Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01

wirelessdude01 · 22-02-2021 04:51PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Our principal just emailed us and the 6th years confirming they are back 1st March. Was this actually announced for certain as I hadn't heard it anywhere.

Not yet but I am aware that all 3 teaching unions and Forsa were brought in for meetings this afternoon.

SusanC10 · 22-02-2021 04:51PM

I have been offline most of today.
Is there any update?
Particularly non-Exam Secondary and older Primary.
Will they make a proper formal announcement tomorrow?

Thanks.

wirelessdude01 · 22-02-2021 04:58PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

I have been offline most of today.
Is there any update?
Particularly non-Exam Secondary and older Primary.
Will they make a proper formal announcement tomorrow?

Thanks.

No news and no one knows.

penny piper · 22-02-2021 05:00PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Our principal just emailed us and the 6th years confirming they are back 1st March. Was this actually announced for certain as I hadn't heard it anywhere.

One of my children who teaches had a staff meeting this morning and was told 5th/6th are back next monday 1st ..confirmation will be given wednesday..

Icyseanfitz · 22-02-2021 05:04PM

penny piper wrote: »

One of my children who teaches had a staff meeting this morning and was told 5th/6th are back next monday 1st ..confirmation will be given wednesday..

Our 5th years are doing fantastic work, why in the **** rush them back in, just bring 6th in and keep the numbers down ffs

Richard tea · 22-02-2021 05:07PM

Whatisthisnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/eoghanymurphy/status/1363781381495603200?s=19

Schools Cannot Open

Why the drama? Not one child admitted to ICU. 18 hospitalised could be for minor issues. The great teacher bluff of this pandemic now coming to an end. Let the games commence over the next few budgets.

thomasdylan · 22-02-2021 05:12PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

I'm sorry but that's completely untrue, in the last 2 decades we've had bird flu, swine flu, Ebola, SARS but to name a few, if you work in a medical field the threat of transmissible diseases is very real and should be taken into consideration as a day to day precaution if that's a career you wish to follow.

It is true. Please look up 'pandemic' and 'epidemic'.

Bird flu, swine flu, Ebola, SARS are incomparable to the global impact Covid has had. Cop yourself on.

The modern global healthcare system has never experienced anything like that and it's stupid to suggest that all healthcare workers should have been prepared for an unprecedented global pandemic.

CruelSummer · 22-02-2021 05:14PM

penny piper wrote: »

Irish Independent today Trinity College Professor Tomas O'Ryan said
"new varient more infectious among children than previous strain"..
He also said "schools are only safe when the community around them is safe"... B117 strain is more dominant in Ireland..

A neuroscientist with extremist views on what our response to Covid should be has no place making comments on our Education, schooling or any other decisions that need to be made. Why are RTÉ giving him airtime? He's already made a number of false accusations and is now trying to destroy our children's Education.

penny piper · 22-02-2021 05:22PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

A neuroscientist with extremist views on what our response to Covid should be has no place making comments on our Education, schooling or any other decisions that need to be made. Why are RTÉ giving him airtime? He's already made a number of false accusations and is now trying to destroy our children's Education.

He's also a member of the Independent Scientific Advocacy Group...it's not as though he isn't quoting the truth/common sense....he's hardly trying to destroy children's education..don't be so melodramatic...

CruelSummer · 22-02-2021 05:35PM

penny piper wrote: »

He's also a member of the Independent Scientific Advocacy Group...it's not as though he isn't quoting the truth/common sense....he's hardly trying to destroy children's education..don't be so melodramatic...

That's a group he himself made with a few other Zero Covid advocates, because he made this group - you're saying he speak the truth? If I made a group tomorrow called the Scientific Expert Immunology and Virology group and started making all sorts of claims despite having qualifications in a different field, would you believe me?

Also to add - he is most certainly trying to destroy children's Education. How would Dublin ever get schools open or any other urban areas under his plan? Keeping schools closed any longer will destroy children's Education, it's quite simple and tragic.
Some teacher's seem to have skin in the game on this thread where their personal situations dictate their agenda to keep schools closed. They never wanted the schools opened from September to December and constantly campaigned to get them closed again. Shame on them, and others for supporting this during a time of crisis and a pandemic. It's beyond time that schools should be reopened.

