Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01

Starkystark · 24-02-2021 02:37PM

zeebre12 wrote: »

Why don't 3rd-6th class teachers have to return to school also when SNAs/SET for them classes have to? Or are they to support JI-2nd class also in school? Why not all staff back then? There doesn't seem to be any talk at all about this ridiculous decision on the news or online?

I have a feeling - it’s to either reduce numbers in a class so take a spill or be a stand in if a teacher is out. So frustrating.

Stateofyou · 24-02-2021 02:43PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

i assumed we where all remote learning so that the unions and department could get better measures into place as part of an actual plan to return to schools, turned out, as usual nothing was done.

Chopper Dave wrote: »

Separately I see that the UK Government has approved a £700m fund to ensure students can catch up on lost learning. This includes summer classes/lessons for secondary schools, language development, additional funding for disadvantaged schools, tutorials, etc.

It's been described as inadequate but at least it's being considered. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-extra-cash-pledged-for-pupil-catch-up-programme-and-summer-schools-12227107

km79 wrote: »

They also cancelled the equivalent of their LC
Ours is still running

Ray Donovan wrote: »

And the fact that some members of NPHET have business dealings in the procurement of PCR tests.

WTF!!

Starkystark wrote: »

I have a feeling - it’s to either reduce numbers in a class so take a spill or be a stand in if a teacher is out. So frustrating.

#winning ?

Locotastic · 24-02-2021 03:11PM

Ray Donovan wrote: »

And the fact that some members of NPHET have business dealings in the procurement of PCR tests.

Really?? If this is true well then that's nuts, total conflict of interest.

I thought the rapid tests would be handy for around Xmas for the likes of restaurants etc, I know they aren't that accurate but better than nothing.

zeebre12 · 24-02-2021 03:18PM

Starkystark wrote: »

I have a feeling - it’s to either reduce numbers in a class so take a spill or be a stand in if a teacher is out. So frustrating.

So I don't engage with my own students online I usually take out throughout the school day?

24-02-2021 03:22PM

LittleBrick wrote: »

Oh please, the only "fringe groups" who have been "protesting" in the middle of this GLOBAL PANDEMIC are anti-vaxxing, COVID denying, Bill Gates blaming, "New World Order" spouting idiots.

Well in fairness, the words of Bill are a little worrying,

https://www.bitchute.com/video/VOC6gtrP3jwg/

Coneygree · 24-02-2021 03:26PM

zeebre12 wrote: »

So I don't engage with my own students online I usually take out throughout the school day?

Sure, they won't be in school so presumably you'll just have to do your teaching from home in the school building. This makes no sense to me, but none of this plan makes any sense. Numbers are several times higher than what they were in September, with more contagious variants present in the community and no further safety precautions are in place. They even had the cheek to mention ventilation as if it was some new piece of advice.

yrreg0850 · 24-02-2021 03:45PM

Chopper Dave wrote: »

Separately I see that the UK Government has approved a £700m fund to ensure students can catch up on lost learning. This includes summer classes/lessons for secondary schools, language development, additional funding for disadvantaged schools, tutorials, etc.

It's been described as inadequate but at least it's being considered. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-extra-cash-pledged-for-pupil-catch-up-programme-and-summer-schools-12227107

Do you not realize summer holidays are untouchable ,

24-02-2021 04:30PM

Locotastic wrote: »

Really?? If this is true well then that's nuts, total conflict of interest.

I thought the rapid tests would be handy for around Xmas for the likes of restaurants etc, I know they aren't that accurate but better than nothing.

I think this idea comes from the suggestion that Cillian de Gascun is the director of the NVRL, who have a contract with the government for testing. Now, this suggestion assumes that the NVRL are some sort of private, for profit outfit, when in fact is is part of the UCD department of Medicine, and the vast bulk of testing is not actually done by the NVRL. In other words, its nothing.

penny piper · 24-02-2021 04:30PM

Chopper Dave wrote: »

Separately I see that the UK Government has approved a £700m fund to ensure students can catch up on lost learning. This includes summer classes/lessons for secondary schools, language development, additional funding for disadvantaged schools, tutorials, etc.

It's been described as inadequate but at least it's being considered. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-extra-cash-pledged-for-pupil-catch-up-programme-and-summer-schools-12227107

All this comparison with the Uk and Ireland is pointless....
The Irish Government will not invest in education
and to be honest with the way the vaccination programme is progressing here...we most likely will be in another lockdown.....

combat14 · 24-02-2021 05:14PM

Foley: Burden on all society to ensure schools reopen

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1198944/

lets hope the burden wont be that society is closed all summer as a result of her decision

24-02-2021 05:34PM

combat14 wrote: »

Foley: Burden on all society to ensure schools reopen

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1198944/

lets hope the burden wont be that society is closed all summer as a result of her decision

Why would that be the case when 80% of the adult population will have had a highly effective vaccine?

The cases in HCW are already showing the impact

Theboinkmaster · 24-02-2021 05:41PM

combat14 wrote: »

lets hope the burden wont be that society is closed all summer as a result of her decision

Society certainly will not be closed all summer WTF.

Summer will be worlds apart from where we are now - some people don't seem to understand vaccination as well as weather/seasonal impacts.

Once over 60s and anyone under that with health conditions get their vaccination by April/May that will fix 98% of hospital admissions.

