Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII Read OP For Mod Warnings

CalamariFritti · 19-02-2021 02:24PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Imagine if you are going into work or school and are going to be meeting other people.
Should you take a PCR before you go in the door? If so, What's the point of that when it will take a day or two to get the results back. Are people gonna set up PCR testing labs at the door of businesses and schools?
If you are not sick or a close contact you don't qualify for a PCR anyway and if the company funds it privately it costs €100+
Antigens give quick results and you don't need to go to a lab to get one.

Apparently meat factories are now using them as a screen, a good idea.
Michael McNamara explains it well.

https://twitter.com/MlMcNamaraTD/status/1362416111275433987

By the way, Italy, Germany, Holland, Spain and many other countries now insist on an Antigen test on the day of flying for entry. They see it as better than having a PCR 3 days previous as it gives real time results, not those from 72 hours previous.
If it's good enough for these countries, why not for us?

In principle they idea of quick testing is excellent. Technically speaking if truly effective and quick and reasonably accurate that alone could end covid.

However, I fear what may happen is that it will simply increase the number of 'cases', probably quite rapidly, and what seemed a get out will turn into just more restrictions.

C__MC · 19-02-2021 02:24PM

Leo denying that lockdown will go on for 9 weeks
If it’s any hope

pjohnson · 19-02-2021 02:25PM

growleaves wrote: »

p you are the hero Ireland deserves, but not the one it needs right now - with your throwaway one-liners.

Not summat you do Mr. Hold Firm Accounting Firm :P

RobitTV · 19-02-2021 02:27PM

https://twitter.com/DuncanSmithTD/status/1362753079146389504

Penfailed · 19-02-2021 02:28PM

MOH wrote: »

lt's effectively a 24 hour curfew.

Ah Jesus. No. It's not.

Silentcorner · 19-02-2021 02:29PM

C__MC wrote: »

Leo denying that lockdown will go on for 9 weeks
If it’s any hope

People really need to contact their elected representatives.

These politicians have no back bone...they need to hear from ordinary people who's voices are not being heard in media.

I had a rather heated conversation with a local politician this morning, he got very defensive and condescending very quickly, he hasn't thought this through in any way shape or form or he would have been able to dispense with me otherwise, I wasn't being rude I was being very polite.

JMNolan · 19-02-2021 02:31PM

I think people think I reckless for letting the young lad off with his friends but I'm not convinced these restrictions will ever be lifted. People will scoff "how could they keep restrictions forever" and they're probably right but there are constant extensions to the current restrictions, constant virus variants coming into existence. So until it's shown to the contrary as far as I'm concerned these restrictions are here for good and I then have to decide how to live based on that.

hynesie08 · 19-02-2021 02:31PM

C__MC wrote: »

Leo denying that lockdown will go on for 9 weeks
If it’s any hope

He's right........

It'll "go on" for 7 because it's not due to end for 2.

See lads, we're all overreacting........

Level 42 · 19-02-2021 02:32PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Chance to have your say about RTE

https://www.rte.ie/eile/2021/0209/1196058-have-your-say-about-rte/

Clickbait

Green Peter · 19-02-2021 02:32PM

I think the media need to stop being puppets like George Lee, everytime I see him on the 6 one I can't get the picture of Tony Holohans hand stuck up his ass out of my head as he talks what they have fed him. The government and heath authorities failures need to be highlighted at every turn. I want to see the daily suicide figures, the daily admissions to mental health units (for those who get in another debacle). Add these to the other stats they hit us with.

wakka12 · 19-02-2021 02:33PM

dalyboy wrote: »

Israel . Giving positive sound bites on mass reopening next month.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2AE08N

France reopening cultural events with 5000 capacity

https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/world-all-news/155690/summer-festivals-will-be-held-for-seated-crowd-of-maximum-5000-in-france/

Bavaria reopening hairdressers next month

https://www.thelocal.de/20210218/explained-how-bavaria-plans-to-reopen-after-shutdown-2021

https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1362749107719319554
And Italy right now
Well it is looking like Ireland really will be last in Europe to reopen. If Italy, one of the most impacted countries on earth, can provide freedoms pictured above and still maintain current downward trajectory of COVID deaths, there is no excuse for Ireland to be so so far behind in it's schedule.

scouserstation · 19-02-2021 02:33PM

Graham wrote: »

Vaccinate people?

Sorry to tell you but the narrative has changed on that one, the vaccine is no longer your passport to freedom

francogarbanzo · 19-02-2021 02:33PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Ah Jesus. No. It's not.

"A curfew is an order specifying a time during which certain regulations apply. Typically it is the time when individuals must stay indoors." - Wikipedia

19-02-2021 02:33PM

pjohnson wrote: »

We need a Dark Knight to rise.

