Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

Larbre34 wrote: »

Mamma mia.

The bus routes already diverted down Park Avenue were causing chaos today I hear also. Completely unsuitable route for buses.

A lot of the road space in these areas is taken up with people storing their private property on the public road.

Same thing happens in Glasnevin, people park their cars on the road and the buses struggle to operate.

If there is an injunction to stop works pending a full review would that not just mean dropping tools and leaving any in progress partially completed works in place until the hearing. It'd be a waste of money to undo everything to only redo it again at a later date.

That'd be a terribly ironic outcome.

Effects wrote: »

Get your shopping delivered, or else deal with the increased traffic as it's only once a week as you say.

Tesco Metro in the village is fine for everything else.

I wouldnt be into getting shopping delivered and I like to use the butcher . I dont mind so much any personal inconvenience but my support would drop if I noticed a deterioration around the Village in terms of traffic, or a deterioration in my kids cycling commute to school

Grassey wrote: »

If there is an injunction to stop works pending a full review would that not just mean dropping tools and leaving any in progress partially completed works in place until the hearing.

No, in that event the Council would have to reinstate some or all of what they've changed so far. Maybe some of the new kerbing could remain, but junctions and mini roundabouts would have to be restored to their previous arrangement for everyone's safety.

Don't forget, even though the Court has scheduled a judicial review hearing for April, he may well defer to the determination of An Bord Pleanála which has been applied for. Given the An BP backlog, that could take months. If they determine a Part 8 or other environmental assessment process must be carried out, you're looking at another 6 months - thats if the Council decide to revisit it once pandemic impacts have begun to fade. (also don't forget if it goes against them, ALL of their covid mobility schemes around the City will have to go through Part 8, the Council will have to prioritise according to their resources)

In short, if trial is halted tomorrow, it'll likely be a year before there is any chance of work on the ground resuming. And acknowledging the Mod ruling above, I base that opinion on long experience of such processes, not just random numbers.

Trudee wrote: »

Next Monday DCC close Merrion Gates to northbound traffic so first turn right being Serpentine Avenue which has no pedestrian lights nor are there any pedestrian lights to cross at Merrion Road at junction of Serpentine Avenue,
seems that pedestrians are way down pecking order. DCC own figures have a 114% increase morning peak hours on Merrion Road after Merrion gates heading towards town which doesn’t seem to be helpful for pedestrians and cyclists who currently use Merrion Road. Very hasty decisions made by DCC could very well jeopardise people adjacent to Merrion Road from Monday.

There is a Ped crossing about 10 metres away from the junction.

There is no pedestrian crossing/lights at Serpentine Avenue which will be the first right hand turn now from 1st March, the pedestrian lights you are talking about are half way between Serpentine Avenue and Ballsbridge Avenue which is of no value to anybody who wants to cross Serpentine/Merrion Rd, the ped lights you refer to were put there initially when AIB said they were relocating all their staff to AIB HQ which of course never happened. Fact remains that come Monday 1st March this turning off Merrion Road is lethal for pedestrians walking towards Ballsbridge along Merrion Road opposite RDS side and lethal for anybody coming up Serpentine who wants to cross to other side to walk towards Ballsbridge.

I assume works will cease in Sandymount tomorrow but when will it go to court properly? In the summer?

Trudee wrote: »

There is no pedestrian crossing/lights at Serpentine Avenue which will be the first right hand turn now from 1st March, the pedestrian lights you are talking about are half way between Serpentine Avenue and Ballsbridge Avenue which is of no value to anybody who wants to cross Serpentine/Merrion Rd, the ped lights you refer to were put there initially when AIB said they were relocating all their staff to AIB HQ which of course never happened. Fact remains that come Monday 1st March this turning off Merrion Road is lethal for pedestrians walking towards Ballsbridge along Merrion Road opposite RDS side and lethal for anybody coming up Serpentine who wants to cross to other side to walk towards Ballsbridge.

I've attached an aerial view for your perusal. Marked it up for you too. Your use of hyperbole is interesting.

If you have managed to find a pedestrian crossing light at junction of Serpentine Avenue/Merrion Road you are way ahead of DCC

This is not a pedestrian crossing and you are obviously not familiar with the traffic light sequence here, a left filter light off Serpentine coincides with a right filter off Merrion Road onto Serpentine Ave so pedestrian has no chance, there is no pedestrian button on these lights to go from one side to other of Ave or Road

ted1 wrote: »

14% is a minimal increase. When writing like 114% it sounds like a lot. But it’s not.
It just means instead of 50 cars it’s 57.
What is the base number?

There’s a cycle lane/ bus lane going in on Merrion road. Shouldn’t make a difference to cyclists

Em, I have no opinions on this infrastructure, don't live up there, but a 114% increase is not a increase of just seven, it would be an absolute difference of 57 from the original value, 50, for an overall increase of 107

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I assume works will cease in Sandymount tomorrow but when will it go to court properly? In the summer?

Judge gave them a date in April. That may change depending on the Council's appearance in Court tomorrow.

He could well convene in April and ask have An BP made a determination at that point and if not, adjourn the case until they have. I think thats most likely.