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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #452
    Turtwig
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    Stheno wrote: »
    Typo

    Now its Anthony Staines

    That's one hell of a metamorphosis :p


  • #453
    copeyhagen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,354 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    https://www.irishpost.com/news/irelands-coronavirus-lockdown-ranked-toughest-in-europe-and-4th-toughest-in-the-world-204462

    has this been posted yet?
    IRELAND'S Covid-19 lockdown is the strictest in Europe, and the fourth strictest in the world, a new study has revealed.

    Experts at the University of Oxford have compiled together data from the pandemic responses of 180 countries around the globe.


  • #454
    dirkmeister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭dirkmeister


    Is Holly Cairns another Zero Covid follower?

    She’s casting doubt on the vaccine aswell.


  • #455
    Happydays2020
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    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Right I know the zero covid crowd are spoofers and all but let's not be holding up gript as some kind of holy grail of truth. Wait until Thursday? The man is blatantly just drying to drum up hype for his 'news' outlet.

    Sure let’s see what ‘evidence’ they come up with on Thursday. Getting lots of attention. I hate that anti-vax stuff also.


  • #456
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    These humanites graduates talk shyte as they are fed shyte..variants blah blah...glewbally we must step up...this mark lad needs a sun lamp the big coke head on em


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  • #457
    Always_Running
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    Amount of people in hospital the last 5 Tuesdays.

    23/9 - 642
    16/2 - 813
    9/2 - 1012
    2/2 - 1368
    26-1 - 1689

    Be interesting to see what the projections will be for 5 weeks time (March 30th)


  • #458
    plodder
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    Ficheall wrote: »
    Won't the R number factor in the effect of the vaccine? If we can't eventually get the R number below 1 with the vaccine, then things really will have gone tits-up.
    Do we care about the R number every Winter with the other Coronaviruses that cause the common cold? We don't because it doesn't matter if the whole country is infected with a dose of the sniffles. The hope is that this virus will be reduced to 'just another coronavirus' but it's the hospital cases and deaths that are the only metrics that matter in that respect.

    “Fanaticism is always a sign of repressed doubt” - Carl Jung



  • #459
    dominatinMC
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    dirkmeister wrote: »
    Is Holly Cairns another Zero Covid follower?

    She’s casting doubt on the vaccine aswell.
    What the fcuk does she know about vaccines. Very annoying the way variants are becoming weaponised for political motives at this stage


  • #460
    [Deleted User]
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    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Sure let’s see what ‘evidence’ they come up with on Thursday. Getting lots of attention. I hate that anti-vax stuff also.

    There are lots of antivax loons who wouldn't know a protein from a proton but that doesnt mean others who are wary dont have a right to be. Some of us are the bath water......dont throw us out with the antivax baby..


  • #461
    [Deleted User]
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    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Sure let’s see what ‘evidence’ they come up with on Thursday. Getting lots of attention. I hate that anti-vax stuff also.

    It's a pure Trump tactic, they'll be releasing the kraken next.


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  • #462
    [Deleted User]
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    dominatinMC wrote: »
    What the fcuk does she know about vaccines. Very annoying the way variants are becoming weaponised for political motives at this stage

    Hope you didnt hear mcconkey today so...jasus..shocking stuff


  • #463
    Ficheall
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    plodder wrote: »
    The hope is that this virus will be reduced to 'just another coronavirus'
    Is there any evidence that that is happening?


  • #464
    Azatadine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    It's just unreal at the moment.....Cairns and Staines on TV3.....Ryan on PT.....only missing McConkey now.....

    It seems like a concerted effort....I'm not CT type person but it seems insane that this crowd are being facilitated by the media.


  • #465
    Golfman64
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    Azatadine wrote: »
    It's just unreal at the moment.....Cairns and Staines on TV3.....Ryan on PT.....only missing McConkey now.....

    It seems like a concerted effort....I'm not CT type person but it seems insane that this crowd are being facilitated by the media.

    Lockdown and Doom is good for the media. More clicks and less alternative forms of engagement for the general public. The media will support and facilitate this as much as possible.


  • #466
    D.Q
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    Azatadine wrote: »
    It's just unreal at the moment.....Cairns and Staines on TV3.....Ryan on PT.....only missing McConkey now.....

    It seems like a concerted effort....I'm not CT type person but it seems insane that this crowd are being facilitated by the media.

    I actually scoffed at some of the theories but the way it's all playing out is making me seriously second guess myself.


  • #467
    dominatinMC
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    rusty cole wrote: »
    Hope you didnt hear mcconkey today so...jasus..shocking stuff
    I've heard plenty of him, too much in fact! :pac: I've also read the reports that the vaccines work against all the variants by preventing serious illness and deaths. McConkey et al. are looking for perfection, they want the vaccines to prevent any kind of symptons, prevent transmission, etc. Let's not loose sight of the fact that all we need is something that prevents strain on our health service


  • #468
    dirkmeister
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    dominatinMC wrote: »
    What the fcuk does she know about vaccines. Very annoying the way variants are becoming weaponised for political motives at this stage

    It’s scary how many people on twitter are giving it the “You go,girl” to that sh!te she came out with.

    They are so wrapped up in identity politics that they can’t look at anything objectively.


  • #469
    Golfman64
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    Ficheall wrote: »
    Is there any evidence that that is happening?

    Actually, the evidence from Israel points to protection from the virus and prevention of transmission post vaccination.


