Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

penny piper wrote: »

A new case of a B 1.525k variant has been detected in Ireland along with 5 other countries...Dr.Cillian de Gasgun reported this evening....problem with this variant is it can have a potential impact on vaccines effectiveness...

Really is a pity they didn't close the airports for anything other than the utmost essentials.

Sure no surprise when this sort of thing is going on https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda%C3%AD-visit-ballymaloe-cookery-school-over-classes-during-lockdown-1.4495012?mode=amp

Stateofyou wrote: »

So argue against their findings, if you can.

Every bit of research starts with an objective, an hypothesis. It's 365 pages long, obviously has some teeth to it.

Instead of moaning about it's focus which clearly you don't want to like, maybe keep an open mind and read it first, then use your critical thinking skills. I believe in you.

Any credible research starts with an open mind, this one fails badly on that front. It's a pity though because it appears to be quite well referenced.

I'm not going to argue against their findings; I don't know whether they are correct or incorrect. I'm simply commenting on the fact that the report does not appear to be balanced. If you wish to argue otherwise, feel free to do so.

Stateofyou wrote: »

You can't say anything about this research or what it "appears" like unless you've actually read it. Which you haven't. Feel free to do so.

Oh, so are you saying that it's balanced research?

It's funny that you seem to be so defensive about it

Stateofyou wrote: »

I'm not saying anything about it specifically, you are. Without even reading it.

You're awfully defensive of it's mere existence and the reasons why you won't read it. Those reasons being assumptions about a report you haven't even read. Logical.

So for now you're not actually disputing my assertion that it appears that the authors knew their conclusions before beginning the report? You're going to wait until you read it before deciding on that. Fair enough

Stateofyou wrote: »

Give over. Read it or not I don't give a flying F what you think about it at the end of the day. And I'll do what I want. Christ.

Eh, you were the one who originally replied to me!! We'll leave it there

i presume if you dont teach leaving certs you dont go near school building and continue to teach remotely? i dont have leaving cert mondays so i presume i dont have any business going in to the building?

Dickie10 wrote: »

i presume if you dont teach leaving certs you dont go near school building and continue to teach remotely? i dont have leaving cert mondays so i presume i dont have any business going in to the building?

Correct

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Depends on the schools

I know in my dads primary school all teachers are in next Monday

Teachers can remote teach from their classrooms says the principal

Now there is a micro manager who doesn't trust their staff. Unnecessary movement of people just so they can exert control over them. Shows a very poor leader.

greenbicycle wrote: »

Not to add to their anxiety, but schools opening will impact the children whose parents choose to keep them home as online learning will end once school buildings open up so home schooling will be in the hands of parents alone without guidance from teachers.

There are hundreds of children being home schooled everyday pre covid in Ireland
I think they were generally doing fine

Deleted User wrote: »

Our youngests teacher has being remote teaching from the classroom throughout

That was allowed this time to facilitate those whose home situation didn't allow them to teach from there.

I know teachers who chose to do so since Christmas for a variety of reasons, main one being that broadband at home wasn't up to scratch for what they wanted to do.

Last school closure we were excluded from and not allowed enter the physical buildings.

Deleted User wrote: »

I thought this vector sh*te was long over. Kids do not transmit the virus any more than adults, and all the evidence is they transmit less in younger age group, yet we think it is fine to describe them as "vectors".

Also, ask the question as to why it is rampant in universities. Is it a) Students going to class or b) Students going to house parties

hmm....but both my children are only young secondary school teachers and some of the LC they have are 18/19... ... my daughter was in uni @17 ..... I'd classs LC students of that age as the same as first year in uni and would have no doubt be doing the same things....house parties ..meeting up etc..
I don't think LC students should be going back at all....I think they should be continuing with remote education....btw my my children teach other classes so will be back next monday ...

Stateofyou wrote: »

Is this a serious comment? Obviously choosing to homeschool was a conscious choice made, everyone involved has the aptitude and appetite for it, the means, the time, the space, etc. Otherwise, lesson plans for parents will be suddenly pulled, it's very difficult & time consuming if not impossible for a random Joe to know what to do and where to get resources from. How to follow a curriculum or whatever the other methods of homeschooling are. It's not a simple thing. I know because we seriously considered it last year. And finally, the kids will know their friends are back but not them and it probably has an added element of sadness and frustration or worse.

It's clear that this is the crux of the issue from your posts. You don't want your children back, but are aware of the issues that this will cause for you and your family so as a result don't want any other children back either.

It's really unfair that homeschooling isn't an option for everyone, I get that, I really do. But it's just as unfair that I don't have a private plane and a house in the Maldives. I just don't expect the government to somehow provide or pay for my wishes.

Stateofyou wrote: »

It's a serious step you're trying to be blasé and dismissive of.

Kind of like the differences between "dying to get rid of" and "eased burden".

SusanC10 wrote: »

I still believe that Parents should have a choice to continue with remote learning even if some of the Class have returned to in-person learning.
Supported by the DES.
This choice has been available for family and friends in the US. And yes, these are public schools.

I think we've had this conversation before but the public school system in Ireland and the US are wildly different. The public schools in the US are funded according to what the school district is allocated- which hangs massively on the overall income of people in the area. An area of high unemployment and deprivation will receive far far less than a middle class area. It's likely that your family live in ( and no doubt chose to live in!) areas with better schools because people do that, they move to the best school district that they can afford once they have a family. In Ireland all children are supposedly treated equally, so every school has the same per capita funding. What they choose to, or have to spend that on, is a different matter.

jrosen wrote: »

Your not comparing like with like. The systems are vastly different in the US and Ireland. Having lived and educated my children in the US for some time I know how it works.
I dont disagree with the idea in theory. But imo its a total waste of money and resources for what will be a limited period of time and limited benefit.

I don't know if it's a total waste of money and honestly with the way the world is going I think it's time to properly jump on the bandwagon with elements of remote teaching/ learning. It's just the inequality in the US is absolutely not something that should be recreated in Ireland. The resources should be better and properly utilised, that's all.