When will it all end?

ujjjjjjjjj · 20-02-2021 11:12PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Crap like this a full year later says it all.

Its a cult, a religion, there is no god but covid.

Hysteria......

Silentcorner · 20-02-2021 11:17PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Crap like this a full year later says it all.

Its a cult, a religion, there is no god but covid.

It's just like the moving statues madness of the 80s...if we all just stand still and stare the statue will move!!!

C.O.Y.B.I.B · 20-02-2021 11:20PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

Apparently a campaign emerging online by business owners in Tralee proposing to open up on 1st march as a collective . That's probably gonna be the start of it all...... you'd imagine other towns would follow suit

Think it's a great idea and would hope.that
they will still follow summer guidelines i.e masks in barbers , table service in bars . If they do they will have a lot of support I think.
Only problem might be if some staff member contracts Covid from a customer . I'm not a legal expert , but could be costly.

Ginger n Lemon · 20-02-2021 11:21PM

Very encouraging to read in this thread and other threads about amount of people that have given up following this restrictions nonsense.

I played some poker there last night with mates. I am the reason we are in level 5, and me alone

Do not let this nonsense get to you. Things will get better. If history is anything to go by the only time things change dramatically is when enough people are in poverty and enough are desperate. We are currently at a breaking point as a nation. Things will change very soon, much sooner than 9 weeks thats for sure.

Silentcorner · 20-02-2021 11:35PM

Well, as another poster quiet rightly pointed out...we'll be in level 5 until at least May any way so we might as well not give a damn anymore....

I've a family dinner tomorrow, I see my neighbour has a load of friends over tonight for the first time in months...Martin f**ked up being the useless f**k up he is!!!!

Strumms · 20-02-2021 11:48PM

niallo27 wrote: »

You are so out of touch with reality its embarrassing

The fact that you took time out of your day to post that... is embarrassing.

...if you don’t have something to add, contribute or debate .. find something useful to occupy yourself with.

Strumms · 20-02-2021 11:50PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Very encouraging to read in this thread and other threads about amount of people that have given up following this restrictions nonsense.

I played some poker there last night with mates. I am the reason we are in level 5, and me alone

Do not let this nonsense get to you. Things will get better. If history is anything to go by the only time things change dramatically is when enough people are in poverty and enough are desperate. We are currently at a breaking point as a nation. Things will change very soon, much sooner than 9 weeks thats for sure.

Nobody is debating that things will get better, they certainly will, however, the collateral damage that the country and citizens will endure in the meantime... before they get better...

Samsonsmasher · 21-02-2021 12:06AM

The two doctors who were staying in a guesthouse in the Wicklow hills and kindly saved a stranded dog while out hiking are now being investigated for being outside their 5km. The guesthouse was giving doctors and other frontline workers treating people a place to take a breather.
Some member of the public contacted the Gardaí.

That's what we have become as a country.

Can you believe this???

Multipass · 21-02-2021 12:11AM

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

The two doctors who were staying in a guesthouse in the Wicklow hills and kindly saved a stranded dog while out hiking are now being investigated for being outside their 5km. The guesthouse was giving doctors and other frontline workers treating people a place to take a breather.
Some member of the public contacted the Gardaí.

That's what we have become as a country.

Can you believe this???

It’s disgusting, I hate what this country is turning into.
However...... I’m also annoyed by the comments about it being ok because they were frontline workers on a mental health break. The 5km rule is bull**** for everyone. Equally.

E mac · 21-02-2021 12:13AM

Generalisation but there’s been a real shift in the mood here and across the other COVID related forums. I know I’m stating the obvious but the angers really showing last two days.
Just wondering what happens if lockdown goes the length into May and cases are still 700 odd a day? Keep lockdown throughout the summer?

Silentcorner · 21-02-2021 12:19AM

E mac wrote: »

Generalisation but there’s been a real shift in the mood here and across the other COVID related forums. I know I’m stating the obvious but the angers really showing last two days.
Just wondering what happens if lockdown goes the length into May and cases are still 700 odd a day? Keep lockdown throughout the summer?

I think they have lost control of it, people were drained from it anyway, to fly a kite as outrageous as he did on Thursday evening was the staw that broke the camesl back for many.

As I said before, it may only be 20% or 30% of people, but it's enough to lose control...May is a long way off and we are still at the end of a long long winter, the idiot couldn't keep his mouth shut because he has convinced himself this is what the people want...

But talk to people you meet, everyone knows what is happening around the world, this facade that our government policy is proportionate to the impact of the virus is crumbling...you can see it on the threads here, the science deniers advocating level 5 lockdowns are getting hammered.

Real Donald Trump · 21-02-2021 12:20AM

Multipass wrote: »

It’s disgusting, I hate what this country is turning into.
However...... I’m also annoyed by the comments about it being ok because they were frontline workers on a mental health break. The 5km rule is bull**** for everyone. Equally.