We had a few but they were and are still being actively shot down with the usual ad homs. Words hurt.

retro:electro · 19-02-2021 02:34PM

C__MC wrote: »

Leo denying that lockdown will go on for 9 weeks
If it’s any hope

What did he say?

19-02-2021 02:35PM

JMNolan wrote: »

I'll be grand, don't worry about old JMNolan!

What about anyone else he might spread it too? You know, someone who might not be grand?

But you don't give a **** worry about them either, do you?

No need to answer, I already know the response.

Bigfatmichael · 19-02-2021 02:38PM

C__MC wrote: »

Leo denying that lockdown will go on for 9 weeks
If it’s any hope

I actually like Leo. Martin is an absolute knob

Graham · 19-02-2021 02:38PM

scouserstation wrote: »

Sorry to tell you but the narrative has changed on that one, the vaccine is no longer your passport to freedom

We don't know what the outcome of the vaccinations programs is going to be or if future vaccinations will be necessary. That hasn't changed.

No doubt some won't be able to resist dressing that up in the usual misery-porn to suggest you're never going to leave your house again and your hewman royts are being violated.

19-02-2021 02:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What about anyone else he might spread it too? You know, someone who might not be grand?

But you don't give a **** worry about them either, do you?

No need to answer, I already know the response.

How will he spread it if he doesn't have it?

Presumably, he'll be going to his night out and going home again. If everyone in his home is staying home and has presumably agreed to him going out with his friends, what harm do you see coming of it? It's their risk to take, surely.

Bigfatmichael · 19-02-2021 02:39PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What about anyone else he might spread it too? You know, someone who might not be grand?

But you don't give a **** worry about them either, do you?

No need to answer, I already know the response.

I'm attending a house party as well tonight.

It would be nice to have a drink in a regulated environment like a pub but there all shut or go for a meal and then have pints but sure what can you do.

FlubberJones · 19-02-2021 02:40PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What about anyone else he might spread it too? You know, someone who might not be grand?

But you don't give a **** worry about them either, do you?

No need to answer, I already know the response.

More and more people are feeling like this though, I am at the point where I have done all the right things and still have another lockdown continuation. It all seems pointless and we are being steered by an inept bunch of clowns

I care about myself and my partner, other people are not my concern.

Graham · 19-02-2021 02:40PM

Bigfatmichael wrote: »

but sure what can you do.

complain about restrictions while doing the very thing that's causing them to be extended apparently.

francogarbanzo · 19-02-2021 02:41PM

Graham wrote: »

We don't know what the outcome of the vaccinations programs is going to be or if future vaccinations will be necessary. That hasn't changed.

No doubt some won't be able to resist dressing that up in the usual misery-porn to suggest you're never going to leave your house again and your hewman royts are being violated.

Imagine mocking human rights violations in any other context.

growleaves · 19-02-2021 02:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What about anyone else he might spread it too? You know, someone who might not be grand?

But you don't give a **** worry about them either, do you?

No need to answer, I already know the response.

Do you worry about the people you are harming by lending your support to multi-year severe lockdowns?

Bigfatmichael · 19-02-2021 02:42PM

Graham wrote: »

complain about restrictions while doing the very thing that's causing them to be extended apparently.

Down to 50 a day over the summer where we could of eliminating the virus like New Zealand .

I'm done with living in lockdown Average age of death in Ireland is 83, average age of people dying from Corona is 83.

Need a living with Covid plan not shut up shop

Tork · 19-02-2021 02:44PM

Bigfatmichael wrote: »

Down to 50 a day over the summer where we could of eliminating the virus like New Zealand .

I'm done with living in lockdown

Fair enough but you lose all grounds for whining about this going on and on and on.

Penfailed · 19-02-2021 02:45PM

francogarbanzo wrote: »

"A curfew is an order specifying a time during which certain regulations apply. Typically it is the time when individuals must stay indoors." - Wikipedia

Yeah. That doesn't strengthen the argument. Everyone is free to leave their houses at any time.

JMNolan · 19-02-2021 02:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What about anyone else he might spread it too? You know, someone who might not be grand?

But you don't give a **** worry about them either, do you?

No need to answer, I already know the response.

Very unlikely, so unlikely I don't consider it a significant risk.

francogarbanzo · 19-02-2021 02:45PM

Tork wrote: »

Fair enough but you lose all grounds for whining about this going on and on and on.

It's not going on and on because some people are not following the rules. It's going on and on despite the vast majority of people following them.

Bigfatmichael · 19-02-2021 02:46PM

Tork wrote: »

Fair enough but you lose all grounds for whining about this going on and on and on.

You lose credit for thinking that Ireland with a population of 4,900,000 million should be locked up when the average age of death from Corona is 83, .

750 in hospital, 150 in ICU and vacinnes been rolled but should keep everything shut.

People are suffering big time, education, finances, mental health

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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