22-02-2021 05:45PM

The latest from RTE

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0222/1198595-education/

oopsies · 22-02-2021 05:47PM

Anyone know when they might bring back ECCE kids?

PeterPan92 · 22-02-2021 05:48PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

That's a group he himself made with a few other Zero Covid advocates, because he made this group - you're saying he speak the truth? If I made a group tomorrow called the Scientific Expert Immunology and Virology group and started making all sorts of claims despite having qualifications in a different field, would you believe me?
Also to add - he is most certainly trying to destroy children's Education. How would Dublin ever get schools open or any other urban areas under his plan? Keeping schools closed any longer will destroy children's Education, it's quite simple and tragic.
Some teacher's seem to have skin in the game on this thread where their personal situations dictate their agenda to keep schools closed. They never wanted the schools opened from September to December and constantly campaigned to get them closed again. Shame on them, and others for supporting this during a time of crisis and a pandemic. It's beyond time that schools should be reopened.

I would completely contest your assertion that teachers "never wanted schools open". Read through my old posts, I called for opening repeatedly through last closure.

We are in a far more precarious position now than we were last April and May. New strains, numbers that aren't falling next or near as quickly as predicted, and growing evidence that children carry the new strains more easily that the original strain. Yet, I (and most teachers) still want schools to open! All we are asking for is a safe approach to this to monitor how the virus spreads in our schools. That's it. Not an indefinite closure. A safe, slow reopening.

Warbeastrior · 22-02-2021 05:50PM

Icyseanfitz wrote:

Our 5th years are doing fantastic work, why in the **** rush them back in, just bring 6th in and keep the numbers down ffs

Why bring the 6th years back? Ours are doing great work too and happy out from home.

Icyseanfitz · 22-02-2021 05:50PM

thomasdylan wrote: »

It is true. Please look up 'pandemic' and 'epidemic'.

Bird flu, swine flu, Ebola, SARS are incomparable to the global impact Covid has had. Cop yourself on.

The modern global healthcare system has never experienced anything like that and it's stupid to suggest that all healthcare workers should have been prepared for an unprecedented global pandemic.

I wasn't arguing pandemic vs epidemic, I was arguing that if your a medical worker you should expect to be working with people who are Ill and contagious, its part of the profession you signed up for.

combat14 · 22-02-2021 06:15PM

not much appetite to safely eopen schools at the moment amongst scientists quoted in todays papers

‘New variant more infectious among children’ – Trinity professor says schools only safe when community is

https://m.independent.ie/news/new-variant-more-infectious-among-children-trinity-professor-says-schools-only-safe-when-community-is-40117845.html

Vaccinating children could be key to stifling Covid, say experts

Scientists say there is significant risk of resurgence until all age groups are immunise

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/22/vaccinating-children-could-be-key-to-stifling-covid-say-experts

penny piper · 22-02-2021 06:20PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

That's a group he himself made with a few other Zero Covid advocates, because he made this group - you're saying he speak the truth? If I made a group tomorrow called the Scientific Expert Immunology and Virology group and started making all sorts of claims despite having qualifications in a different field, would you believe me?

Also to add - he is most certainly trying to destroy children's Education. How would Dublin ever get schools open or any other urban areas under his plan? Keeping schools closed any longer will destroy children's Education, it's quite simple and tragic.
Some teacher's seem to have skin in the game on this thread where their personal situations dictate their agenda to keep schools closed. They never wanted the schools opened from September to December and constantly campaigned to get them closed again. Shame on them, and others for supporting this during a time of crisis and a pandemic. It's beyond time that schools should be reopened.

I happen to agree with his opinion and as far "destroying children's education" he actually suggested that schools should be opened on a county by county basis...

Schools were opened in the last lockdown in october when the majority of people were working from home......

You have just typed "this during a time of crisis and pandemic" ..maybe you should think about that....

Safety for all is paramount...

km79 · 22-02-2021 06:22PM

penny piper wrote: »

One of my children who teaches had a staff meeting this morning and was told 5th/6th are back next monday 1st ..confirmation will be given wednesday..