This country is slowly but surely turning into China. Chairman Mao Micheal is on one major power trip

Strumms · 21-02-2021 12:29AM

E mac wrote: »

Generalisation but there’s been a real shift in the mood here and across the other COVID related forums. I know I’m stating the obvious but the angers really showing last two days.
Just wondering what happens if lockdown goes the length into May and cases are still 700 odd a day? Keep lockdown throughout the summer?

700 a day WITH lockdown... without ? Hospitals at breaking point, as a health service, staff, families ?

I’d have no great issues if frontline hospital medical staff were allowed some sort of break or leeway but.... with our mentality here you have every hospital ‘employee’ maintaining they should be of the same ability, we just can’t afford that.. our hospitals employ around or just under 70,000 people (2019 figure)... we cannot permit people in numbers like that to go off wandering from what are essentially the most risk laden covid environments to galavanting around the entire country.

E mac · 21-02-2021 12:32AM

Silentcorner wrote: »

I think they have lost control of it, people were drained from it anyway, to fly a kite as outrageous as he did on Thursday evening was the staw that broke the camesl back for many.

As I said before, it may only be 20% or 30% of people, but it's enough to lose control...May is a long way off and we are still at the end of a long long winter, the idiot couldn't keep his mouth shut because he has convinced himself this is what the people want...

But talk to people you meet, everyone knows what is happening around the world, this facade that our government policy is proportionate to the impact of the virus is crumbling...you can see it on the threads here, the science deniers advocating level 5 lockdowns are getting hammered.

I think the government is gambling on the lockdown/vaccine working that come may restrictions can be relaxed somewhat. If Nphed says nope lockdown has to continue then ...what. Last time gov v nphed gov lost. Go against the people after all this restriction it’ll be ruination for FF/FG

E mac · 21-02-2021 12:37AM

Strumms wrote: »

700 a day WITH lockdown... without ? Hospitals at breaking point, as a health service, staff, families ?

I’d have no great issues if frontline hospital medical staff were allowed some sort of break or leeway but.... with our mentality here you have every hospital ‘employee’ maintaining they should be of the same ability, we just can’t afford that.. our hospitals employ around or just under 70,000 people (2019 figure)... we cannot permit people in numbers like that to go off wandering from what are essentially the most risk laden covid environments to galavanting around the entire country.

My point is if case numbers are still high in the month of May does the country continue with level 5 restrictions? If they were high then restrictions would be proven to not be working.

Strumms · 21-02-2021 12:38AM

E mac wrote: »

I think the government is gambling on the lockdown/vaccine working that come may restrictions can be relaxed somewhat. If Nphed says nope lockdown has to continue then ...what. Last time gov v nphed gov lost. Go against the people after all this restriction it’ll be ruination for FF/FG

Won’t be ruination as no other political party has come close to breaking their stranglehold .

Nobody is going against the ‘people’ they ARE going against COVID.

Strumms · 21-02-2021 12:42AM

E mac wrote: »

My point is if case numbers are still high in the month of May does the country continue with level 5 restrictions? If they were high then restrictions would be proven to not be working.

So no restrictions work better ? If level 5 turns into a shîtshow.. say 9000 cases a day, what would 4 have done ? Worse again... much worse... people just need to fuçkin sort themselves out.. get back to being team players in sorting this shïtshow and forget about their needy gumpy grumpy whims, it’s a fûckin pandemic, restrictions aren’t in place for the craic.

E mac · 21-02-2021 12:46AM

Strumms wrote: »

Won’t be ruination as no other political party has come close to breaking their stranglehold .

Nobody is going against the ‘people’ they ARE going against COVID.

Sinn Fein would be in government right now if they had ran enough candidates. They’d be no better in my opinion but how this year plays out could have a huge impact on the next election.

E mac · 21-02-2021 12:48AM

Strumms wrote: »

So no restrictions work better ? If level 5 turns into a shîtshow.. say 9000 cases a day, what would 4 have done ? Worse again... much worse... people just need to fuçkin sort themselves out.. get back to being team players in sorting this shïtshow and forget about their needy gumpy grumpy whims, it’s a fûckin pandemic, restrictions aren’t in place for the craic.

What further restrictions would you suggest imposing if numbers remained high in level 5?

Strumms · 21-02-2021 12:58AM

E mac wrote: »

What further restrictions would you suggest imposing if numbers remained high in level 5?

Any that could influence and impact a reduction in covid numbers.. I’d leave that up to NPHET and the government to nominate exactly.

johnmck · 21-02-2021 12:59AM

Speakerboxx wrote: »

When will things go back to normal?

With vaccines now available will we be here In January 2022 with covid dominating the news headlines? I would love to know.

When we are all good little sheep and obey without question

ujjjjjjjjj · 21-02-2021 01:05AM

I suppose in my heart of hearts I ain't surprised. They bankrupt the country in 2008 and 12 years later they are at it again. It's not a conspiracy or some insane crack pot theory or some mysterious plot.

It is unfortunately just a bunch of incompetent fools going from one dramatic crisis meeting to another listening to middle ranking civil servants who suddenly have found themselves in the limelight. It is a classic narsasistic circle and they are difficult to break.

