Mitsubishi Outlander 2022

80sDiesel · 23-02-2021 1:01am #1

Really digging the look of the new outlander

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hurikane · 23-02-2021 1:02am

Is it for sale here? Thought they had pulled out of Europe.

80sDiesel · 23-02-2021 1:07am

hurikane wrote: »

Is it for sale here? Thought they had pulled out of Europe.

Yeah they pulled out of Europe. Only option would be to import one from Japan. Based on the new Nissan Xtrail platform so parts wouldn’t be too much of an issue.

hurikane · 23-02-2021 1:41am

Nice car in fairness

ba_barabus · 23-02-2021 10:02am

Looks like a Citroen C5 Aircross and a Sassyong Koronda had an ugly love child

colm_mcm · 23-02-2021 10:18am

I just don’t get Mitsubishi styling, which means it’s either really bad or really good.
I’m leaning towards really bad.

ba_barabus · 23-02-2021 10:56am

colm_mcm wrote: »

I just don’t get Mitsubishi styling, which means it’s either really bad or really good.
I’m leaning towards really bad.

I really don't kind their styling in general, I like the ASX for Christ's sake. I think they're actually on the verge of making good cars now but at the cost of selling them in Europe as there's no money to be made here.

AMKC · 23-02-2021 11:48am

ba_barabus wrote: »

Looks like a Citroen C5 Aircross and a Sassyong Koronda had an ugly love child

Both them cars and this new Mitsubishi Outlander are much better styled and classier than any dull as dishwasher VAG product.
Such a pity that the new Outlander is not coming here. I hope a load of them are imported from Japan so we can have something cool and unique on our roads instead of all the VW Audi garbage.

colm_mcm · 23-02-2021 12:31pm

AMKC wrote: »

Both them cars and this new Mitsubishi Outlander are much better styled and classier than any dull as dishwasher VAG product.
Such a pity that the new Outlander is not coming here. I hope a load of them are imported from Japan so we can have something cool and unique on our roads instead of all the VW Audi garbage.

You really like the Eclipse Cross and the SsangYong Korrando as well though

AMKC · 23-02-2021 12:37pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

You really like the Eclipse Cross and the SsangYong Korrando as well though

Ye the Eclipse Cross is a breath of fresh air and a great looker with a great interior just a pity they had no diesel and Hyprid version of it here and it might have done better.
Believe it or not I actually prefer the Korrando the was out before the current model it had more style inside before it revamp and I will admit the dash in the current one is a bit strange but I still think it's a good car and the 1.6 diesel can tow 2 tonnes.

Atlantic Dawn · 23-02-2021 12:57pm

Nissan as 34% owners of Mitsubishi should sell a rebadged version of it in Europe, the phev version when that arrives.

sumo12 · 23-02-2021 1:45pm

Marmite. I don't like it

ba_barabus · 23-02-2021 1:46pm

AMKC wrote: »

Both them cars and this new Mitsubishi Outlander are much better styled and classier than any dull as dishwasher VAG product.
Such a pity that the new Outlander is not coming here. I hope a load of them are imported from Japan so we can have something cool and unique on our roads instead of all the VW Audi garbage.

Oh I never said they weren't, if it was bland as fook I'd have said it was a VAG off spring.

colm_mcm · 23-02-2021 8:02pm

AMKC wrote: »

Ye the Eclipse Cross is a breath of fresh air and a great looker with a great interior just a pity they had no diesel and Hyprid version of it here and it might have done better. .

It could run on water and people still wouldn’t buy it.

AMKC · 23-02-2021 8:59pm

hurikane wrote: »

Is it for sale here? Thought they had pulled out of Europe.

Some hope that they might stay yet,

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry-news/mitsubishi-could-restart-european-sales-report-suggests

Really hope it happens.

ba_barabus · 23-02-2021 11:42pm

AMKC wrote: »

Some hope that they might stay yet,

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry-news/mitsubishi-could-restart-european-sales-report-suggests

Really hope it happens.

Sounds like it'll be for LHD markets only

road_high · 24-02-2021 12:35am

AMKC wrote: »

Some hope that they might stay yet,

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry-news/mitsubishi-could-restart-european-sales-report-suggests

Really hope it happens.