  • #470
    h2005
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    Am I missing something with the vaccines, why is there such a push at the moment to say they're not the answer? Surely the vast majority ending up in hospital now would have been in the demographic marked for early vaccination? Once these people are all vaccinated surely the hospital numbers and deaths plummet? What stops us from getting on with our lives then?


  • #471
    jams100
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    I hear about new supports for businesses every effing day now.

    Who is going to be paying for this when it's all over? (I'm aware this isn't a popular question but it's one we do as a country need to start talking about and putting more balance on all the other downsides of these continuous lockdowns)

    Edit: Is anyone aware of a journalist who has asked this question? (Not that the government would answer it anyway...it would be fudged)


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  • #472
    TheDoctor
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    Golfman64 wrote: »
    Actually, the evidence from Israel points to protection from the virus and prevention of transmission post vaccination.

    Israel is the real life case study, everything else is just speculation.


  • #473
    dominatinMC
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    h2005 wrote: »
    Am I missing something with the vaccines, why is there such a push at the moment to say they're not the answer? Surely the vast majority ending up in hospital now would have been in the demographic marked for early vaccination? Once these people are all vaccinated surely the hospital numbers and deaths plummet? What stops us from getting on with our lives then?
    This exactly. There appears to be a monumental shifting of the goalposts, in that we now somehow need to eradicate the virus. Also, strains and variants seem to be the new flavour of the month to undermine the vaccines, despite the evidence showing that the vaccines work effectively in preventing serious illness and deaths.


  • #474
    Azatadine
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    Golfman64 wrote: »
    Lockdown and Doom is good for the media. More clicks and less alternative forms of engagement for the general public. The media will support and facilitate this as much as possible.

    It seems to be reaching a crescendo at the moment. It's not right. It really isn't. Clowns peddling non scientific, non data based ideas and these clowns are supposed to be scientists......teaching in academic institutions!!!! They actually go against science. It is driving me nuts. It really is.

    Think of the ordinary person out there watching and listening to this stuff. It's really not right and if those clowns have to be provided with a platform, there should be a representative from an alternative point of view there to debate with them so that they don't get away with their nonsense.


  • #475
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    dirkmeister wrote: »
    It’s scary how many people on twitter are giving it the “You go,girl” to that sh!te she came out with.

    They are so wrapped up in identity politics that they can’t look at anything objectively.

    When you have never read abook in your life social media is fed to you as if its fact....these shrewd tv personalities are coached, trained and taught exactly how to use ques. Sure how easy can it be...most people care more about insta followers over getting back to normal


  • #476
    Tim Robbins
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    Just checking the new vaccine prioritisation guidelines.
    It says "severe asthma (repeated use of systemic corticosteroids)" - what does this mean? that you need your inhaler every day?


  • #477
    speckle
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    ISAG

    antony staines
    gerry kileen
    tomas ryan
    ivan perry
    patrica kearney
    sam mcconkey
    helen dolk
    philip hoeval
    nessa cronin
    julien mercille
    aoife mclysaght
    shane bergin
    paul dempsey
    clare kelly
    kevin mitchell
    james merrick
    gabriel scally
    yaneer bar-yam
    amanda kvalsig
    michael baker

    know your poison or cuppa tea depending on what side of the fence you graze.


  • #478
    [Deleted User]
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    Tim Robbins wrote: »
    Just checking the new vaccine prioritisation guidelines.
    It says "severe asthma (repeated use of systemic corticosteroids)" - what does this mean? that you need your inhaler every day?

    I work with a 50 year old asthmatic with covid..no symptoms at all so although all organisms differ please dont panic ok.


  • #479
    [Deleted User]
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    h2005 wrote: »
    Am I missing something with the vaccines, why is there such a push at the moment to say they're not the answer? Surely the vast majority ending up in hospital now would have been in the demographic marked for early vaccination? Once these people are all vaccinated surely the hospital numbers and deaths plummet? What stops us from getting on with our lives then?

    The push to say vaccines are not the answer is to prevent a free for all before enough of the vulnerable are vaccinated


  • #480
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Azatadine wrote: »
    It seems to be reaching a crescendo at the moment. It's not right. It really isn't. Clowns peddling non scientific, non data based ideas and these clowns are supposed to be scientists......teaching in academic institutions!!!! They actually go against science. It is driving me nuts. It really is.

    Think of the ordinary person out there watching and listening to this stuff. It's really not right and if those clowns have to be provided with a platform, there should be a representative from an alternative point of view there to debate with them so that they don't get away with their nonsense.

    I don't like alternatives point of view debates as that makes everything fifty-fifty when in science they're not. They simply should not be in the airwaves period. Or they should be fact checked by the relevant anchor.

    Variants are a concern. They could become serious. They might not. The way their used to imply the vaccinations have no benefit is appalling. It's also a public health hazard. People may hesitate to get vaccinated because of this crap.


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  • #481
    plodder
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    Ficheall wrote: »
    Is there any evidence that that is happening?
    There's lots of evidence of dramatically reduced infections and symptoms from places that have high levels of vaccination like Israel and the UK, and the US, and even here in the hospitals they've noticed a big reduction already in staff infections.

    Of course, we don't know exactly what is going to happen with the variants but if hospital cases keep falling, then the vaccines must be working against them. Nobody is going to know what will happen next November until then, but I'd accept the risk of increased measures or even a lockdown, which would hopefully be unlikely. What's the alternative? Stay in the present lock down until Summer next year?

    “Fanaticism is always a sign of repressed doubt” - Carl Jung



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