaches because they are crowded... really? like REALLY???

    I was in a crowded pub abroad reading it on my phone, just laughing and shaking my head at the same time. Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. Is that gonna be like this again this summer? Definitely.


  • #1555
    Diabhalta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    You seem pretty upset by it anyway, enough to post it.




    You cannot guarantee that, that's the thing about science - noone can guarantee anything until unequivocally proven - that's why they can't say the vaccine stops transmission - it does, but they don't have definitive proof (yet ;) )

    they don't even know themselves what it can or can't do.. I don't want it, I just want everyone to stfu about it and move on.

    Everyone has had enough of this, I can see it everywhere.. at work, when I talk to friends and family.. Sick of it, absolutely sick of it and everyone is just bored to death.


  • #1556
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,826 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    3rd person I know after dying with covid today.
    All 3 came around bit a week before dying.
    Is this what's happening with most who die?


  • #1557
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    they don't even know themselves what it can or can't do.. I don't want it, I just want everyone to stfu about it and move on.

    Everyone has had enough of this, I can see it everywhere.. at work, when I talk to friends and family.. Sick of it, absolutely sick of it and everyone is just bored to death.

    Absolutely sick to the teeth of it here too, so go on, stick your head in the ground or up your arse or wherever you want -and pretend it's gone. Whatever your coping mechanism requires.


    The rest of us will persevere here in the real world.


  • #1558
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    last year cops turning away people from beaches because they are crowded... really? like REALLY???

    I was in a crowded pub abroad reading it on my phone, just laughing and shaking my head at the same time. Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. Is that gonna be like this again this summer? Definitely.

    Fair play hope you enjoyed laughing at people doing their best so that schools could go back and businesses reopen. Each to their own.





    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Kum8OUTuk


  • #1559
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    You seem pretty upset by it anyway, enough to post it.




    You cannot guarantee that, that's the thing about science - noone can guarantee anything until unequivocally proven - that's why they can't say the vaccine stops transmission - it does, but they don't have definitive proof (yet ;) )
    It is an appalling piece of cut and paste journalism, guaranteed to frighten the life out of some people.


  • #1560
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 832 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    giphy.gif

    Well that clears it up


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  • #1561
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    is_that_so wrote: »
    It is an appalling piece of cut and paste journalism, guaranteed to frighten the life out of some people.

    Aye, gripe is with the Irish times there though - not the national response to a public health emergency


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