Yes I read something lately and thought it kind of lukewarm re their pull out. It was like as if they weren’t completely pulling the plug on Europe to the words of “at this time”. Mitsubishi was a great make once, they still have merit as a brand I feel with the Outlander, Phev and of course the L200 areas where they are still strong. The more choice we all have the better as far as I’m concerned

AMKC · 24-02-2021 11:42am

road_high wrote: »

Yes I read something lately and thought it kind of lukewarm re their pull out. It was like as if they weren’t completely pulling the plug on Europe to the words of “at this time”. Mitsubishi was a great make once, they still have merit as a brand I feel with the Outlander, Phev and of course the L200 areas where they are still strong. The more choice we all have the better as far as I’m concerned

Yep the same here.

LasersGoPewPew · 24-02-2021 10:25pm

I think the new outlander looks amazing. I would definitely buy it if I was in the market for a jeep. It's leaps and bounds ahead of its competitors imo.

nsnoefc1878 · 24-02-2021 10:39pm

AMKC wrote: »

Both them cars and this new Mitsubishi Outlander are much better styled and classier than any dull as dishwasher VAG product.
Such a pity that the new Outlander is not coming here. I hope a load of them are imported from Japan so we can have something cool and unique on our roads instead of all the VW Audi garbage.

Garbage? Have s day off.

nsnoefc1878 · 24-02-2021 10:44pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Nissan as 34% owners of Mitsubishi should sell a rebadged version of it in Europe, the phev version when that arrives.

They'll be selling the ariya in Europe, they've decided mitsubishi will cover the Japan and Asian market

80sDiesel · 24-02-2021 11:51pm

nsnoefc1878 wrote: »

They'll be selling the ariya in Europe, they've decided mitsubishi will cover the Japan and Asian market

Nissan only own 30% or so of Mitsubishi. It was Mitsubishi who called quits. I think they may reconsider though.

A simple customising tweak to the headlights makes it ever more striking

freddieot · 25-02-2021 11:02am

Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe in all black it would look oaky but I think this version looks terrible. It's a good design in general but I just can't accept that anyone could deliberately design the front to look like that.

colm_mcm · 25-02-2021 11:44am

I don’t think the people who designed the front had any involvement in the rest of it.

AMKC · 25-02-2021 10:05pm

nsnoefc1878 wrote: »

Garbage? Have s day off.

Ye ok I was been a bit harsh there. Not garbage just boring cars then.

Leonard Hofstadter · 25-02-2021 10:12pm

nsnoefc1878 wrote: »

They'll be selling the ariya in Europe, they've decided mitsubishi will cover the Japan and Asian market

That's a Nissan milk float on stilts, though isn't it?

Nissan aren't pulling out of Europe.

colm_mcm · 25-02-2021 10:15pm

Leonard Hofstadter wrote: »

That's a Nissan milk float on stilts, though isn't it?

Nissan aren't pulling out of Europe.

The Ariya looks great.

IrishZeus · 25-02-2021 11:57pm

Will the 2022 Pathfinder from Nissan be available in Europe/Ireland?

road_high · 10-03-2021 2:06pm

As we predicted- Mitsubishi to stay in Europe
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/352852/mitsubishi-back-europe-new-renault-deal%3famp

Bit of a mess for their dealers- left hand drive only it spirals though

colm_mcm · 10-03-2021 4:19pm

Have most of their dealers started selling MG now?

ba_barabus · 10-03-2021 5:51pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Have most of their dealers started selling MG now?

In Ireland

AMKC · 10-03-2021 6:31pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Have most of their dealers started selling MG now?

My local Mitsubishi dealer used to just sell them then they started selling Kia's as well so a good move there and about a year ago or maybe it was 2 years they just rebranded as Kia only dealers.

IrishZeus · 10-03-2021 8:24pm

Will we get the new Outlander then?

colm_mcm · 10-03-2021 9:42pm

IrishZeus wrote: »

Will we get the new Outlander then?

They’re def pulling out of the uk anyway

https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/manufacturer-news/2020/09/01/mitsubishi-gives-vehicle-stock-outlook-after-fleet-guarantee

punisher5112 · 10-03-2021 9:45pm

Couldn't see them staying here unless they're doing a rappers job on it where they retire and come back a year later or less....