5th year’s won’t be back next Monday
Not a hope
It has not been said by anyone at any stage. They MIGHT be back two weeks later

TheValeyard · 22-02-2021 06:32PM

km79 wrote: »

5th year’s won’t be back next Monday
Not a hope
It has not been said by anyone at any stage. They MIGHT be back two weeks later

I'd agree here.

penny piper · 22-02-2021 06:36PM

km79 wrote: »

5th year’s won’t be back next Monday
Not a hope
It has not been said by anyone at any stage. They MIGHT be back two weeks later

I'm only repeating what was said idk...maybe the principal was just guessing ..confirmation of this was to be given wednesday...probably will change then..idk
1 dead and 686 new cases today

Locotastic · 22-02-2021 07:11PM

penny piper wrote: »

I'm only repeating what was said idk...maybe the principal was just guessing ..confirmation of this was to be given wednesday...probably will change then..idk

Shockingly nothing has been confirmed yet, all just media leaks at the moment. Guess work by journalists along with blabbermouth politicians who simply adore the limelight.

God knows what they'll do when nobody cares what they have to say any more, I think they will miss the attention.

hesaidshesaid · 22-02-2021 07:17PM

Is it tomorrow we're expecting a formal announcement?

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 22-02-2021 07:23PM

Don't forget your S&S next week as well....

I'm not kidding, was emailed to us today

wirelessdude01 · 22-02-2021 07:47PM

MarshmallowPop wrote: »

I think everyone needs to relax. Children will be back to school in no time.

On another note, the DES are one shower of devious SO and SOs. Two weeks ago, they were classing all pregnant teachers as high risk and could work remotely in the short term and during the phased reopening. It even came out in a circular from the DES.

On Thursday gone past, the DES have now changed their tune and are classing pregnant teachers as high risk but safe to return to work.

They obviously used it a carrot on a stick for the return to work but removed it when the reopening of schools was set in stone!!!

Six one news says the opposite, provision for this is now entended. No information given for how long though.

Mrsmum · 22-02-2021 08:06PM

According to Emer O Kelly, RTE reporter, earlier on the News, unions are on board for LC students and Junior & Senior Infants going back next Monday. On the advice of Nephet. I'm fairly sure that's what she said.

CruelSummer · 22-02-2021 08:08PM

penny piper wrote: »

I happen to agree with his opinion and as far "destroying children's education" he actually suggested that schools should be opened on a county by county basis...

Schools were opened in the last lockdown in october when the majority of people were working from home......

You have just typed "this during a time of crisis and pandemic" ..maybe you should think about that....

Safety for all is paramount...

You’ve just contradicted yourself in your reply as Ryan did earlier. If schools were to reopen on a ‘county by county’ basis - Dublin schools would not have reopened at all this year, and other areas like in border counties. So a population of 1million plus in Dublin City alone would not have had any in person education whatsoever. It’s a disgraceful suggestion.
While schools were opened in the last level 5, if you’d read my post I mentioned there are posters here who kept campaigning incessantly for them to be closed during this time. Joining Facebook groups, scaremongering about cases. It’s wrong.

SusanC10 · 22-02-2021 08:13PM

Mrsmum wrote: »

According to Emer O Kelly, RTE reporter, earlier on the News, unions are on board for LC students and Junior & Senior Infants going back next Monday. On the advice of Nephet. I'm fairly sure that's what she said.

Just J1 and S1 then at Primary to start with?

iamwhoiam · 22-02-2021 08:15PM

Mrsmum wrote: »

According to Emer O Kelly, RTE reporter, earlier on the News, unions are on board for LC students and Junior & Senior Infants going back next Monday. On the advice of Nephet. I'm fairly sure that's what she said.

She said J and S infants , 1st and 2nd Class on March 1st

22-02-2021 08:32PM

Mrsmum wrote: »

According to Emer O Kelly, RTE reporter, earlier on the News, unions are on board for LC students and Junior & Senior Infants going back next Monday. On the advice of Nephet. I'm fairly sure that's what she said.

Imagine following the advice of the experts. How ridiculous a concept

iamwhoiam · 22-02-2021 08:34PM

JimCore wrote: »

Theres currently a number of children fighting for their lives due to covid in Irish hospitals. Many of whom have an inflammatory response that doctors cant explain. Id say theres lots of drama for those families!

The great teacher bluff! Youre a total keyboard warrior with your pub talk ****e

There are no children in ICU in Irish hospitals due to Covid . If they were fighting for their lives they would be in ICU

Yes there are kids with inflammatory response to the virus . There have always been cases of inflammatory responses post viral infections .

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