Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

stephenjmcd · 21-02-2021 08:06PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

They can feck off with there food once these covid restrictions are history

If i want food ill get it, if i want to just drink ill just drink

Don't feed the wum

doublejobbing 2 · 21-02-2021 08:12PM

It's worth remembering- we only got the pubs open in June because pubs that served food threatened to open anyway, and the government couldn't be bothered getting into a legal argument about what legally is and is not a restaurant. No other country in the Western world entertained such pseudoscientific nonsense.

If it was up to these loathsome bastards in NPHET and their dry arsed sycophants in cabinet we would not have had a single pint in 12 months next month.

PTH2009 · 21-02-2021 08:20PM

**** knows what the story will be in the new Living with Covid plan in terms of Hospitality

Gastropubs i think fecked themselves up and will also go down the pecking order and might only be permitted in Level 2 with outdoor dining only. Wet pubs prob moved to level 1 (which will be impossible to get to). God knows about hotels etc

The way pubs were treated last summer/autumn was a disgrace

PommieBast · 21-02-2021 08:27PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/longer-opening-hours-for-pubs-and-nightclubs-after-covid-to-be-considered-1.4490931

Session on when this is over or they allow the pubs to open

To me this is nothing more than a cynical PR move. I don't think I have ever seen 11pm Sunday closing observed..

Cork2021 · 21-02-2021 08:31PM

PommieBast wrote: »

To me this is nothing more than a cynical PR move. I don't think I have ever seen 11pm Sunday closing observed..

Is it 11? Same as you so, never been in a pub and told last orders at 11 on a Sunday

peterc1991 · 21-02-2021 08:43PM

Cork2021 wrote: »

Is it 11? Same as you so, never been in a pub and told last orders at 11 on a Sunday

Its more a doors are closed at 11 on a sunday. Ive always got a pint up until 12.

Bigfatmichael · 21-02-2021 09:22PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I have some inside knowledge of some of the new proposals to reform the liquor licensing laws. It's true that they will be extended hours for certain establishments - but there is also set to be stricter rules around the serving of food. It's aimed at improving the character of pubs post covid, and reduce the number of pure drinking houses.

Sure you do, you also love to discuss the smell of your ****e with other posters in that after hours thread.

Grueller Baby · 21-02-2021 09:27PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Takeaway pints are banned right now, right?

Most bars that are currently serving take away food still offer take away pints. My local only has Heineken and Coors on the takeaway menu though.

dominatinMC · 21-02-2021 09:28PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What did he say about vaccine efficacy?

Nothing, but the Professor on the radio after him said that all vaccines work against all variants. She admitted that some will have reduced efficacy, but that people are obsessing over efficacy when the real objective of vaccines is not to prevent minor symptoms, but to stop people getting seriously ill, prevent hospitalisations and deaths - which they do. She also said that emerging evidence is suggesting that the vaccines reduce transmission by almost 90%. Win-win.

dominatinMC · 21-02-2021 09:28PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I have some inside knowledge of some of the new proposals to reform the liquor licensing laws. It's true that they will be extended hours for certain establishments - but there is also set to be stricter rules around the serving of food. It's aimed at improving the character of pubs post covid, and reduce the number of pure drinking houses.

ShyMets wrote: »

I doubt you have any inside knowledge

Fixed this.

saabsaab · 21-02-2021 09:38PM

He could be right. Wouldn't be the first time someone on boards is ahead with information. This is the way pubs are going anyway and a lot won't reopen after this.

ShyMets · 21-02-2021 09:41PM

saabsaab wrote: »

He could be right. Wouldn't be the first time someone on boards is ahead with information. This is the way pubs are going anyway and a lot won't reopen after this.

There will remain a market of non food pubs. I wouldn't go as far as saying a lot won't reopen. But some certainly wont

dominatinMC · 21-02-2021 09:47PM

saabsaab wrote: »

He could be right. Wouldn't be the first time someone on boards is ahead with information. This is the way pubs are going anyway and a lot won't reopen after this.

So you keep saying. But just because you keep saying it doesn't mean it's correct. Time will tell but, based on very limited anecodatal evidence (from Boards, Reddit, Twitter, etc.), my view is that there is huge demand for traditional pubs and they could thrive when alllowed to reopen. Now basing an opinion off social media is no way representative of consumer sentiment, but it is more reflective than one poster rehashing the same line over and over.

paddyisreal · 21-02-2021 09:49PM

If the uk/North are to have everything open inclyding pubs etc by June according to there new road map will that not put massive pressure on some sort of pub/hospitality reopening here?

Coillte_Bhoy · 21-02-2021 09:54PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/longer-opening-hours-for-pubs-and-nightclubs-after-covid-to-be-considered-1.4490931

Session on when this is over or they allow the pubs to open

Nonsense, shure arent the Govt egged on by Nphet determined to destroy our pub culture

peterc1991 · 21-02-2021 09:56PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Nonsense, shure arent the Govt egged on by Nphet determined to destroy our pub culture

This is good news. No suprise to see so many people make a joke or take the negative from it though.

discodiva92 · 21-02-2021 09:58PM

Alot in the pub trade don't want longer hours

hynesie08 · 21-02-2021 10:00PM

discodiva92 wrote: »

Alot in the pub trade don't want longer hours

And a lot do, if they don't want them, just close when you want. There is no legal obligation to open till closing time.