They'd want to be bringing some smashers to the table as they've been so bland and hardly anyone bought anything in their name.

colm_mcm · 10-03-2021 9:46pm

Bet they regret the 8 year warranty now

ToxicPaddy · 10-03-2021 10:17pm

I haven't really liked a Mitsubishi since the 90s Galant but I have to say I do like that new Outlander.

Leonard Hofstadter · 11-03-2021 12:16am

Mitsubishi used to make some really interesting cars; Galant VR4, pioneered GDI technology that's used in almost every petrol car these days (even though in Mitsubishis it was an absolute disaster), the Sigma V6, the Starion with trick four wheel steering, the Pajero, MIVEC, the FTO with the V6 that could rev to what was it 8000 rpm, and how could we not forget all the various Lancer Evos over the years, it always used to amuse me the way they were badged as FQ (you don't need to be a genius to figure out what it referred to). The Colt and Lancer were strong sellers back in the day, as was the (ironically named) Carisma and the Space Star and Space Wagon were also popular in their time (even though the Space Wagon was a horrible MPV to travel in). There was even the quirky Space Runner.

That was all so long ago and they've long since stopped selling anything interesting, though the Outlander did pioneer the plug-in concept in a family SUV I suppose.

I guess with Frank Keane now importing MGs and being on trend with electric SUVs (even if putting an MG badge on an electric SUV is a travesty given that marque's history of sports cars, but no matter), that business has probably moved on (literally and figuratively) from their association with Misubishis anyway.

road_high · 12-03-2021 4:31pm

What was wrong with the Mitsubishi GDI engines? They never seemed to take off and it was around that point in the late 90s Mitsubishi started to get into trouble. They genuinely had a good name in the late 80s/90s for quality and reliable technology. Of course people will argue they were not as good as Honda or Toyota but they were well up the resale and respected ranks

colm_mcm · 12-03-2021 5:07pm

Normal engines have petrol coming in through the valves mixed with air, GDI engines have the petrol directly injected into the cylinder.
So the petrol would clean off the carbon deposits in a normal MPI engine, but not on a GDI.

The GDI engine was 1.8 minimum as well, they were still selling SOHC 12 valve 1.3 engines as their entry level.

I think apart from the financial crisis in the 90s which really affected their ability to develop new models as well as they might, they just missed the mark, exactly as they’re doing today with half baked designs.

Leonard Hofstadter · 12-03-2021 10:30pm

The petrol here at the time wasn't that good (there was no such thing as low sulphur fuel back in those days) which exacerbated the design flaw of direct injection petrols (the valves don't get 'washed' like they do in a traditional petrol engine - although some direct injection engines also used traditional port injection - such as V6 Toyota/Lexus engines), which also meant that the performance and mpg improvements that they were able to get in JDM cars never really materialised here. In Japan the same engine was rated at 140 bhp, here it was 123 bhp because of the higher RON rating in petrol over there.

Modern direct injection engines can still suffer from carbon build up but it's nowhere near as common as it used to be because things have rather moved on since this engine first saw the light of day 25 years ago plus we use low sulphur fuel nowadays. That said direct injection petrol engines never sound as nice as traditional engines, they produce more NOx than an otherwise identical port injected petrol and they also produce particulates like a diesel - whereas a traditional petrol produces no particulates whatsoever. What they do manage is to come a lot closer to a diesel for fuel consumption while still delivering significant improvements in both particulates and NOx.

colm_mcm · 12-03-2021 10:46pm

The direct injection Avensis 2.0 engine was noticeably louder than the 1.8 as well.

tele2020 · 29-03-2021 2:24pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

They’re def pulling out of the uk anyway

https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/manufacturer-news/2020/09/01/mitsubishi-gives-vehicle-stock-outlook-after-fleet-guarantee

and Ireland

IrishZeus · 02-08-2021 9:57am

Any update on whether the new Outlander will be for sale in Ireland? For what I’ve seen, Mitsubishi will now remain in Europe, but not in the UK/Ireland markets?

Mitsubishi Outlander 2022

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