I remember last March crying with my wife as we both had realised that a line had been crossed the moment the schools shut and it was going to be a long road ahead of incomprehensible stupidity. Incompetence and stupidity I am afraid know no bounds and one maxim rings true about this entire thing - 'Never argue with an idiot'.

Good luck to everyone, I genuinely can't express my sadness enough for all the people who have lost businesses, accrued debt and watched as their kids go into dark places.

Honestly I would love to say things will get better but unfortunately something has broken here and it doesn't go back together.

21-02-2021 01:27AM

Strumms wrote: »

Any that could influence and impact a reduction in covid numbers.. I’d leave that up to NPHET and the government to nominate exactly.

Look at where we are now in terms of restrictions and case numbers. Anything more than what we have is tantamount to house arrest and a deprivation of civil liberties so severe that it would most likely result in insurrection.
You’re basing a metric of case numbers, and while we know case numbers being high is not a good thing, it really depends on the hospitalisations as far as I can tell, and admissions to ICU.
Where does the line be drawn? I think we can all agree that NPHET and the Govt are winging this day by day so I wouldn’t be putting too much stock in anything either of them say. NPHET have made a lot of guarantees regarding L5 and now it seems their advice isn’t delivering.

46 Long · 21-02-2021 01:45AM

the kelt wrote: »

And don’t forget

The virus doesn’t exist in school buildings
It loves alcohol
But dislikes it when it’s served with food.
Our Irish version has a sat nav that activates when people travel further than 5 k
Irish people are dumb enough to believe they don’t have a curfew if you impose a distance travel restriction instead.
Irish people are gullible enough to accept blame and punishment multiple times every time something goes tits up.

And all that matters is there isn’t an optic of hospitals being overrun, everything else can go to hell in a hand basket!

And lastly, if you pump enough fear into a populace you can control them to do what ye want really, key to that is your national broadcaster and popular media outlets.

You forgot to mention that people are safe from the virus if we buy essential items such as chocolate and cigarettes but certain death awaits if you step foot into a clothes shop to buy a winter coat. Our lord and savior Tony Holohan is all-wise and knows that it's better to risk hypothermia than a brush with a deadly disease with only a 99.5% survival rate.

Strumms · 21-02-2021 01:51AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Look at where we are now in terms of restrictions and case numbers. Anything more than what we have is tantamount to house arrest and a deprivation of civil liberties so severe that it would most likely result in insurrection.
You’re basing a metric of case numbers, and while we know case numbers being high is not a good thing, it really depends on the hospitalisations as far as I can tell, and admissions to ICU.
Where does the line be drawn? I think we can all agree that NPHET and the Govt are winging this day by day so I wouldn’t be putting too much stock in anything either of them say. NPHET have made a lot of guarantees regarding L5 and now it seems their advice isn’t delivering.

Insurrection... a violent uprising against the government and or authorities.... that would leave the country in a better place ? Really?

We also have the Army, whose designated role is to protect the state and its people against armed and violent aggression... from inside the state or outside... democracy is threatened.. shoot.

21-02-2021 01:56AM

Strumms wrote: »

Insurrection... a violent uprising against the government and or authorities.... that would leave the country in a better place ? Really?

We also have the Army, whose designated role is to protect the state and its people against armed and violent aggression... from inside the state or outside... democracy is threatened.. shoot.

Who said it would leave the country in a better place?

Real Donald Trump · 21-02-2021 02:01AM

Strumms wrote: »

Insurrection... a violent uprising against the government and or authorities.... that would leave the country in a better place ? Really?

We also have the Army, whose designated role is to protect the state and its people against armed and violent aggression... from inside the state or outside... democracy is threatened.. shoot.

Nothing wrong with a peaceful protest

Strumms · 21-02-2021 02:07AM

Real Donald Trump wrote: »

Nothing wrong with a peaceful protest

if it’s in line with restrictions, certainly isn’t

emo72 · 21-02-2021 02:07AM

Strumms. FG and FF have lost. They had the ignominy of joining together and still needed the greens! It's over for them, this is their last lap. They both got a kicking last time, they'll get kicked harder next time.

The country has had enough of nphet and the government locking us out of our livelihoods, and then letting flights in from Brazil bringing more viruses.
And blaming us for not holding "firm". **** off we are not thicks.

The shark has jumped this weekend. The worm has turned. You can feel it in the air. Everyone has had enough.

josip · 21-02-2021 02:08AM

Strumms wrote: »

700 a day WITH lockdown... without ? Hospitals at breaking point, as a health service, staff, families ?

I’d have no great issues if frontline hospital medical staff were allowed some sort of break or leeway but.... with our mentality here you have every hospital ‘employee’ maintaining they should be of the same ability, we just can’t afford that.. our hospitals employ around or just under 70,000 people (2019 figure)... we cannot permit people in numbers like that to go off wandering from what are essentially the most risk laden covid environments to galavanting around the entire country.

I never thought that there were people who took, "the beatings will continue until morale improves" seriously.

When will it all end?

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