El_Duderino 09 · 21-02-2021 10:01PM

dominatinMC wrote: »

Nothing, but the Professor on the radio after him said that all vaccines work against all variants. She admitted that some will have reduced efficacy, but that people are obsessing over efficacy when the real objective of vaccines is not to prevent minor symptoms, but to stop people getting seriously ill, prevent hospitalisations and deaths - which they do. She also said that emerging evidence is suggesting that the vaccines reduce transmission by almost 90%. Win-win.

I agree that the vaccine’s main purpose is to avoid major symptoms and death, but you need the vaccine to work and you need to know how well it works. Someone on the radio doesn’t need to “admit” that it’s efficacy is less than 100%. They just need to report it.

The thing that I’ve learned from these threads is that people in general are terrible at comprehending information accurately. They misinterpret things in all kinds of ways. Nuance is lost on people in this regard.

But yes. The news this week has been generally great interns of actually dealing with the situation and getting on with the life.

seanoge · 21-02-2021 10:01PM

My friend says there was a time when only outside drinking was allowed. When was this?

Coillte_Bhoy · 21-02-2021 10:03PM

discodiva92 wrote: »

Alot in the pub trade don't want longer hours

I would say most do, the idea of everywhere closing at the same time is ridiculous anyway

mean gene · 21-02-2021 10:03PM

last year-looking forward to getting p1ssed on and frozen at this years do

pgj2015 · 21-02-2021 10:04PM

seanoge wrote: »

My friend says there was a time when only outside drinking was allowed. When was this?

Level 4. I think we were in level 4 around October. it only lasted about 3 weeks.

Beasty · 21-02-2021 10:06PM

Threads merged

doublejobbing 2 · 21-02-2021 10:07PM

re how many family owned pubs are at risk of going under, if the proprietor owns the premises, why is there an increased risk of going under if there is no rent or mortgage to pay on the pub? Apart from electric and turning the heat on during the winter so the place doesn't go mouldy, exactly what costs are a dormant pub running up? Are landlords really cracking down hard on indebted rented pubs rather than meeting them half way? Were they able to cancel public liabiility insurance for the duration of shut downs? (fairly sure they were able to cancel Sky Sports etc). Obviously some pubs may have taken out loans for renovations etc but again surely in the current times the banks shoud be forced to meet them half way.

Obviously they will have lost thousands in gone off stock due to the ludicrous yo yo nature of open up shut down through the year, but aside from this.

Isn't exactly like they can evict them and they will have a new tenant ready to move in tomorrow.

PTH2009 · 21-02-2021 10:07PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

Level 4. I think we were in level 4 around October. it only lasted about 3 weeks.

Think that was level 3.5

saabsaab · 21-02-2021 10:32PM

They say it only takes 21 days to change a habit. Nearly a year on since this started and many will have found new drinking habits and won't return to their old pub ways. Seismic change is coming but no doubt some will have issue with this.

castletownman · 21-02-2021 10:36PM

saabsaab wrote: »

They say it only takes 21 days to change a habit. Nearly a year on since this started and many will have found new drinking habits and won't return to their old pub ways. Seismic change is coming but no doubt some will have issue with this.

Some may have changed habits, but most everyone I know from the pub scene that I have met over the last year have said that drinking at home isn't the same, and that they can't wait to have a proper pint again.

I've noticed myself that if I have a few bottles of a Saturday night, I inevitably wouldn't be arsed touching any more the next day. But if I had a few pints on a Saturday night, I'd be mad for the follow-up Sunday afternoon.

Maybe my drinking habits have "matured" in the last year I don't know, but I definitely know I will be in my local as soon as possible.

dominatinMC · 21-02-2021 10:44PM

saabsaab wrote: »

They say it only takes 21 days to change a habit. Nearly a year on since this started and many will have found new drinking habits and won't return to their old pub ways. Seismic change is coming but no doubt some will have issue with this.

Yes, some have, but absence makes the heart grow fonder too. Many are craving for a return to pubs, but no doubt you have issue with this, as you seem determined to see them fail. I can imagine that the latest government news about longer opening hours will come as a blow to your aspirations, but that really doesn't excuse indulging in this kind of rhetoric :rolleyes:

Cork2021 · 21-02-2021 10:53PM

dominatinMC wrote: »

Yes, some have, but absence makes the heart grow fonder too. Many are craving for a return to pubs, but no doubt you have issue with this, as you seem determined to see them fail. I can imagine that the latest government news about longer opening hours will come as a blow to your aspirations, but that really doesn't excuse indulging in this kind of rhetoric :rolleyes:

I have changed my habits, I don’t enjoy having a few beers at home, herself doesn’t drink (had a very bad hangover after storm Emma hasn’t drank since) so we used to go out most Saturday nights and I’d have 5/6 pints and we’d have a great night, we enjoy our movie nights now and so on but fûck it we miss our friends and the craic down town on a Saturday, I miss meeting up with some of my buddies to watch a match on a Sunday and talk ****e!

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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