Stateofyou · 24-02-2021 05:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think this idea comes from the suggestion that Cillian de Gascun is the director of the NVRL, who have a contract with the government for testing. Now, this suggestion assumes that the NVRL are some sort of private, for profit outfit, when in fact is is part of the UCD department of Medicine, and the vast bulk of testing is not actually done by the NVRL. In other words, its nothing.

So it's a nothingburger, they're just totally unwilling to consider more robust safety measures because of ineptitude? Not sure what explanation is left.

Icyseanfitz · 24-02-2021 05:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why would that be the case when 80% of the adult population will have had a highly effective vaccine?

The cases in HCW are already showing the impact

Do you really and honestly think we will have 80% of the population vaccinated before summer

Theboinkmaster · 24-02-2021 05:49PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Do you really and honestly think we will have 80% of the population vaccinated before summer

Yes I do. 5m people, 1m are kids leaves 4m to vaccinate with at least first shot.

we will be getting 1m doses per month from April onwards.

Leo said end of June not summer - so 1m per month in April, May and June plus whatever is done in Jan-Mar.

So yes 4m or 80% is well achievable.

Nothing is guaranteed but that's based on best estimates of supply including likely approval of J&J.

24-02-2021 05:50PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Do you really and honestly think we will have 80% of the population vaccinated before summer

Yes

Icyseanfitz · 24-02-2021 05:54PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes

Cool, so when do teachers and SNAs get their vaccines? Should be real soon right :pac:

penny piper · 24-02-2021 06:10PM

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

Yes I do. 5m people, 1m are kids leaves 4m to vaccinate with at least first shot.

we will be getting 1m doses per month from April onwards.

Leo said end of June not summer - so 1m per month in April, May and June plus whatever is done in Jan-Mar.

So yes 4m or 80% is well achievable.

Nothing is guaranteed but that's based on best estimates of supply including likely approval of J&J.

You do realise shortly after michael martin announced his statement last night ...It was announced that Astra zenica told the eu that it expects to deliver less than half the doses of covid 19 it was contracted to deliver to the eu in the second quarter..... j& j vaccine not approved yet..
I wouldn't read much into what this government promises....

Tonight there are 56 dead and 574 new cases .....the only thing this government is doing is bringing children back to schools with a virus that is highly transmissible in children.....great job

24-02-2021 06:44PM

My 3rd class child is back on monday the school just sent me an email.

Because 2nd and 3rd share the classroom they are all coming in on Monday.

Surely this isnt right.

hesaidshesaid · 24-02-2021 06:46PM

zeebre12 wrote: »

So I don't engage with my own students online I usually take out throughout the school day?

Our principal just finished up with the INTO principals' zoom meeting and confirmed all SET and SNAs back in the building on Monday.

'Computer says No' comes to mind here.

lulublue22 · 24-02-2021 07:03PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

My 3rd class child is back on monday the school just sent me an email.

Because 2nd and 3rd share the classroom they are all coming in on Monday.

Surely this isnt right.

Yes those in multigrade classes ie 2nd / 3rd in one class - 3rd are back also.

wirelessdude01 · 24-02-2021 07:25PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

My 3rd class child is back on monday the school just sent me an email.

Because 2nd and 3rd share the classroom they are all coming in on Monday.

Surely this isnt right.

That is correct. Anyone in the same room as one of the classes going back is also back.

statesaver · 24-02-2021 07:35PM

British giving 200 million for summer schooling. Any chance we could do something similar ?

Icyseanfitz · 24-02-2021 07:44PM

https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1364634958086742023?s=20

Terrible, poor child and family.

Str8outtaWuhan · 24-02-2021 07:47PM

statesaver wrote: »

British giving 200 million for summer schooling. Any chance we could do something similar ?

it is called the july provision it happens every year

wirelessdude01 · 24-02-2021 07:48PM

statesaver wrote: »

British giving 200 million for summer schooling. Any chance we could do something similar ?

Funnily enough we've been providing this for many a year, it's called July provision.

Marty Bird · 24-02-2021 07:49PM

Isn’t July provision only for children with additional needs?

24-02-2021 07:55PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Cool, so when do teachers and SNAs get their vaccines? Should be real soon right :pac:

I think they should get them after the old and vulnerable. I think they probably will get them in may

Marty Bird · 24-02-2021 07:58PM

penny piper wrote: »

You do realise shortly after michael martin announced his statement last night ...It was announced that Astra zenica told the eu that it expects to deliver less than half the doses of covid 19 it was contracted to deliver to the eu in the second quarter..... j& j vaccine not approved yet..
I wouldn't read much into what this government promises....

Tonight there are 56 dead and 574 new cases .....the only thing this government is doing is bringing children back to schools with a virus that is highly transmissible in children.....great job

You do realise that Astra Zeneca refuted that claim and have said they will deliver all contracted vaccine supply in Q2

Msbookeeper · 24-02-2021 07:59PM

To me, it appears that without proper masks provided, no improvement of ventilation in school buildings (corridors are a disaster), no mention of improved close contact tracing, no on the ground measures have been taken to make schools any safer.

Despite the new variant becoming the dominant strain, despite children being far more likely to pass it on now.

Feels like the Gov. called unions bluff. Has anyone contacted their union rep? I emaied today but no reply, seems we're just taking this one lying down despite no improvement in on the ground safety and no I don't believe it when Des says school environment is safe - 30 people in one poorly ventilated room, nope.

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